Question for Christians (yes, another religion thread!)

If you were born and raised in a situation where you were never introduced to christianity (like if you were born in Iran, or alone on a desert island), how would you come to believe in God?

In my religion, you don't get baptized at birth, you get baptized when you're in your teens after you go to lots of bible studies and they test you on what you've learned. Also, that's why people convert, they have a choice.

Paper_Knife: So you could do as many immoral things as you like, never ask Jesus for forgivenss, and still get into heaven? Well, you're going to be hanging out with a lot of bad people after you die.

ReverseCycology, I'm talking about people that are never introduced to christianity. How would they ever have the choice if they never know about it?

Well, you'd prolly be taught about allah and never even think about the christian god... I'm a pastafarian. We know our s**t.8drunkengods

Paper_Knife: So you could do as many immoral things as you like, never ask Jesus for forgivenss, and still get into heaven? Well, you're going to be hanging out with a lot of bad people after you die.

ReverseCycology, I'm talking about people that are never introduced to christianity. How would they ever have the choice if they never know about it?

Sooshy

Congrats friend! You've just found one of the many, many holes in the christian faith! Find one thousand and get a free prize!

Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. 123625

The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.fidosim

[QUOTE="8drunkengods"]Well, you'd prolly be taught about allah and never even think about the christian god... I'm a pastafarian. We know our s**t.Sooshy

There is no answer, it's a broken system.

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. Sooshy

What makes you think that?

[QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.Sooshy

You said you had a question for Christians, when in reality you just want to argue pointlessly. Your question was answered in the first reply.

The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.fidosim

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! They always touch you in bad places and undress you with their eyes!!!

[QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.8drunkengods

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! They always touch you in bad places and undress you with their eyes!!!

That bigoted stereotype only applies to Catholic Priests.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.fidosim

You said you had a question for Christians, when in reality you just want to argue pointlessly. Your question was answered in the first reply.

Your siggy's kinda makin' me hot...

[QUOTE="8drunkengods"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know,you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.fidosim

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! They always touch you in bad places and undress you with their eyes!!!

That bigoted stereotype only applies to Catholic Priests.

scary none the less!

[QUOTE="fidosim"]

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.8drunkengods

You said you had a question for Christians, when in reality you just want to argue pointlessly. Your question was answered in the first reply.

Your siggy's kinda makin' me hot...

It's not really supposed to have that effect.

[QUOTE="8drunkengods"][QUOTE="fidosim"]

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.fidosim

You said you had a question for Christians, when in reality you just want to argue pointlessly. Your question was answered in the first reply.

Your siggy's kinda makin' me hot...

It's not really supposed to have that effect.

too bad.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.fidosim

You said you had a question for Christians, when in reality you just want to argue pointlessly. Your question was answered in the first reply.

Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. 123625

Where the heck does it say that?

[QUOTE="8drunkengods"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.fidosim

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! They always touch you in bad places and undress you with their eyes!!!

That bigoted stereotype only applies to Catholic Priests.

:lol:

Hypocrisy Award of the day goes to....fidosim! For his utter lack of logic and ability to criticize others for actions he himself commits, fidosim is awarded the daily OT Hypocrisy Award. Congrats, it was well deserved!

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. battlefront23

Where the heck does it say that?

Dunno, I remember skimming around some of the first few chapters and something similar, I admit i may be wrong.

Believe in God through another religion? BTW in Iran there are Christians.

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="8drunkengods"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.mikeg0788

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! They always touch you in bad places and undress you with their eyes!!!

That bigoted stereotype only applies to Catholic Priests.

:lol:

Hypocrisy Award of the day goes to....fidosim! For his utter lack of logic and ability to criticize others for actions he himself commits, fidosim is awarded the daily OT Hypocrisy Award. Congrats, it was well deserved!

I'm not saying Catholic Priests are molesters, genius. I'm saying people generally only make that stereotype about them because of a few incidents a few years ago.

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="8drunkengods"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.fidosim

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! They always touch you in bad places and undress you with their eyes!!!

That bigoted stereotype only applies to Catholic Priests.

:lol:

Hypocrisy Award of the day goes to....fidosim! For his utter lack of logic and ability to criticize others for actions he himself commits, fidosim is awarded the daily OT Hypocrisy Award. Congrats, it was well deserved!

I'm not saying Catholic Priests are molesters, genius. I'm saying people generally only make that stereotype about them because of a few incidents a few years ago.

a few?!?! Hell of a lot more than that.

