Question! Dark Knight Rises Ending..... Spoilers!!!!!!!

Nolan cheated in the editing when he showed Batman as if he was in the ship the whole time. BossPerson

WHAT! You don't say? A director used editing to trick the audience?! What a shameful thing that has never, ever, ever been done before.

Was anyone else a bit put off by how Bane was reduced to little more than a pawn? Not to mention that his death (presumed) was not that interesting? I mean, I thought he was one of the most badass villains in recent memory, almost matching Heath Ledger's Joker, and that's what they do to him?

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That was probably done on purpose because Bane was trained by Ra's Al Ghul. Perhaps during the years of training, he picked up Ra's Al Ghul's accent.

BluRayHiDef

Like other things in the film, that's up for interpretation. It was obviously some type of trauma (bruises, lacerations, severe facial deformity, etc). However, it wasn't the injuries he sustained from the beating that required him to wear the mask, but the bootleg surgery he underwent at the hands of the prison's "doctor". That "doctor" did something that made things worse and induced a chronic, incurable pain that requires him to have a constant supply of painkillers (analgesic).

Was anyone else a bit put off by how Bane was reduced to little more than a pawn? Not to mention that his death (presumed) was not that interesting? I mean, I thought he was one of the most badass villains in recent memory, almost matching Heath Ledger's Joker, and that's what they do to him?

Tokugawa77

Was anyone else a bit put off by how Bane was reduced to little more than a pawn? Not to mention that his death (presumed) was not that interesting? I mean, I thought he was one of the most badass villains in recent memory, almost matching Heath Ledger's Joker, and that's what they do to him?

Tokugawa77

Was anyone else a bit put off by how Bane was reduced to little more than a pawn? Not to mention that his death (presumed) was not that interesting? I mean, I thought he was one of the most badass villains in recent memory, almost matching Heath Ledger's Joker, and that's what they do to him?

Tokugawa77

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Was anyone else a bit put off by how Bane was reduced to little more than a pawn? Not to mention that his death (presumed) was not that interesting? I mean, I thought he was one of the most badass villains in recent memory, almost matching Heath Ledger's Joker, and that's what they do to him?

DeadMan1290

Was I the only one that thought Talia's death was hilarious? It was the most unintentional hilarious moment in the movie for me. But anyway, I loved this movie!

djshowstopper87

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Was anyone else a bit put off by how Bane was reduced to little more than a pawn? Not to mention that his death (presumed) was not that interesting? I mean, I thought he was one of the most badass villains in recent memory, almost matching Heath Ledger's Joker, and that's what they do to him?

LJS9502_basic

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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"] Yeah, I found his death pretty cheap for a guy who handled Batman so easily. But, his death was never confirmed in the movie.... Though we're all pretty sure he died.DeadMan1290

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[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"] Yeah, I found his death pretty cheap for a guy who handled Batman so easily. But, his death was never confirmed in the movie.... Though we're all pretty sure he died.DeadMan1290

No it was a coincidence.Truf89

[QUOTE="Truf89"]No it was a coincidence.horgen123

[QUOTE="DeadMan1290"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Uh why was it cheap? He was going to kill Batman with nothing so spectacular.:?

LJS9502_basic

I get what you're saying; I too much prefer the (dare I say) realistic deaths that just happen, no buildup, no dramatic crap, but in this instance it was just over way too quickly. They had moved on to the next scene before you even processed what just happened.

What do you guys think of the final fight between Batman and Bane? Do you think Batman defeated him a bit too easily, even when you disregard the fact that he targeted Bane's mask? It seems as though Batman was stronger than he was in their first fight (not as strong as Bane but strong enough to hold his own against him). Also, did anyone find it funny when Bane began snarling and going crazy after Batman damaged his mask? Why was Bane as strong as he was; despite the lack of Venom in the film, he was strong enough to punch a hole into a cement column. Finally, what was the source of the gas channelling through Bane's mask; there were no gas canistors.BluRayHiDef

[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="Truf89"]No it was a coincidence.LJS9502_basic

