Putin "wins" Russia's Presidential Election despite calls of fraud

Link:

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/europe/2012/03/201234174822513879.html

"Prime Minister Vladimir Putin led the pack in the first report of results announced by the Russian Central
Electoral Commission seconds after polls closed in the country's presidential election.

He appeared before a crowd of around 100,000 supporters at a square near the Kremlin on Sunday evening to celebrate his victory.

Results from polling stations in the Far East on Sunday gave Putin a comfortable lead over his closest rivals.

"61.81 per cent is for candidate Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin," Vladimir Churov, chairperson of the electoral body, announced.

Exit polls showed that Putin will win with a bigmajority. Putin won 58.3 per cent of the vote according to an exit poll from the state-controlled VTsIOM research group, and 59.3 per cent in a survey by the Public Opinion Foundation (FOM), effectively ruling out a second round of voting."

What do you think?

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That's BS, the poll was rigged. No way Putin could've won another election. There were protests in Moscow because of him after the Arab Spring. Xx_Socrates_xX

He still *actually* won his second term.Andrew_Xavier

That's BS, the poll was rigged. No way Putin could've won another election. There were protests in Moscow because of him after the Arab Spring. Xx_Socrates_xX

the results were pretty much in line with opinion polls before the election.

Tons of reports validating election fraud and violations. This should be fun. HoolaHoopMan

Color me shocked!

Color me shocked!

airshocker

All hail the democraticlly elected master, PUTIN!

the elections were fairer than it was ever in america, america has a 2 party system where parties need to win in a whole state in the presidental elections, communist got 17%, national liberals got 7%, social democrats 3% and the owner of the new jersey jets got 7% Ron Paul has higher chance to win in russia than in america.HFkami

the elections were fairer than it was ever in america, america has a 2 party system where parties need to win in a whole state in the presidental elections, communist got 17%, national liberals got 7%, social democrats 3% and the owner of the new jersey jets got 7% Ron Paul has higher chance to win in russia than in america.HFkami

Spoken like somebody who doesn't underatdn the presidential election system.

Bravo, sir. Bravo.

There was no Stalin in this election. I heard people were Russian all over the place to Putin their votes.

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There was no Stalin in this election. I heard people were Russian all over the place to Putin their votes.WasntAvailable

Do you have anymore Russian puns you'd like to Chekhov the list?

[QUOTE="Xx_Socrates_xX"]That's BS, the poll was rigged. No way Putin could've won another election. There were protests in Moscow because of him after the Arab Spring. Andrew_Xavier

[QUOTE="HFkami"]the elections were fairer than it was ever in america, america has a 2 party system where parties need to win in a whole state in the presidental elections, communist got 17%, national liberals got 7%, social democrats 3% and the owner of the new jersey jets got 7% Ron Paul has higher chance to win in russia than in america.LJS9502_basic

Don't critique him or you will be mysteriously assasinated. Hell it wont even be mysterious, Putin doesnt bother with that cloak and dagger stuff.Open up and have some polonium.

[QUOTE="WasntAvailable"]There was no Stalin in this election. I heard people were Russian all over the place to Putin their votes.Just-Breathe

Do you have anymore Russian puns you'd like to Chekhov the list?

Even though this is no doubt a mockery of democracy I can't say I'm disappointed. Putin's cult of personality is pretty entertaining.Ace6301

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="HFkami"]the elections were fairer than it was ever in america, america has a 2 party system where parties need to win in a whole state in the presidental elections, communist got 17%, national liberals got 7%, social democrats 3% and the owner of the new jersey jets got 7% Ron Paul has higher chance to win in russia than in america.HFkami

Vladimir Putin, Action Man

I'm glad he won.

All hail king obama long live the king... oh wait wrong thread.

Surveys said he was going to win, ext polls give numbers that are pretty damn similar to the official results, but I'm still gonna say it was all a massive fraud because my TV set said I shouldn't like the guy.

