Public school uses old fashioned etiquette to treat girls.

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The boys at this school must stand when a girl enters the room, pull the chair out for girls when girls sit, treat girls with respect, give a friendly smile to them and treat them like royalty. In my opinion....i think this is a great method this teacher came up with, if i was a teacher i'd do the same if i could. I live in NYC queens and the way boys/men treat girls here are rough and it's a shame. What do you think about the teachers methods and should all public schools go about this?

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The boys at this school must stand when a girl enters the room, pull the chair out for girls when girls sit, treat girls with respect, give a friendly smile to them and treat them like royalty. In my opinion....i think this is a great method this teacher came up with, if i was a teacher i'd do the same if i could. I live in NYC queens and the way boys/men treat girls here are rough and it's a shame. What do you think about the teachers methods and should all public schools go about this?

LegitGamer3212

That's ridiculous :lol:

They shouldn't get treated specially, they should be treated the same.

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The boys at this school must stand when a girl enters the room, pull the chair out for girls when girls sit, treat girls with respect, give a friendly smile to them and treat them like royalty. In my opinion....i think this is a great method this teacher came up with, if i was a teacher i'd do the same if i could. I live in NYC queens and the way boys/men treat girls here are rough and it's a shame. What do you think about the teachers methods and should all public schools go about this?

LegitGamer3212

And what do the girls have to do - lie supine on demand? :P

I'm all for treating girls with respect but i don't like this.

That's ridiculous :lol:

They shouldn't get treated specially, they should be treated the same.

Brainkiller05

if they are going to treat them old-fashioned style, maybe the girls should be in the lunch room instead.

Why would I have to treat a girl like royalty? This is a terrible way to get around things.Famiking

the same reason why you should treat the elderly with it

So what happens once they leave high school and they don't get the same attention and respect? The teacher is setting them up for disappointment later on in life.

[QUOTE="Famiking"]Why would I have to treat a girl like royalty? This is a terrible way to get around things.LegitGamer3212

the same reason why you should treat the elderly with it

[QUOTE="Famiking"]Why would I have to treat a girl like royalty? This is a terrible way to get around things.LegitGamer3212

the same reason why you should treat the elderly with it

I don't see the point of this. Guys can still act like asses to the girls out of school, and if guys were causing problems in the school, they could just, you know, punish them...

And also guys may get annoyed that they have to cater to girls, and may just make them act worse tpwards girls outside of school.

That would feel like patronizing to me. The guys forced to treat me like royalty in the class but will still treat me like **** outside of that class. They need to be taught how to treat women with respect and treat them equally - not like they're frail royals. If the teacher is implementing this - it should work both ways. Let the girls curtsy and all that stuff to the guys.Sajedene

we don't need it, girls are more emotional, most girls are more sensitive, and more. All boys in public schools should go by this rule unless the girl doesn't act lady-like that'll be a different story.

I'm confused as to whether this empowers or belittles girls.

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]That would feel like patronizing to me. The guys forced to treat me like royalty in the class but will still treat me like **** outside of that class. They need to be taught how to treat women with respect and treat them equally - not like they're frail royals. If the teacher is implementing this - it should work both ways. Let the girls curtsy and all that stuff to the guys.LegitGamer3212

we don't need it, girls are more emotional, most girls are more sensitive, and more. All boys in public schools should go by this rule unless the girl doesn't act lady-like that'll be a different story.

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="Famiking"]Why would I have to treat a girl like royalty? This is a terrible way to get around things.Setsa

the same reason why you should treat the elderly with it

not like that, but they have to go through stuff every month, they're more sensitive, emotional

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

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The boys at this school must stand when a girl enters the room, pull the chair out for girls when girls sit, treat girls with respect, give a friendly smile to them and treat them like royalty. In my opinion....i think this is a great method this teacher came up with, if i was a teacher i'd do the same if i could. I live in NYC queens and the way boys/men treat girls here are rough and it's a shame. What do you think about the teachers methods and should all public schools go about this?

Lockedge

Whats wrong with chivalry?

I think that's awesome. As a society we pretty much throw etiquette out of the window and there's essentially nowhere else anyone can learn about formal etiquette besides some books well hidden at the back of the library cover in dust.

But I don't think it should stop at teaching the proper (or old fashioned) way of treating the ladies, as some had mentioned this could just further perpetuated sexism, which clashes head on with the new age thinking that"both sexes are equal". Still, I think there's much more to etiquette than just being chivalrous to the ladies, althought I would say this alone could make any guy stands out in the dating world

It doesn't need to be a mandatory class, but offering it as an elective could be a good thing for many.

in return the girls better make those boys some damn sammiches:x

Men got castrated down to womens level many, many years ago. Since then they are both on equal terms. If you want men to start treating women with more respect then men should be given the privileges they once had so they have a reason to show respect and honor. It's more like being a slave or a servent otherwise.

Either way, it's not my problem, they can use the guys as draft-stoppers if they want.

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="Sajedene"]That would feel like patronizing to me. The guys forced to treat me like royalty in the class but will still treat me like **** outside of that class. They need to be taught how to treat women with respect and treat them equally - not like they're frail royals. If the teacher is implementing this - it should work both ways. Let the girls curtsy and all that stuff to the guys.entropyecho

we don't need it, girls are more emotional, most girls are more sensitive, and more. All boys in public schools should go by this rule unless the girl doesn't act lady-like that'll be a different story.

