pull out of Iraq, yay or nay?

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#51 quiglythegreat

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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="353535355353535"]okay, so it holds 8% of the worlds reserves353535355353535

Go for that. It still doesn't export most of that and simply does not give out much oil in comparison to other countries, and certainly does not constitute eight per cent of all petroleum produced in the world.

the only reasons for that are 1: prior to the invasion, the UN placed sanctions on Iraq 2: the war of cource. If we pull out, it wont export any cuz of a civil war

The point is no one is reliant on that oil and if they were, they would not invade because that would just complicate everything. I can't think of a single instance in history where a country in civil war has been invaded solely to stabilize and ensure the continued exportation of any national resource and I can't imagine Iraq would turn into an instance of this.

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#52 353535355353535

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you cant think of a time when a nation invaded a country for a natural resource? are you failing history?

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Pulling out now shouldn't even be an option.

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#54 quiglythegreat

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you cant think of a time when a nation invaded a country for a natural resource? are you failing history?353535355353535

During civil war? Absolutely not.

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#55 aaaaarrrrggggg

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Sure, we'll pull them out, if there's any left after we POISON them!

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#56 mismajor99

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I can't believe people voted nay....

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#57 ccgod

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I can't believe people voted nay....mismajor99

some of us believe that our bothers in arms did not die in vain

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#58 Silver_Dragon17

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Not yet. Pulling out now is simply stupid. If we do, we let in anybody who wants to bomb us and pretty much kill thousands more people. But those troops need out. I just want them to finish what they started.

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[QUOTE="353535355353535"]you cant think of a time when a nation invaded a country for a natural resource? are you failing history?quiglythegreat

During civil war? Absolutely not.

There was no civil war in Iraq before the invasion....

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#60 ccgod

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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="353535355353535"]you cant think of a time when a nation invaded a country for a natural resource? are you failing history?jointed

During civil war? Absolutely not.

There was no civil war in Iraq before the invasion....

your right it was a dictatorship

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#61 353535355353535

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[QUOTE="353535355353535"]you cant think of a time when a nation invaded a country for a natural resource? are you failing history?quiglythegreat

During civil war? Absolutely not.

really, cuz I can. when Iraq invaded Iran to seize their oil fields, Iran was in a civil war

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#62 Acetylcholine

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nay because we could pull out now.....and get bombed again in 20 years or just finish what we start and not get bombedMaster_Zandor

I agree. It makes sense to complete the job.

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#63 353535355353535

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[QUOTE="Master_Zandor"]nay because we could pull out now.....and get bombed again in 20 years or just finish what we start and not get bombedAcetylcholine

I agree. It makes sense to complete the job.

I dont think we should pull out, but Iraq is JUST like vietnam, except instead of fighting in the jungles, we are fighting in the desert

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#64 Thanatos1337

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[QUOTE="mismajor99"]I can't believe people voted nay....ccgod

some of us believe that our bothers in arms did not die in vain

But you also believe that they should die in vain with our continued presence?

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#65 353535355353535

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[QUOTE="ccgod"]
[QUOTE="mismajor99"]I can't believe people voted nay....Thanatos1337

some of us believe that our bothers in arms did not die in vain

But you also believe that they should die in vain with our continued presence?

if we continue to battle the insurgency until the Iraqi government can get on its feet, the soldiers would not have died in vain

if we let it descend into civil war, then they would have died in vain

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#66 ccgod

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[QUOTE="ccgod"]
[QUOTE="mismajor99"]I can't believe people voted nay....Thanatos1337

some of us believe that our bothers in arms did not die in vain

But you also believe that they should die in vain with our continued presence?

they're not dieing in vain we're trying for free a country and create a better world for them to live in.

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[QUOTE="Acetylcholine"][QUOTE="Master_Zandor"]nay because we could pull out now.....and get bombed again in 20 years or just finish what we start and not get bombed353535355353535

I agree. It makes sense to complete the job.

I dont think we should pull out, but Iraq is JUST like vietnam, except instead of fighting in the jungles, we are fighting in the desert

not really...

You helped south vietnam defend itself against an invading force...but In the Iraq conflict you invaded a country and occupied it. That's two totallydifferent things.

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#68 Thanatos1337

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[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ccgod"]
[QUOTE="mismajor99"]I can't believe people voted nay....ccgod

some of us believe that our bothers in arms did not die in vain

But you also believe that they should die in vain with our continued presence?

they're not dieing in vain we're trying for free a country and create a better world for them to live in.

It's already free, last time I checked there was a democratically elected government in place, so they are "free".

So why are we still there?

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#69 ccgod

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[QUOTE="ccgod"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ccgod"]
[QUOTE="mismajor99"]I can't believe people voted nay....Thanatos1337

some of us believe that our bothers in arms did not die in vain

But you also believe that they should die in vain with our continued presence?

they're not dieing in vain we're trying for free a country and create a better world for them to live in.

It's already free, last time I checked there was a democratically elected government in place, so they are "free".

So why are we still there?

because people are still trying to stop it

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#70 Thanatos1337

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[QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ccgod"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ccgod"]
[QUOTE="mismajor99"]I can't believe people voted nay....ccgod

some of us believe that our bothers in arms did not die in vain

But you also believe that they should die in vain with our continued presence?

they're not dieing in vain we're trying for free a country and create a better world for them to live in.

It's already free, last time I checked there was a democratically elected government in place, so they are "free".

So why are we still there?

because people are still trying to stop it

The groups that are attacking civilians out of anger of the U.S.'s continued occupation?
Iraq has a military stong enough to deal with this problem on it's own.

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#71 ccgod

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[QUOTE="ccgod"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ccgod"][QUOTE="Thanatos1337"][QUOTE="ccgod"]
[QUOTE="mismajor99"]I can't believe people voted nay....Thanatos1337

some of us believe that our bothers in arms did not die in vain

But you also believe that they should die in vain with our continued presence?

they're not dieing in vain we're trying for free a country and create a better world for them to live in.

It's already free, last time I checked there was a democratically elected government in place, so they are "free".

So why are we still there?

because people are still trying to stop it

The groups that are attacking civilians out of anger of the U.S.'s continued occupation?
Iraq has a military stong enough to deal with this problem on it's own.

lol the i wouldn't trust the Iraq military to do nething they're barly able to do nething, and they are no were near strong enough to handle the protection of their country

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#72 quiglythegreat

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[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="353535355353535"]you cant think of a time when a nation invaded a country for a natural resource? are you failing history?353535355353535

During civil war? Absolutely not.

really, cuz I can. when Iraq invaded Iran to seize their oil fields, Iran was in a civil war

Well then you would be the one with a weak grasp on history, not me. They just kind of hated each other at that point, the two governments. Iran was not at civil war anyway.

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#73 xXBuffJeffXx

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[QUOTE="353535355353535"][QUOTE="Acetylcholine"][QUOTE="Master_Zandor"]nay because we could pull out now.....and get bombed again in 20 years or just finish what we start and not get bombedjointed

I agree. It makes sense to complete the job.

I dont think we should pull out, but Iraq is JUST like vietnam, except instead of fighting in the jungles, we are fighting in the desert

not really...

You helped south vietnam defend itself against an invading force...but In the Iraq conflict you invaded a country and occupied it. That's two totallydifferent things.

Vietnam was an insurrection supported by invasion, very similar to the insurgents being supported by outside forces today.

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