What do you guys think of the final fight between Batman and Bane? Do you think Batman defeated him a bit too easily, even when you disregard the fact that he targeted Bane's mask? It seems as though Batman was stronger than he was in their first fight (not as strong as Bane but strong enough to hold his own against him). Also, did anyone find it funny when Bane began snarling and going crazy after Batman damaged his mask? Why was Bane as strong as he was; despite the lack of Venom in the film, he was strong enough to punch a hole into a cement column. Finally, what was the source of the gas channelling through Bane's mask; there were no gas canistors.BluRayHiDef

I think a major theme was strength through determination and willpower rather than fighting ability. Remember when Lucius showed that footage of Bane wrecking the sh*t out of that security checkpoint and said that he fought so well because he was just so determined and beleived in what he was fighting for? I think that batman's time in the prison essentially gave him Bane's source of power. Just my theory

No I don't think it was an easy fight. The movie was rather lengthy.....it would have been silly to increase the fight time.LJS9502_basic

Yea, overlong fights tend to be annoying. Anyway, when Bane's mask was damaged and he started to go apesh*t, that pretty much made the whole movie. Awsome sequence.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]No I don't think it was an easy fight. The movie was rather lengthy.....it would have been silly to increase the fight time.Tokugawa77

Yea, overlong fights tend to be annoying. Anyway, when Bane's mask was damaged and he started to go apesh*t, that pretty much made the whole movie. Awsome sequence.

That part was great, but overall I felt that the second fight wasn't that great and was too short.

Guys, Bane was the public side of the PARTNERSHIP. The plan wouldn't have worked without Bane, and if Tahlia was killing people, how would she have gotten Wayne Enterprises? She wouldn't've. I don't get the problem with this. A guy who kicks Batman's ass isn't cool because he didn't do everything alone? Come on, really!

Also, his death was quick and brief, way more realistic.

[QUOTE="BluRayHiDef"]What do you guys think of the final fight between Batman and Bane? Do you think Batman defeated him a bit too easily, even when you disregard the fact that he targeted Bane's mask? It seems as though Batman was stronger than he was in their first fight (not as strong as Bane but strong enough to hold his own against him). Also, did anyone find it funny when Bane began snarling and going crazy after Batman damaged his mask? Why was Bane as strong as he was; despite the lack of Venom in the film, he was strong enough to punch a hole into a cement column. Finally, what was the source of the gas channelling through Bane's mask; there were no gas canistors.Tokugawa77

I think a major theme was strength through determination and willpower rather than fighting ability. Remember when Lucius showed that footage of Bane wrecking the sh*t out of that security checkpoint and said that he fought so well because he was just so determined and beleived in what he was fighting for? I think that batman's time in the prison essentially gave him Bane's source of power. Just my theory

That, and Bruce Wayne had been training (physically, I would guess in his specific types of martial arts as well) for 3+ months (Nolan really screwed up the dates in the movie unfortunately, so it is a little unknown), so he was in (presumed) better shape than when he was crippled in Wayne Manor and decided to go fight Bane the first time.

That, and Bruce Wayne had been training (physically, I would guess in his specific types of martial arts as well) for 3+ months (Nolan really screwed up the dates in the movie unfortunately, so it is a little unknown), so he was in (presumed) better shape than when he was crippled in Wayne Manor and decided to go fight Bane the first time.

Zlurodirom

You also have to remember that he jumped out of the prison, so when he was able to do that he was better then he had ever been before I would assume.

The reactor bothered me more than anything else.

1. The bomb was supposed to have a six mile radius. What happened to that?

2. It's a radioactive bomb and Batman just dumped it in the cities water supply. Really? Don't know why they were cheering at the end, they're all going to die of radioactive poisining anyway.

3. Where the hell was the shockwave? What the hell, if it was that wimpy a bomb you have to wonder why they went to so much effort to obtain it.

4. Why did that woman wait to the the VERY end of the film to flood the reactor? I mean she could have just flooded it early on and no one would have been any the wiser.