Flushing, i mean i can see how a break dancer from brooklyn and ms. jane from texas can have different opinions on this. not saying i'm a break dancer but in general.

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

we don't need it, girls are more emotional, most girls are more sensitive, and more. All boys in public schools should go by this rule unless the girl doesn't act lady-like that'll be a different story.

LegitGamer3212

Flushing, i mean i can see how a break dancer from brooklyn and ms. jane from texas can have different opinions on this. not saying i'm a break dancer but in general.

Off topic, but how is Flushings. I might be going to college there.

I think that's awesome. As a society we pretty much throw etiquette out of the window and there's essentially nowhere else anyone can learn about formal etiquette besides some books well hidden at the back of the library cover in dust.

ariz3260

Does this mean that school will also be forcing all girls to take home ec and removing the option for them to take design tech classes etc. ??? :? this is a step in the wrong direction and it isn't how the world works these days, some women love all the old fashioned stuff but a lot think its an insult.

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]What part of Queens are you from?

Ingenemployee

Flushing, i mean i can see how a break dancer from brooklyn and ms. jane from texas can have different opinions on this. not saying i'm a break dancer but in general.

Off topic, but how is Flushings. I might be going to college there.

it's not bad, diverse, foods from every culture, handball is the big thing here in the spring, summer. Some surrounding parts of flushing to stay away from is jamaica, parts of brooklyn, harlem manhattan, and south bronx

[QUOTE="Ingenemployee"]

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

Flushing, i mean i can see how a break dancer from brooklyn and ms. jane from texas can have different opinions on this. not saying i'm a break dancer but in general.

LegitGamer3212

Off topic, but how is Flushings. I might be going to college there.

it's not bad, diverse, foods from every culture, handball is the big thing here in the spring, summer. Some surrounding parts of flushing to stay away from is jamaica, parts of brooklyn, harlem manhattan, and south bronx

Thanks for the heads up.

[QUOTE="Setsa"][QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

the same reason why you should treat the elderly with it

LegitGamer3212

not like that, but they have to go through stuff every month, they're more sensitive, emotional

[QUOTE="ariz3260"]

I think that's awesome. As a society we pretty much throw etiquette out of the window and there's essentially nowhere else anyone can learn about formal etiquette besides some books well hidden at the back of the library cover in dust.

entropyecho

True, family could and should be the first place to learn about it. But, what if the family one grew up in never even had the luxury of learning such properetiquette and thusunable to show it tothe next generation?

[QUOTE="LegitGamer3212"]

[QUOTE="Setsa"] Because all girls are frail, dependent, and inches from death : /Setsa

not like that, but they have to go through stuff every month, they're more sensitive, emotional

well then we have different ways of thinking, i just think it's a great idea...most of the girls become more feminine while the young boys learn some manners.

That'll do wonders for the girls' self-esteem once they notice the real world doesn't work that way.

I honestly just think that means girls are less superior. They want us to treat girls more because males are more superior and want the girls to feel better. We are all human beings and we should all be treated the same way, not more so than the other. I personally hate this.

True, family could and should be the first place to learn about it. But, what if the family one grew up in never even had the luxury of learning such properetiquette and thusunable to show it tothe next generation?

ariz3260

In that case, society, i.e. "the real world" is the next teacher. You will not last long if you are mysoginistic, chauvanistic or sexist in any workplace or social gathering for that matter.

entropyecho

I find that quite problematic...

1. I was talking about teaching/learning proper etiquette, not learning to be mysoginistic, chauvanistic or sexist

2. The real world is what the people make of it. As a member of any society, not only is it my job to obey the law, it is also my responsibility to make it a better place. Just because the world doesn't agree with my ideal, that doesn't mean I have to lower myself to its standard

3. To a kid growing up in the ghetto, drug dealing/violence/murder is the norm. To hold that as normal and a true reflection of the society in general is highly problematic, and imo is where some of our problem is. Because they grow up thinking its normal and thus, go out and do those things. If it gets repeated by a large enough # of people, this is where we get our next wave of crime.

Edit: have to go now, but will respond once back if anyone have anything to say about this

This is idiotic. How could the teachers not see how this could be abused?

"Treat girls with respect", Right. What makes them better then boys? The girls have to do nothing in return. Absolutely ridiculous in today's world.

if they are going to treat them old-fashioned style, maybe the girls should be in the lunch room instead.

needled24-7

[QUOTE="entropyecho"]

In that case, society, i.e. "the real world" is the next teacher. You will not last long if you are mysoginistic, chauvanistic or sexist in any workplace or social gathering for that matter.

ariz3260

I find that quite problematic...

1. I was talking about teaching/learning proper etiquette, not learning to be mysoginistic, chauvanistic or sexist

2. The real world is what the people make of it. As a member of any society, not only is it my job to obey the law, it is also my responsibility to make it a better place. Just because the world doesn't agree with my ideal, that doesn't mean I have to lower myself to its standard

3. To a kid growing up in the ghetto, drug dealing/violence/murder is the norm. To hold that as normal and a true reflection of the society in general is highly problematic, and imo is where some of our problem is. Because they grow up thinking its normal and thus, go out and do those things. If it gets repeated by a large enough # of people, this is where we get our next wave of crime.

Edit: have to go now, but will respond once back if anyone have anything to say about this

This is so dumb....

I am a gentleman and very much believe in ettiquette but forcing people to do such crap is dumb and defeats the whole purpose.

if they are going to treat them old-fashioned style, maybe the girls should be in the lunch room instead.

needled24-7