"Planet Of The Arabs" An Expose of racism and sterotypes in Hollywood

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#51 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

I've noticed this a lot ever since 9/11. It's really annoying because it's obvious that it's hollywood playing off of people's fearful, racist stereotypes. For example, last night I literally facepalmed when I turned the channel to Law and Order and in the first five minutes of the episode the show revealed that the suspects were two Arab guys who had killed a woman and the logical step for the show from there was not "these two guys must have had a beef with this woman" but rather "they're terrorists pissed at her husband for not giving them landmine technology".

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That depends. How did they write the conclusion?

Dunno, I changed the channel after the show pulled something that stupid. I was like "if the writing is already this bad at the start I'm not going to suffer through it any longer". Knowing L&W there was probably a few twists along the way though, so it's certainly possible that it ended up being someone else/for a different motive. That said, it was a really stupid moment of the show. Like the first scene was at a gas station and just had some attendants talking about how they had seen two Arabic men threatening the murdered woman before they all drove off. In the next scene they show the investigators sitting down with the husband and asking him if he had any reason why terrorists would want to target him/his family. The show just acted as if it's perfectly reasonable to assume that because Arabs are suspected of a crime that they must be terrorists.

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#52 cru3
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This works both ways. Some Arab childrens shows portray Jews and westerners as pigs and animals, drinking Arab/Muslim childrens blood. Not movies, CHILDREN programming. If you want to complain about stereotypes and typecasting, look at the entire picture, not the one sided "only white people are racist" mentality.
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#53 munu9
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That was highly disturbing, American's have grown really paranoid of islam. The phrase "praise Allah" would probably make 80% American's really unconfortable even though it's the equivalent of "praise Jesus" or something like that. But wait, christianity was never used to justifying doing something bad :roll:
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#54 LJS9502_basic
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That was highly disturbing, American's have grown really paranoid of islam. The phrase "praise Allah" would probably make 80% American's really unconfortable even though it's the equivalent of "praise Jesus" or something like that. But wait, christianity was never used to justifying doing something bad :roll: munu9
What are you talking about? Every group has been a villian in a Hollywood production at some time or other. Not a big deal....it's not reality.

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#55 Buck_Hotep
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

I've noticed this a lot ever since 9/11. It's really annoying because it's obvious that it's hollywood playing off of people's fearful, racist stereotypes. For example, last night I literally facepalmed when I turned the channel to Law and Order and in the first five minutes of the episode the show revealed that the suspects were two Arab guys who had killed a woman and the logical step for the show from there was not "these two guys must have had a beef with this woman" but rather "they're terrorists pissed at her husband for not giving them landmine technology".

gameguy6700

That depends. How did they write the conclusion?

Dunno, I changed the channel after the show pulled something that stupid. I was like "if the writing is already this bad at the start I'm not going to suffer through it any longer". Knowing L&W there was probably a few twists along the way though, so it's certainly possible that it ended up being someone else/for a different motive. That said, it was a really stupid moment of the show. Like the first scene was at a gas station and just had some attendants talking about how they had seen two Arabic men threatening the murdered woman before they all drove off. In the next scene they show the investigators sitting down with the husband and asking him if he had any reason why terrorists would want to target him/his family. The show just acted as if it's perfectly reasonable to assume that because Arabs are suspected of a crime that they must be terrorists.

Well, I would say that you were the one who took what was an initial start to a show that reveals the real culprit midway as stupid. Most of the episodes on Law and Order which involved Arabs and/or Islam usually ends up being far-handed of the situation and still talk about stereotypes.

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#56 munu9
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[QUOTE="munu9"]That was highly disturbing, American's have grown really paranoid of islam. The phrase "praise Allah" would probably make 80% American's really unconfortable even though it's the equivalent of "praise Jesus" or something like that. But wait, christianity was never used to justifying doing something bad :roll: LJS9502_basic

What are you talking about? Every group has been a villian in a Hollywood production at some time or other. Not a big deal....it's not reality.

Well at this time it's highly polarized towards muslims/arabs, wouldn't you agree? And it's not just the movies, it's what the people actually believe that is disappointing in this day and age.
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#57 gameguy6700
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[QUOTE="gameguy6700"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]That depends. How did they write the conclusion?

Buck_Hotep

Dunno, I changed the channel after the show pulled something that stupid. I was like "if the writing is already this bad at the start I'm not going to suffer through it any longer". Knowing L&W there was probably a few twists along the way though, so it's certainly possible that it ended up being someone else/for a different motive. That said, it was a really stupid moment of the show. Like the first scene was at a gas station and just had some attendants talking about how they had seen two Arabic men threatening the murdered woman before they all drove off. In the next scene they show the investigators sitting down with the husband and asking him if he had any reason why terrorists would want to target him/his family. The show just acted as if it's perfectly reasonable to assume that because Arabs are suspected of a crime that they must be terrorists.

Well, I would say that you were the one who took what was an initial start to a show that reveals the real culprit midway as stupid. Most of the episodes on Law and Order which involved Arabs and/or Islam usually ends up being far-handed of the situation and still talk about stereotypes.