This explains it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k

I'm a Christian myself but I have to be honest, it wasn't a few incidents, in Mexico last year there were over 300 child abuse cases committed by clergy.

[QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="8drunkengods"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.fidosim

I'm a Christian myself but I have to be honest it's not a few cases, In Mexico alone there were over 300 molestation cases last year.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! They always touch you in bad places and undress you with their eyes!!!

That bigoted stereotype only applies to Catholic Priests.

:lol:

Hypocrisy Award of the day goes to....fidosim! For his utter lack of logic and ability to criticize others for actions he himself commits, fidosim is awarded the daily OT Hypocrisy Award. Congrats, it was well deserved!

I'm not saying Catholic Priests are molesters, genius. I'm saying people generally only make that stereotype about them because of a few incidents a few years ago.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. 123625

Where the heck does it say that?

Dunno, I remember skimming around some of the first few chapters and something similar, I admit i may be wrong.

I guarantee you it doesn't. There's the verse that says "No one can come to the Father except through Me". So I think they go to hell actually. But I don't think God would allow people to be unreached.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. battlefront23

Where the heck does it say that?

Dunno, I remember skimming around some of the first few chapters and something similar, I admit i may be wrong.

I guarantee you it doesn't. There's the verse that says "No one can come to the Father except through Me". So I think they go to hell actually. But I don't think God would allow people to be unreached.

Kinda unfair then.

Maybe some missionary will come and tell me about God or I will never know about Him. But God won't take it against me since there was nothing I could do.

I don't understand how some Christians can say only people who believe in God can go to heaven because that contradicts God's merciful nature.

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="8drunkengods"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.8drunkengods

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! They always touch you in bad places and undress you with their eyes!!!

That bigoted stereotype only applies to Catholic Priests.

:lol:

Hypocrisy Award of the day goes to....fidosim! For his utter lack of logic and ability to criticize others for actions he himself commits, fidosim is awarded the daily OT Hypocrisy Award. Congrats, it was well deserved!

I'm not saying Catholic Priests are molesters, genius. I'm saying people generally only make that stereotype about them because of a few incidents a few years ago.

a few?!?! Hell of a lot more than that.

This explains it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k

Okay, so you post a video that makes fun of the stereotype.

[QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="mikeg0788"][QUOTE="fidosim"][QUOTE="8drunkengods"]

[QUOTE="fidosim"]The people on this forum sure have a lot of questions for Christians. If you really wanted to know, you would've asked a Pastor. These threads are purposely inflammatory and should be locked.8drunkengods

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!! They always touch you in bad places and undress you with their eyes!!!

That bigoted stereotype only applies to Catholic Priests.

:lol:

Hypocrisy Award of the day goes to....fidosim! For his utter lack of logic and ability to criticize others for actions he himself commits, fidosim is awarded the daily OT Hypocrisy Award. Congrats, it was well deserved!

I'm not saying Catholic Priests are molesters, genius. I'm saying people generally only make that stereotype about them because of a few incidents a few years ago.

a few?!?! Hell of a lot more than that.

This explains it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VABSoHYQr6k

Are they following what the Bible say? Obviously not so they are crappy priests. The catholic church are responsible for almost all of the skelteons in the closet of Christianity.

Believe in God through another religion? BTW in Iran there are Christians.

felixlynch777

Also, if Wikipedia is to be believed, the christian population in Iran shares a 2% portion with seven other religions, so it might as well be non-existant.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. battlefront23

Where the heck does it say that?

Dunno, I remember skimming around some of the first few chapters and something similar, I admit i may be wrong.

I guarantee you it doesn't. There's the verse that says "No one can come to the Father except through Me". So I think they go to hell actually. But I don't think God would allow people to be unreached.

What are you talking about? There's tribes in Africa with absolutely no contact with the outside world, let alone a thorough knowledge of Christianity and its tenets.

Besides, even if people DO hear the gospel, some reject it do to cultural and social norms where they live or because it simply doesn't FEEL right to them. Is God going to eternally fault someone for HOW he created and WHERE he placed them in the world?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. 123625

Where the heck does it say that?

Dunno, I remember skimming around some of the first few chapters and something similar, I admit i may be wrong.

I guarantee you it doesn't. There's the verse that says "No one can come to the Father except through Me". So I think they go to hell actually. But I don't think God would allow people to be unreached.

Kinda unfair then.

