Proof that there's no god.

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

That doesn't disprove God. The bible doesn't condenm homosexuals. And I don't think that's what science has determined either.

LJS9502_basic

What about that stuff in Leviticus?

[QUOTE="TINYOWNSYOU"]

I'm pretty sure you're going to hear a lot of "God cannot be blamed for the problems in our world caused by our sins".

LJS9502_basic

And I agree.

[QUOTE="TINYOWNSYOU"]

I'm pretty sure you're going to hear a lot of "God cannot be blamed for the problems in our world caused by our sins".

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Old Testament?

SgtKevali

Isn't that in the Bible?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TINYOWNSYOU"]

I'm pretty sure you're going to hear a lot of "God cannot be blamed for the problems in our world caused by our sins".

DmadFearmonger

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Yes. The OT.

LJS9502_basic

Isn't that in the Bible?

So this statement ("The bible doesn't condenm homosexuals.") is incorrect, right?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

Isn't that in the Bible?

SgtKevali

So this statement ("The bible doesn't condenm homosexuals.") is incorrect, right?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TINYOWNSYOU"]

I'm pretty sure you're going to hear a lot of "God cannot be blamed for the problems in our world caused by our sins".

DmadFearmonger

It's kind of like letting a ride that's breaking down in a sim theme park game keep running. You know people are going to go on it anyways, and it's fun to watch them fly everywhere when the ride breaks.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="TINYOWNSYOU"]

I'm pretty sure you're going to hear a lot of "God cannot be blamed for the problems in our world caused by our sins".

DmadFearmonger

Wouldn't your method means heterosexuality shouldn't be so dominant?LJS9502_basic

I'm going to the nothingness when I die.DmadFearmonger

[QUOTE="GazaAli"][QUOTE="DmadFearmonger"]I do think that actually, I think this whole world is a scientific accident.DmadFearmonger

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Wouldn't your method means heterosexuality shouldn't be so dominant?foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Wouldn't your method means heterosexuality shouldn't be so dominant?LJS9502_basic

▲ OP, you could have just posted a link to Gamespots Off-Topic forums. That's proof enough. ▲

So if its not genetic then it must be a choice? :?

toast_burner

So then you believe it's choice.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Wouldn't your method means heterosexuality shouldn't be so dominant?LJS9502_basic

not nessecerly, considering the amount of heterosexuals, someone who was born today would have a higher chance becoming hetro because of the exposure to people, media, enviroment ect,)

well lets assume we are at the start of mankind. Reproduction would be one of the key factors to actually make the hetero population grow bigger then the homo one. My guess would also be nature and curiosity.

Im pretty sure the female and male predecessors of menn had enough intelligence to experiment with the stick part A into part B mechanics :P

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]So then you believe it's choice.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

not nessecerly, considering the amount of heterosexuals, someone who was born today would have a higher chance becoming hetro because of the exposure to people, media, enviroment ect,)

Half-Way

well lets assume we are at the start of mankind. Reproduction would be one of the key factors to actually make the hetero population grow bigger then the homo one. My guess would also be nature and curiosity.

Im pretty sure the female and male predecessors of menn had enough intelligence to experiment with the stick part A into part B mechanics :P

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So if its not genetic then it must be a choice? :?

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So if its not genetic then it must be a choice? :?

toast_burner

That still doesn't explain the huge gap between orientations.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] He's talking about cultural acceptance which tends to support the idea that it's a choice.

LJS9502_basic

That still doesn't explain the huge gap between orientations.

LJS9502_basic

A culture that accepts homosexuality isprobably (see this word here, not an absolute) more conducive to bringing up homosexual children, because they are able to develop in a way that is conducive to their predispositions.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That still doesn't explain the huge gap between orientations.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Leviticus is the book of Jewish law...LJS9502_basic

Old Testament?

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]I did not specify a particular time period. His idea might have merit were the percentages not so far apart.LJS9502_basic

well lets assume we are at the start of mankind. Reproduction would be one of the key factors to actually make the hetero population grow bigger then the homo one. My guess would also be nature and curiosity.

Im pretty sure the female and male predecessors of menn had enough intelligence to experiment with the stick part A into part B mechanics :P

no not really,

im assuming everyone IS born neutral (since thats what this spesific idea is about) and develops are sexaul prefrence as they go on. Which means that it isnt choice.

That isn't proof of anything, TC.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Half-Way"]

well lets assume we are at the start of mankind. Reproduction would be one of the key factors to actually make the hetero population grow bigger then the homo one. My guess would also be nature and curiosity.

Im pretty sure the female and male predecessors of menn had enough intelligence to experiment with the stick part A into part B mechanics :P

Half-Way

no not really,

im assuming everyone IS born neutral (since thats what this spesific idea is about) and develops are sexaul prefrence as they go on. Which means that it isnt choice.

Sorry to offend reigous folk, but here it is: Religion is homophobic. It even says in the bible that you should not practice homosexuality. However, sexuality is determened during developement. Homosexuals are born with an extra chromosome that causes the "defect" if you will. If god existed then he would have control over such things as he "Created everything". He wouldn't create something that people can't control and then tell us not to use it. That's my logic anyway.

DmadFearmonger

The original post doesn't prove anything, however it does highlight another question that the religious person must answer: why did God (since he created everything) create homosexuality to then only condemn it?

You lost me at "sorry to offend". I think Lady Gaga's in the house.

Long hair is a choice one makes.:roll:LJS9502_basic

Long hair is a choice one makes.:roll:LJS9502_basic

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Then you are making the choice argument. LJS9502_basic

no not really,

im assuming everyone IS born neutral (since thats what this spesific idea is about) and develops are sexaul prefrence as they go on. Which means that it isnt choice.

obviously there is no evidence, and im not saying that's what i believe, but it was simply for the sake of the argument.

I tend not to argue about stuff like this because in order to argue about choice, we have to actually define choice. and that would take like 556 threads about philosophy.

i wasent planing on geting into an argument today, simply because im lazy atm, :P

but this obviously goes way deeper , and its the same as with every other argument.

You lost me at "sorry to offend". I think Lady Gaga's in the house.

roleplayer2004

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Half-Way"]

no not really,

im assuming everyone IS born neutral (since thats what this spesific idea is about) and develops are sexaul prefrence as they go on. Which means that it isnt choice.

Half-Way

obviously there is no evidence, and im not saying that's what i believe, but it was simply for the sake of the argument.

I tend not to argue about stuff like this because in order to argue about choice, we have to actually define choice. and that would take like 556 threads about philosophy.

i wasent planing on geting into an argument today, simply because im lazy atm, :P

but this obviously goes way deeper , and its the same as with every other argument.

Homosexuals are born with an extra chromosome that causes the "defect" if you will. DmadFearmonger

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raiden509

The thing that gets me is, why do they try to convert people that don't believe what they believe?

Hell, more elbow room for you.