Just completely badass

Surveys said he was going to win, ext polls give numbers that are pretty damn similar to the official results, but I'm still gonna say it was all a massive fraud because my TV set said I shouldn't like the guy.

LordQuorthon

but there wouldn't be massive reports of fraud from Russian organizations, not American or UN or NATO, if there wasn't something up.

sherman-tank1

Actually, that's not the case. Local organizations have been known to scream BAD GUY IS IN OUR BALLOTS, STEALING OUR ELECTCHUNS in other countries because they expect those screams to lead to riots that could debilitate the reelected government. It happened and was successful in Ukraine, and it happened but failed in Nicaragua, Mexico and Venezuela.

Truth of the matter is that, when it comes to relatively modern and civilized elections (keyword being RELATIVELY, meaning that it doesn't even have to be the best election system ever, just barely mediocre should be enough), you can't really steal millions and millions of votes. You can win a local thing here and there, like the Mayor of a small town, and you can even do some weird stuff when the national election is abnormally close (less than 0.5% and whatnot) but you can't just steal millions and millions of votes. It just doesn't happen anywhere in the Western world except maybe Haiti. Even if Putin's party cheated here and there (tiny rural towns tend to be hard to control when it comes to stuff like that), it made little difference, because he was still going to win by a landslide.

I love how some people call out Russia on election fraud but ignore election fraud here and label those who speak out against it as conspiracy theorists.Dy_WarriorsXoXo

[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]

but there wouldn't be massive reports of fraud from Russian organizations, not American or UN or NATO, if there wasn't something up.

LordQuorthon

Actually, that's not the case. Local organizations have been known to scream BAD GUY IS IN OUR BALLOTS, STEALING OUR ELECTCHUNS in other countries because they expect those screams to lead to riots that could debilitate the reelected government. It happened and was successful in Ukraine, and it happened but failed in Nicaragua, Mexico and Venezuela.

Truth of the matter is that, when it comes to relatively modern and civilized elections (keyword being RELATIVELY, meaning that it doesn't even have to be the best election system ever, just barely mediocre should be enough), you can't really steal millions and millions of votes. You can win a local thing here and there, like the Mayor of a small town, and you can even do some weird stuff when the national election is abnormally close (less than 0.5% and whatnot) but you can't just steal millions and millions of votes. It just doesn't happen anywhere in the Western world except maybe Haiti. Even if Putin's party cheated here and there (tiny rural towns tend to be hard to control when it comes to stuff like that), it made little difference, because he was still going to win by a landslide.

Of course he still would of won without fraud, but not by this much.

sherman-tank1

That's the kind of idea that is fundamentally useless when it's not accompanied by a proper -and preferably exhaustive- quantitative analysis. And, trust me on this one, those Russian organizations you mentioned will not provide anything remotely close to that.

Putin's main competition was the Communist party candidate...

I know Putin's a corrupt thug, and I know OT has lots of resident commies that will say "give communism a second chance! :cry:"....but seriously....

Putin's main competition was the Communist party candidate...

I know Putin's a corrupt thug, and I know OT has lots of resident commies that will say "give communism a second chance! :cry:"....but seriously....

Storm_Marine

I still wonder if a resurgent Sovet Union would be weaker or stronger than this current form.

Putin's main competition was the Communist party candidate...

I know Putin's a corrupt thug, and I know OT has lots of resident commies that will say "give communism a second chance! :cry:"....but seriously....

Storm_Marine

So the crown for "most badass president in the world" is safe, I assume.

Vladimir Putin, Action Man

I'm glad he won.

Baranga

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Putin's main competition was the Communist party candidate...

I know Putin's a corrupt thug, and I know OT has lots of resident commies that will say "give communism a second chance! :cry:"....but seriously....

DroidPhysX

Yes. Problem? Politics has always been about minimizing the damage.

So the crown for "most badass president in the world" is safe, I assume.

Pierst179

Lets just say.... that if Putin and a dozen or so fellow heads of state were locked in a room with one gun sitting on a table in the middle. My bets would be on Putin being the last man standing.

You do have to admire Russia.