Punk. Dead or Alive?

rumors of his death that you heard at a fortune teller have been greatly exaggerated. this photo was taken yesterday

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Everything except the generic punk aesthetic is dead. That was hijacked by various sub-cultures.

Oddly, although I dig the hell out of punk music, I can't say that I've ever really gotten into particular bands that much.

Oddly, although I dig the hell out of punk music, I can't say that I've ever really gotten into particular bands that much.

worlock77

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Oddly, although I dig the hell out of punk music, I can't say that I've ever really gotten into particular bands that much.

mattykovax

Yeah, as a kid I was always more of a metalhead, so I didn't really grow up with it. I only really because aware of punk in my adults years. It's like I can listen to various things, compilations, radio stations, etc and get my fill of it for awhile. Probably the closest I've come to getting into an individual band is Neurosis, who were barely punk on their second album and not at all after that (and I'm not hugly into their early stuff anyway).

Punk is far from dead. There are still great bands like Sick of It All and The Casualties around.

There is actually a good sized punk scene here in Michigan too. Quite a few local punk bands.

Punk is far from dead. There are still great bands like Sick of It All and The Casualties around.

There is actually a good sized punk scene here in Michigan too. Quite a few local punk bands.

LostProphetFLCL

Old school punk is mostly dead. Pop punk garbage like Green Day is still around though.

Punk is far from dead. There are still great bands like Sick of It All and The Casualties around.

There is actually a good sized punk scene here in Michigan too. Quite a few local punk bands.

LostProphetFLCL

Old school punk is mostly dead. Pop punk garbage like Green Day is still around though.

Pirate700

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Old school punk is mostly dead. Pop punk garbage like Green Day is still around though.

LJS9502_basic

Old school punk is mostly dead. Pop punk garbage like Green Day is still around though.

Pirate700

What's wrong with green day? They have made brilliant songs like American idiot.

Teddy boys

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Old school punk is mostly dead. Pop punk garbage like Green Day is still around though.

pspdseagle

What's wrong with green day? They have made brilliant songs like American idiot.

Fvcked Up (replace the "v" with a "u", obviously) released some good material in 2011.

Very much dead.

punk, dead? have you ever heard of a little band called Lincoln Park??WolfattheDoor34

Actual "punk" died years ago, not they've just wrapped up everything a nice label that just says alternative....was always more of a ska fan myself but I still listen to the dead Kennedy's every now and thenLessThanMike

punk, dead? have you ever heard of a little band called Lincoln Park??WolfattheDoor34

[QUOTE="WolfattheDoor34"]punk, dead? have you ever heard of a little band called Lincoln Park??LJS9502_basic

punk, dead? have you ever heard of a little band called Lincoln Park??WolfattheDoor34

lol?

there's also Daft PunkWolfattheDoor34

there's also Daft PunkWolfattheDoor34

When I was a kid, punk was just the sex pistols doing everything society riled against and sang some jolly rude words. Then I heard the likes of black flag, 7 seconds, the stupids, etc and heard it was very much still going, albeit with a different asthetic.

Difficult to pin down what punk is - in the UK the Pistols were defined more by imagery and shock, whereas their north london counterparts (e.g the clash) were politicised. Disenfranchised youth led to an association to the emergence of UK dub at the time. Traditional hardore, oi or older school punk generes are just out of the limelight at present, no doubt to return in a new outfit sometime in the future. The likes of the prodigy could be considered as punk at points during there history; grunge had a distinct DIY sound which could be considered a punk motif. I guess without trying to sound like some kind of anus, the 'spirit of punk' is alive depending on where you look for it

*ramble over*

[QUOTE="LessThanMike"]Actual "punk" died years ago, not they've just wrapped up everything a nice label that just says alternative....was always more of a ska fan myself but I still listen to the dead Kennedy's every now and thenmattykovax

punk, dead? have you ever heard of a little band called Lincoln Park??WolfattheDoor34

Ska and punk are quite familiar friends I guess

Actually you've got me digging through some old tunes now, therefore in honour of this thread:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=PCr8V5wAroA

(I've no idea how to embed stuff, so it's the slits covering heard it through the grapevine) :)

 

When I was a kid, punk was just the sex pistols doing everything society riled against and sang some jolly rude words. Then I heard the likes of black flag, 7 seconds, the stupids, etc and heard it was very much still going, albeit with a different asthetic.