Like previously stated, I don't think anyone in this life hasn't heard of the Jehovah God. I mean Christianity is everywhere.

this sounds like something bill maher would debate about.

here's the trailer for his new movie: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSa2j6UoU78

[QUOTE="Sooshy"]

If you were born and raised in a situation where you were never introduced to christianity (like if you were born in Iran, or alone on a desert island), how would you come to believe in God?

4seal

Thats all up to God. He is a merciful God, so I don't think he would punish someone (hell) for not believing in him, when they never heard of him. I don't know how it works in this situation though. Maybe your given a choice when your dead?. Not sure.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. battlefront23

Where the heck does it say that?

Dunno, I remember skimming around some of the first few chapters and something similar, I admit i may be wrong.

I guarantee you it doesn't. There's the verse that says "No one can come to the Father except through Me". So I think they go to hell actually. But I don't think God would allow people to be unreached.

Here's a quote from the Bible you will find interesting:

" I am everywhere. Look under a stone and you shall find me. God is not bound in a building of stone. God is everywhere."

Translation: You can find God anywhere not just through Christianity. And the passage you reference above I think The Prince of Peace meant that you can only go to heaven through goodness, i.e Jesus Christ. I don't think Jesus would send someone to hell for not being Christian.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. battlefront23

Where the heck does it say that?

Dunno, I remember skimming around some of the first few chapters and something similar, I admit i may be wrong.

I guarantee you it doesn't. There's the verse that says "No one can come to the Father except through Me". So I think they go to hell actually. But I don't think God would allow people to be unreached.

Kinda unfair then.

Like previously stated, I don't think anyone in this life hasn't heard of the Jehovah God. I mean Christianity is everywhere.

What about in the past? and in africa? Sorry I don't think God is gonna send you to hell, because you've never heard of him. If he did I wouldn't beleive in him. But don't get me wrong I do.

[QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. battlefront23

Where the heck does it say that?

Dunno, I remember skimming around some of the first few chapters and something similar, I admit i may be wrong.

I guarantee you it doesn't. There's the verse that says "No one can come to the Father except through Me". So I think they go to hell actually. But I don't think God would allow people to be unreached.

Kinda unfair then.

Like previously stated, I don't think anyone in this life hasn't heard of the Jehovah God. I mean Christianity is everywhere.

unfortunate, eh?

[QUOTE="felixlynch777"]

Believe in God through another religion? BTW in Iran there are Christians.

Sooshy

What I mean is that to believe in God can mean to believe in goodness. It doesn't matter if they are atheists, Hindus or Buhddists if you do good things God will reward you. And Muslims, Christians and Jews all believe in the same God.

Also, if Wikipedia is to be believed, the christian population in Iran shares a 2% portion with seven other religions, so it might as well be non-existant.

Wait a minute when you say "That's a hell of a sentance" do you mean they will go to hell for being non-christians? People like you is why a lot of people have a low view of Christians.

felix,

What source are you getting this from? According to the christian religion, you go to hell if you don't believe if the correct God. Also, I say that "hell sentence" part because that's what the christian religion says.

felix,

What source are you getting this from? According to the christian religion, you go to hell if you don't believe if the correct God. Also, I say that "hell sentence" part because that's what the christian religion says.

Sooshy

Whose to decide whose the "correct God". You're very intolerant for someone who claims to be a Christian. The source is The Bible, The Word of God. How do we know Moses didn't just make the ten commandments himself and make up the God part? Moses was a bloodthirsty warlord and shouldn't be considered a Prophet.

[QUOTE="felixlynch777"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="123625"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="123625"]Don't think God is gonna hold it against you, it was something that couldn't be helped. Plus i think it says somewhere in the Bible that rightous beleivers of different Gods in parts of the world where they havent heard christianity, are good in God's book. But to be honest this is just pure what i think. 8drunkengods

Where the heck does it say that?

Dunno, I remember skimming around some of the first few chapters and something similar, I admit i may be wrong.

I guarantee you it doesn't. There's the verse that says "No one can come to the Father except through Me". So I think they go to hell actually. But I don't think God would allow people to be unreached.

Here's a quote from the Bile you will find interesting:

" I am everywhere. Look under a stone and you shall find me. God is not bound in a building of stone. God is everywhere."

Translation: You can find God anywhere not just through Christianity. And the passage you reference above I think The Prince of Peace meant that you can only go to heaven through goodness, i.e Jesus Christ. I don't think Jesus would send someone to hell for not being Christian.

such an interesting way to refer to it... yet so true.

I'm not joking or being sarcastic you're a pretty funny guy.