5. Why is a power source so ridiculously small? Yeah, fussion or whatever, but come on. There wasn't even anyone watching it or anything. If a fault occured it would have been catastrophic. Nice bit of negligence there Brucey.

6. If this thing is meant to be so complicated, sensitive and whatever then why the hell is it being tossed around so freaking much?

7. Why did it take so long for the bomb to become unstable?

I mean its Batman, so it's not as if you're supposed to care, but if the film is going to make such a huge point about the dangers of nuclear power then maybe they should have at least done a small bit of research to ensure some sort of accuracy. Love it when actors/directors/musicians try to ram messages down our throats when they can't even begin to comprehend the facts about them in the first place.

The final fight would've been a lot cooler and climatic if Batman showed up to confront Bane as...

The reactor bothered me more than anything else.

1. The bomb was supposed to have a six mile radius. What happened to that?

2. It's a radioactive bomb and Batman just dumped it in the cities water supply. Really? Don't know why they were cheering at the end, they're all going to die of radioactive poisining anyway.

3. Where the hell was the shockwave? What the hell, if it was that wimpy a bomb you have to wonder why they went to so much effort to obtain it.

4. Why did that woman wait to the the VERY end of the film to flood the reactor? I mean she could have just flooded it early on and no one would have been any the wiser.

5. Why is a power source so ridiculously small? Yeah, fussion or whatever, but come on. There wasn't even anyone watching it or anything. If a fault occured it would have been catastrophic. Nice bit of negligence there Brucey.

6. If this thing is meant to be so complicated, sensitive and whatever then why the hell is it being tossed around so freaking much?

7. Why did it take so long for the bomb to become unstable?

I mean its Batman, so it's not as if you're supposed to care, but if the film is going to make such a huge point about the dangers of nuclear power then maybe they should have at least done a small bit of research to ensure some sort of accuracy. Love it when actors/directors/musicians try to ram messages down our throats when they can't even begin to comprehend the facts about them in the first place.

WasntAvailable

Here are my thoughts. I'd say there are bigger issues in the movie to complain about than these items (How did Talia know about the reactor in the first place, when Bruce Wayne was being so secret about it, the whole plan hinged on it).

1. We have to assume the Bat was flying 300+ mph, because it only had a minute or so before it went off when it left the city.

2. Don't know much about fallout, but I would guess they don't drink the water in the surrounding area, same way people in New York don't drink from the Hudson River.

3. My guess is the total devastation of the bomb is included in the blast radius, thus the name "blast radius".

4. If she flooded it earlier then there would be no suspense for the moviegoers, she was thinking of us. Also if they thought it was a viable strategy then they would waste time returning the bomb, rather than focus on getting it out of the city?

5. Don't know much about nuclear fission reactors, but it doesn't need a large chamber, only a few atoms are needed I believe.

6. I think it was more of the decay of the plutonium(?) in the reactor.

7. Decay/halflife of the plutonium(?) until it became unstable and went off? I don't really know the science behind it.

The reactor bothered me more than anything else.

1. The bomb was supposed to have a six mile radius. What happened to that?

2. It's a radioactive bomb and Batman just dumped it in the cities water supply. Really? Don't know why they were cheering at the end, they're all going to die of radioactive poisining anyway.

3. Where the hell was the shockwave? What the hell, if it was that wimpy a bomb you have to wonder why they went to so much effort to obtain it.

4. Why did that woman wait to the the VERY end of the film to flood the reactor? I mean she could have just flooded it early on and no one would have been any the wiser.

5. Why is a power source so ridiculously small? Yeah, fussion or whatever, but come on. There wasn't even anyone watching it or anything. If a fault occured it would have been catastrophic. Nice bit of negligence there Brucey.

6. If this thing is meant to be so complicated, sensitive and whatever then why the hell is it being tossed around so freaking much?

7. Why did it take so long for the bomb to become unstable?

I mean its Batman, so it's not as if you're supposed to care, but if the film is going to make such a huge point about the dangers of nuclear power then maybe they should have at least done a small bit of research to ensure some sort of accuracy. Love it when actors/directors/musicians try to ram messages down our throats when they can't even begin to comprehend the facts about them in the first place.