Like I said in the post you just quoted, I'm aware that L&W typically does that. However, the premise of the episode was so incredibly stupid and poorly thought out that I just stopped watching the second they made such a ridiculous leap.

My point about the episode was this: The mere fact that the writer's of that episode thought that people would find that premise reasonable says a lot about Americans' perceptions of Arabs.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="munu9"]That was highly disturbing, American's have grown really paranoid of islam. The phrase "praise Allah" would probably make 80% American's really unconfortable even though it's the equivalent of "praise Jesus" or something like that. But wait, christianity was never used to justifying doing something bad :roll: munu9

What are you talking about? Every group has been a villian in a Hollywood production at some time or other. Not a big deal....it's not reality.

Well at this time it's highly polarized towards muslims/arabs, wouldn't you agree? And it's not just the movies, it's what the people actually believe that is disappointing in this day and age.

Most of the movies that has muslims as the bad guys are modern war/military movies. Only makes sense no?
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#59 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="munu9"]That was highly disturbing, American's have grown really paranoid of islam. The phrase "praise Allah" would probably make 80% American's really unconfortable even though it's the equivalent of "praise Jesus" or something like that. But wait, christianity was never used to justifying doing something bad :roll: munu9

What are you talking about? Every group has been a villian in a Hollywood production at some time or other. Not a big deal....it's not reality.

Well at this time it's highly polarized towards muslims/arabs, wouldn't you agree? And it's not just the movies, it's what the people actually believe that is disappointing in this day and age.

Due to 911. But that doesn't mean it hasn't happened with all groups. I don't know that a majority of people believe that....some yes.

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#60 redbaron3
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back to the future is on the list... seriously that 4 minute part in the first movie with some guys in a van with AK47s is racist? seriously?.... man saving private Ryan must be a hate crime against Germans...
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#61 Juggernaut140
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Whoa! I was just about to listen to Skeletons of Society! :o I think everyone gets portrayed negatively in Hollywood.
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#62 musicaz70
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I think the movie is blowing it all out of porportion... but why do users feel the need to post snarky sacarstic comments? It's a somewhat serious issue, and how would you feel if most arab films showed Americans in a negative sense? Sure, maybe not outraged, but I bet you would be annoyed.

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#63 Famiking
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I like how most the "Arabs" in that video are just Indians in Arab clothing :lol:
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#64 Famiking
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And it's sad movies like this will sell, let alone be allowed to be sold. Thank you capitalism for breeding ignorance.
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#65 redbaron3
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i like how the movie rules of engagement is shown in the trailer particularly the part where Samuel L Jackson yells "Waste the mother F***ers!" if they actualy watched the movie they would know that his character goes on trial for firing on them and the whole movie revolves around his trial...
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#66 lukadragon
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Ugh. Wah wah wah. Everybody whines that their race is negatively portrayed in movies. They're movies. Get over it.

-_Rain_-

Im sure yud like if in evry movie that had americans, they were notinvincible,genius herosthat are smarter than Eisntein, but in fact evil, arrogant, fat,ugly villains. Youd' get pissed off at thatportrayal of americans.

Yud probably pissed off when yu realise thats the prevalent stereotype thought of by eu and australians ( this is how everybody outside of the u.s thinks americans are like :?this is just an example. these are real normal americans in the street: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q566ys0sqVQ .)

Now i ask you, would you appreciate being immediately put down in thelevel of intelligence that these people show just because you're american... You think you don't get naything bad from these stereotypes ,but, subconcously it does affect the treatment of these people, and can develop into a full blown dislike of the particular culture that is portrayed.

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[QUOTE="-_Rain_-"]

Ugh. Wah wah wah. Everybody whines that their race is negatively portrayed in movies. They're movies. Get over it.

lukadragon

Im sure yud like if in evry movie that had americans, they were notinvincible,genius herosthat are smarter than Eisntein, but in fact evil, arrogant, fat,ugly villains. Youd' get pissed off at thatportrayal of americans.

Yud probably pissed off when yu realise thats the prevalent stereotype thought of by eu and australians ( this is how everybody outside of the u.s thinks americans are like :?this is just an example. these are real normal americans in the street: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q566ys0sqVQ .)

Now i ask you, would you appreciate being immediately put down in thelevel of intelligence that these people show just because you're american... You think you don't get naything bad from these stereotypes ,but, subconcously it does affect the treatment of these people, and can develop into a full blown dislike of the particular culture that is portrayed.

Last time I checked out shows like King of Queens, Simpsons, Flintstones, Family Guy, South Park, Friends, Two and a Half Men etc. Americans are portrayed as stupid and arrogant. Usually it's the dad who's fat but it's not consistent. There are countless movies that portray the exact same image.
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#68 Famiking
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People tend not to take people stereotyping themselves so seriously, the problem is when it's against other people.
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#69 Nifty_Shark
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Native Americans say hi... Now lets all do the Ghost Dance and chant like idiots :lol:

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#70 Link256
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Anyone initially see that as "Planet of the Apes"?

I know I did.