Pro-Censorship or Against?

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#51 Shmiity
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Lol what? People are actually pro-censorship? No, I want the truth, the facts, and how things are. Plain and straight. 

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#52 MrPraline
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Against, obviously.
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#53 Rhazakna
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In favor. Your right to free speech ends where my feelings begin.
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#54 KungfuKitten
Member since 2006 • 27389 Posts

Pro-bondage.
Yet anti-censorship.
I'm sof... sofisticketed.

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#55 shadowkiller11
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Freedom of speech paves the way for social progression. So no I'm against censorship in most cases. Only time censorship is really necessary is kid shows.
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#56 Retro_Future
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Against.
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#57 MrGeezer
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Freedom of speech paves the way for social progression. So no I'm against censorship in most cases. Only time censorship is really necessary is kid shows.shadowkiller11
Again, censorship is a necessary consequence of freedom of speech. A world free of censorship is a world in which someone's voice is being silenced. Censorship very often is a way for some party to make a statement, and taking away that ability is to infringe on free speech.
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#58 MrGeezer
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Lol what? People are actually pro-censorship? No, I want the truth, the facts, and how things are. Plain and straight. 

Shmiity
Hypothetical scenario...you hire me to write an article or a report. My assignment is to write an article explaining the truth, the facts, and how things are. I do this, then I also insert a bunch of editorializing about the "facts", and you don't like that because my editorializing is contrary to your views and your agenda. You then "censor" my report. You delete the objectionable material, whittle my report/article down to ONLY the "facts", but that is still censorship. Is the report now containing just the facts? Yes. Is that report also now heavily censored? Yes. Censorship and truth/facts are not in any way mutually exclusive. "Anti-censorship" is not the same as "pro-truth". Sure, SOME people use censorship to promote bull$*** and hide the truth, but censorship is also used to prevent bull$*** from clouding the truth. Censorship is a tool used to control information, but the incentive to control information is strongly held by both those peddling bull$*** AND those peddling the truth.
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#59 Shmiity
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[QUOTE="Shmiity"]

Lol what? People are actually pro-censorship? No, I want the truth, the facts, and how things are. Plain and straight. 

MrGeezer

Hypothetical scenario...you hire me to write an article or a report. My assignment is to write an article explaining the truth, the facts, and how things are. I do this, then I also insert a bunch of editorializing about the "facts", and you don't like that because my editorializing is contrary to your views and your agenda. You then "censor" my report. You delete the objectionable material, whittle my report/article down to ONLY the "facts", but that is still censorship. Is the report now containing just the facts? Yes. Is that report also now heavily censored? Yes. Censorship and truth/facts are not in any way mutually exclusive. "Anti-censorship" is not the same as "pro-truth". Sure, SOME people use censorship to promote bull$*** and hide the truth, but censorship is also used to prevent bull$*** from clouding the truth. Censorship is a tool used to control information, but the incentive to control information is strongly held by both those peddling bull$*** AND those peddling the truth.

I think you may have put way too much thought into my reply to this thread.

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#60 MrGeezer
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Censorship is pointless because words ultimately harm no one the free exchange of ideas is essential for all kinds of progress.quiglythegreat
And your statement is self-contradictory. If the free exchange of ideas is essential for progress, then that means that words have power, and that ABSOLUTELY means that words harm people. We don't even have to look beyond this website to see that. Review embargoes, paying for good reviews, and firing people for negative reviews wouldn't even happen if "words ultimately harm no one". You go straight from saying that words are powerless, and immediately follow that up by talking about how powerful words are.
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#61 Murderstyle75
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I think it depends on what it is. When the first amendment was put into place, I don't think its intentions were for how we use it in modern capitalistic soceity. For one, violent video games and movies are supposed to be very bad however when the media uses it on the 6 O'clock news to boost ratings, its perfectly acceptable. I think there is a time and place for everything but unfortunatly our constitution is easily exploited because its supposed to be our right to post or say anything we want any time we want. Should Trojan vibrator commercials and pharmaceutical commercials for unhealthy people who can't get it up due to their own poor choices be allowed on both network television and basic cable for children to see? I don't think so. Same goes for much of the garbage that is reality television. These are situations that used to only be viewable at night. Things that I would have got my ass beat for watching as a kid is perfectly acceptable for today's youth. It's no wonder kids are so screwed up now.
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#62 tenaka2
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Lol what? People are actually pro-censorship? No, I want the truth, the facts, and how things are. Plain and straight. 

Shmiity

Every society needs a degree of censorship.

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#63 -Sun_Tzu-
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Very much against. One of the few things I take an absolutist view on.
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#64 Necrifer
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Censorship of...?

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#65 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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What do you mean? Pro-censorship of what? 

i'm against censoring violence, swearing and nudity in films, TV and games. But I'm in favour of censoring hate speech in public. 

 

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#66 tocool340
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Another thread bumped from the 6 years ago. What is this, the rise of the zombie threads year?...

Against it. Its been getting ridiculous over passed few years...

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#67 Necrifer
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What is this, the rise of the zombie threads year?...

tocool340

Yes.  Every year.

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#68 tocool340
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[QUOTE="tocool340"]

What is this, the rise of the zombie threads year?...

Necrifer

Yes.  Every year.

I'm aware its happened in the past, but it seems to be happening more often. Like more than once a day compared to perhaps maybe once to 3 times a week in the past...

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#69 deactivated-5b1e62582e305
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100% against. Stifling art and creativity should be a crime.

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#70 N30F3N1X
Member since 2009 • 8923 Posts

I used to be 100% against censorship, however being a man of science and seeing how debates about some popular topics such as greenhouse effect, microwave ovens and nuclear power always have a huge degree of moronic nonsense brought to them I really wish we had the power to permanently silence some people.