WasntAvailable

I don't feel like Nolan was trying to "ram a message down my throat" about the dangers of nuclear power. I think it was just a cliche comic-book "holy crap power! bad guy wants it!" kind of thing. They threw around words like "nuclear" and "fusion" to make it sound smart to people who don't care, and because the idea was that it was supposed to be a renewable energy source, turned into a weapon in the wrong hands (much like nuclear energy before the A-Bomb), but I really don't think there was supposed to be any kind of deep message against nuclear power. If there was, then it went right over my head, along with the heads of everyone I saw it with, and the dozens of friends back home I've talked about it with.

Arguing over the logic of a movie about a millionaire who fights crime dressed like a bat and nobody can figure out who he is even though he is clearly the only one who can afford the machines he uses. Yeah, that makes sense.harashawn

Im pretty sure you see Blake at the end with a GPS tracker. He put the pearls in the Batcave.

Question: Were Talia and Bane expecting to die along with Gotham in the bomb explosion? th3warr1or

The reactor bothered me more than anything else.

1. The bomb was supposed to have a six mile radius. What happened to that?

2. It's a radioactive bomb and Batman just dumped it in the cities water supply. Really? Don't know why they were cheering at the end, they're all going to die of radioactive poisining anyway.

3. Where the hell was the shockwave? What the hell, if it was that wimpy a bomb you have to wonder why they went to so much effort to obtain it.

4. Why did that woman wait to the the VERY end of the film to flood the reactor? I mean she could have just flooded it early on and no one would have been any the wiser.

5. Why is a power source so ridiculously small? Yeah, fussion or whatever, but come on. There wasn't even anyone watching it or anything. If a fault occured it would have been catastrophic. Nice bit of negligence there Brucey.

6. If this thing is meant to be so complicated, sensitive and whatever then why the hell is it being tossed around so freaking much?

7. Why did it take so long for the bomb to become unstable?

I mean its Batman, so it's not as if you're supposed to care, but if the film is going to make such a huge point about the dangers of nuclear power then maybe they should have at least done a small bit of research to ensure some sort of accuracy. Love it when actors/directors/musicians try to ram messages down our throats when they can't even begin to comprehend the facts about them in the first place.

WasntAvailable

1. The bomb exploded underwater. Remember the failsafe for the reactor was to drown it? There's a reason for that.

2. It was a fusion reactor, it produces between zero and minimal radioactive waste, depending on the elements used.

3. Again, it was underwater.

4. Im assuming you mean Talia, by the time she did this, the reactor wasn't down there anymore, it was on a truck, remember? She was trying to kill Lucius.

5. You said yourself, it's fusion. It wasn't even active for most of the movie, they didn't activate it until after the stock exchange scene after Bruce lost control of Wayne Enterprises.

6. Dude, How were they supposed to know that a group of terrorists seeking to destoy the city would end up getting their hands on a fusion reactor that only like 3 people knew existed?

7. I'm not sure what you mean by this, it became unstable as soon as they detached it.

If I were you I wouldn't be ragging on anyone for their comprehension skills.

So who was the Batman though? I thought it was Fox but then he was at the reactor when Batman was flying his plane.SolidSnake35

Tom Cruise! Who else?

Applying logic to the plot of TDKR? It won't work.

Nolan was very cheap (or the writers) when making this film. There is also the question of how Batman escaped the Batship 5 seconds before the nuke went off. We all saw him in the ship, then we saw the timer at 5 or 10 seconds. Doesn't work.

It's a good movie if you don;t look too deep into it, otherwise, it's very flawed. I feel sorry for the die-hard Batman fans out there.

BossPerson

He didn't have to escape the Batwing; he set it to autopilot as Fox acknowledged when he was examining it ("He fixed the autopilot six months ago?") and that's how he sent the bomb away.

He must've just taken the other ship to escape, as they were showing him in one that was "in black."