 

Difficult to pin down what punk is - in the UK the Pistols were defined more by imagery and shock, whereas their north london counterparts (e.g the clash) were politicised. Disenfranchised youth led to an association to the emergence of UK dub at the time. Traditional hardore, oi or older school punk generes are just out of the limelight at present, no doubt to return in a new outfit sometime in the future. The likes of the prodigy could be considered as punk at points during there history; grunge had a distinct DIY sound which could be considered a punk motif. I guess without trying to sound like some kind of anus, the 'spirit of punk' is alive depending on where you look for it

 

*ramble over*

poptart

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When I was a kid, punk was just the sex pistols doing everything society riled against and sang some jolly rude words. Then I heard the likes of black flag, 7 seconds, the stupids, etc and heard it was very much still going, albeit with a different asthetic.

 

Difficult to pin down what punk is - in the UK the Pistols were defined more by imagery and shock, whereas their north london counterparts (e.g the clash) were politicised. Disenfranchised youth led to an association to the emergence of UK dub at the time. Traditional hardore, oi or older school punk generes are just out of the limelight at present, no doubt to return in a new outfit sometime in the future. The likes of the prodigy could be considered as punk at points during there history; grunge had a distinct DIY sound which could be considered a punk motif. I guess without trying to sound like some kind of anus, the 'spirit of punk' is alive depending on where you look for it

 

*ramble over*

mattykovax

Well I would like to continue, however I do need to pop out for a couple of hours :)

Its not dead, it simply evolved into hippie train hopping hobos, big Punk scene here, Black Flag is actually gonna play but the Metal scene here isn't that great, so as a Metalhead sometimes Punk is all we have at times but we get some good bands comin.

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When I was a kid, punk was just the sex pistols doing everything society riled against and sang some jolly rude words. Then I heard the likes of black flag, 7 seconds, the stupids, etc and heard it was very much still going, albeit with a different asthetic.

 

Difficult to pin down what punk is - in the UK the Pistols were defined more by imagery and shock, whereas their north london counterparts (e.g the clash) were politicised. Disenfranchised youth led to an association to the emergence of UK dub at the time. Traditional hardore, oi or older school punk generes are just out of the limelight at present, no doubt to return in a new outfit sometime in the future. The likes of the prodigy could be considered as punk at points during there history; grunge had a distinct DIY sound which could be considered a punk motif. I guess without trying to sound like some kind of anus, the 'spirit of punk' is alive depending on where you look for it

 

*ramble over*

poptart

Well I would like to continue, however I do need to pop out for a couple of hours :)

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[QUOTE="mattykovax"] This is actually the type of discussion I was trying to foster...+1mattykovax

Well I would like to continue, however I do need to pop out for a couple of hours :)

Certainly not MattyK... I'll be knocking around for a while yet...

It died with Joey RamoneBossPerson

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]It died with Joey RamoneMurderstyle75

Fvcked Up (replace the "v" with a "u", obviously) released some good material in 2011.

dominer

Punk is far from dead. There are still great bands like Sick of It All and The Casualties around.

There is actually a good sized punk scene here in Michigan too. Quite a few local punk bands.

LostProphetFLCL

Are you going to the Orion Festival this weekend? Flag is going to be there on Saturday.

But the scene was already dead, the racists and metal hardcore crowd destroyed a community and disenfranchised the disenfranchised, amd the music devolved into pop-punk and hardcore metal stormfront shit.mattykovax

Most of the crossover thrash bands I've heard have been fairly left leaning: the aformentioned DRI ("Gun Control"), Carnivore("Sex and Violence"), Nuclear Assault ("Critical Mass")... none of those bands could be considered skinhead-friendly.

It's not like the punk scene is totally innocent, however: it gave us FSU, thugs who strongarm small local clubs and venues who were trying to help the very bands you seem to be championing. A very good friend of mine who promotes a wide range of bands refuses to work with the hardcore and punk scene after a couple of FSU shitheads put him in the hospital with a broken orbital bone and smashed his camera.

As to the original question: there are very few "pure" genres left. Everything has been absorbed by one genre or another. Punk got eaten by pop, reggae and metal. I'll take Sublime, Municipal Waste and Gama Bomb over the Dead Kennedys or Sex Pistols any day.

[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Punk is far from dead. There are still great bands like Sick of It All and The Casualties around.

There is actually a good sized punk scene here in Michigan too. Quite a few local punk bands.

Branmuffin316

Are you going to the Orion Festival this weekend? Flag is going to be there on Saturday.

Unfortunately no. Tickets were too damn expensive....

[QUOTE="dominer"]

Fvcked Up (replace the "v" with a "u", obviously) released some good material in 2011.

cain006

Redundant, I know. But some people might get confused and miss out on a solid band.

I'm doin for the people.

all punk really consists of now is the various sub-genres. so i mean, 80s/90s punk really isn't around, but punk sub genres are very much alive (emo, pop punk, screamo, hardcore, folk punk, etc)

Crappy punk like Greenday, Blink 182 and all that stuff is dead. 

here's your answer.

**** you.

also, i hate the queen.