Actually, I would say your teacher would be closer to the truth. If I was in your class, I would rip apart what you said to shreds. Well mostly shreds, maybe. Don't regurgitate what Bush said.
first of all, bush wasn't the only one who thought there were WMD's, there were others (like his military advisors for exampple). secondly, saddam told the US government (in almost a taunting sort of way, like he was bragging) that he had WMD's and that he threatened to use them against us. I would consider this a threat to national security as well as a perfectly good reason for going into iraq.
another thing, he was killing many of his own people. many of those people were people who spoke out against the government (like activists and political oponents). it was almost a genocide in iraq.
btw, i meant to say terrorists, not just taliban.
Neo-ganon
Prove all this with links, and I'll congratulate you.
I did something similar when mine was complaining about capitalism and how business are going from 420 mil to 380 mil and they are complaining about it and how she thinks that its stupid. I swear she is a communist or at least a hardcore socialist >_____>
good job on that :) i've done that also to my computer teacher. it was a basic type of computer class. we learn about word and office things. one chapter was on computer hardware. in the back of the room were old computers that other classes used for coding and taking apart. we open the computer up and saids something along the lines of see that slot right there it is the most up to date video card slot (it was a AGP slot) then i said no, PCI- express x16 is.... she said o well i'll have to look into that. at the end of the class she says nope i don't see anything about PCI express in this chapter. Now the new PCI slot is PCI express 2.0.... sadly this is a college class so idk why we have a book that is about like 5 years old.
I did something similar when mine was complaining about capitalism and how business are going from 420 mil to 380 mil and they are complaining about it and how she thinks that its stupid. I swear she is a communist or at least a hardcore socialist >_____>freek666
Complete capitalism is as flawed as complete communism/socialism.. Luckily places like the United States have a mix, a capitalism with some socialist programs and regulations that are a must to have to keep our country stable.
I love this new trend of teachers changing the history they teach to meet their political views. I had a teacher in my environmental science class that taught nothing of the subject and just bashed republicans and bush all day, every class. :roll:Pirate700
Sounds like my math teacher from 5th-8th grade, left-wing ranting with some math mixed in.
we were talking about the iraq war and she started saying the only reason we were in iraq was for the iraqi oil. she left out the other reasons. I pointed out that we went in there to take out saddam, find his wmds (because he was practically bragging to us that he had nukes and he threatened to use these weapons against us), and stop the taliban from killing innocent bystanders. she responded with a "umm... yeah.. uhh... oh dear... i... i lost my train of thought... ill get back to you on that... umm yeah..." I mumble "...yeah, i didnt think so..." causing the guy sitting next to me to laugh. it was pretty funny. im going to enjoy my class.
Ha, nice. But you have to admit. Part of the reason is for their oil, dude. Considering they have oil and... you know, we don't? Off-topic, but once, I wrote down the "War has Changed" speech by Old Snake at the beginning of MGS4 and turned it in for an extra credit thing in English... I had to say this was about war in the future, though, because much of it didn't apply today. I got full credit.
Ha, nice. But you have to admit. Part of the reason is for their oil, dude. Considering they have oil and... you know, we don't? Off-topic, but once, I wrote down the "War has Changed" speech by Old Snake at the beginning of MGS4 and turned it in for an extra credit thing in English... I had to say this was about war in the future, though, because much of it didn't apply today. I got full credit.GodofBigMacs
Its not just for oil its for imperialism.. We are putting puppets into government over there that are easily manipulated by the United States.. While at the same time the contractors that are ripping of the American people with overcharging for inadaquate services are also permantely rooting their companies into the infastructure of Iraq... I hope this is not the truth of it, but it appears to be just that.. So expect in a few years or a decade to see a overthrowing of the government.. Just like with Iran.. The United States and Great britain are directly responsibile to Iran's current government and hatred towards the United States.. We overthrew the democratically elected president of Iran in 1953, and installed the brutal and corrupt dictator, The Shah into power.. Its because we saw him as a "weak" president that would lose control to the communists.. This war is just that, the imperialist excuse under pretexts of claimed WMD's and a war against islamic fundamentalism.. Much like the cold war policies.
[QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"]Ha, nice. But you have to admit. Part of the reason is for their oil, dude. Considering they have oil and... you know, we don't? Off-topic, but once, I wrote down the "War has Changed" speech by Old Snake at the beginning of MGS4 and turned it in for an extra credit thing in English... I had to say this was about war in the future, though, because much of it didn't apply today. I got full credit.sSubZerOo
Its not just for oil its for imperialism.. We are putting puppets into government over there that are easily manipulated by the United States.. While at the same time the contractors that are ripping of the American people with overcharging for inadaquate services are also permantely rooting their companies into the infastructure of Iraq... I hope this is not the truth of it, but it appears to be just that.. So expect in a few years or a decade to see a overthrowing of the government.. Just like with Iran.. The United States and Great britain are directly responsibile to Iran's current government and hatred towards the United States.. We overthrew the democratically elected president of Iran in 1953, and installed the brutal and corrupt dictator, The Shah into power.. Its because we saw him as a "weak" president that would lose control to the communists.. This war is just that, the imperialist excuse under pretexts of claimed WMD's and a war against islamic fundamentalism.. Much like the cold war policies. And may I have sources to any of your claims?
[QUOTE="jointed"]So you basically said EXACTLY what the Bush administration had been saying for the last 6 years? Wow, yeah...you really "pwned" her.Jandurin
surely you aren't implying that the Bush administration, that is the government (the MAN), would lie to us? :( Not necessarily. I just fail to see why a teacher would make such a claim and then fail to respond when she's presented with the official story as if she's never heard about it.
...you're wrong though. There were no WMDs, and the Taliban was in Afghanistan. If the US was there to just take out Saddam, they would've been gone by now, since it kinda happened 3 years ago:|
No offense, but you didn't pwn your teacher at all. In fact, you're almost entirely incorrect. The Taliban had nothing to do with Iraq at all, Saddam didn't brag that he had WMDs and never threatened to use them against us, and the one and exclusive reason the US and UK governments gave for the invasion was to find his WMDs, which he never had.
My history teacher genuinely did fail, unlike the TC's. We always thought she was a bad teacher, but then one day (teaching a senior class) she said Fidel Castro was dead. This was years ago, by the way, before he became ill and conspiracy theories regarding his death were cropping about. We told her he wasn't dead, and she argued with us until we made her google it, right there in the class, and even then she wouldn't admit defeat despite not being able to find a single source discussing his death.
I think some vague connections were mentioned before the war in Iraq was initiated. At least here in Norway, I heard on the news that Saddam had connections with Taliban
jehuty12
About the only connection is that they are both in the middle east and both Muslim.
That's not what was told in the media at the time, I'm sure Americans were fed with the same bs
This thread is teeming with failure juice. Although I agree with the TC to an extent, he didn't get across his point or present his facts in an accurate way whatsoever.
first of all, bush wasn't the only one who thought there were WMD's, there were others (like his military advisors for exampple). secondly, saddam told the US government (in almost a taunting sort of way, like he was bragging) that he had WMD's and that he threatened to use them against us. I would consider this a threat to national security as well as a perfectly good reason for going into iraq.
another thing, he was killing many of his own people. many of those people were people who spoke out against the government (like activists and political oponents). it was almost a genocide in iraq.
[QUOTE="freek666"]I did something similar when mine was complaining about capitalism and how business are going from 420 mil to 380 mil and they are complaining about it and how she thinks that its stupid. I swear she is a communist or at least a hardcore socialist >_____>sSubZerOo
Complete capitalism is as flawed as complete communism/socialism.. Luckily places like the United States have a mix, a capitalism with some socialist programs and regulations that are a must to have to keep our country stable.I think thats the same as in most Scandinavian countries like Sweden. Still, just the way she was talking about it annoyed me.
[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="GodofBigMacs"]Ha, nice. But you have to admit. Part of the reason is for their oil, dude. Considering they have oil and... you know, we don't? Off-topic, but once, I wrote down the "War has Changed" speech by Old Snake at the beginning of MGS4 and turned it in for an extra credit thing in English... I had to say this was about war in the future, though, because much of it didn't apply today. I got full credit.biocunsumer
Its not just for oil its for imperialism.. We are putting puppets into government over there that are easily manipulated by the United States.. While at the same time the contractors that are ripping of the American people with overcharging for inadaquate services are also permantely rooting their companies into the infastructure of Iraq... I hope this is not the truth of it, but it appears to be just that.. So expect in a few years or a decade to see a overthrowing of the government.. Just like with Iran.. The United States and Great britain are directly responsibile to Iran's current government and hatred towards the United States.. We overthrew the democratically elected president of Iran in 1953, and installed the brutal and corrupt dictator, The Shah into power.. Its because we saw him as a "weak" president that would lose control to the communists.. This war is just that, the imperialist excuse under pretexts of claimed WMD's and a war against islamic fundamentalism.. Much like the cold war policies. And may I have sources to any of your claims? Read a history book on the middle east from 1850 to 1970s.. What the United States did was quite simlar to what they were doing.. The west have been manipulating the Middle East for about two centuries now.. Make no mistake the Middle East to the west has always been about poltiical stability to exploit the economics.. It was like that for the Ottoman Empire, It was like that for Iran/Persia.. When they could not directly control it, they either put into power a puppet government/leader or made the nation extremely dependent on the western powers either through military or finances. In the end I have seen no big changes in the United States policy or western policy over there.. They do not care for the people in the region what so ever.. And the rooting of foriegn businesses into infastructure is EXACTLY what forced the Ottoman Empire into bankruptcy in the late 1800s, controling the economy, can controlt he development of the nation.. Its just another form of control placed upon them.. And I am quite sure I don't need a claim for the last one, its relatively common knownledge that Mosadaq (the democratically elected president) was overthrown in 1953 by CIA and MI6. Hell one of the main reasons why they felt they should do it is because he kicked out the British Oil Company that controled 100% of Iran's oil supply..
Log in to comment