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#1 clyde46
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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article1567785.ece

Gen Nogovitsy stressed Moscow was ready to use nuclear weapons "against allies of countries having nuclear weapons if they in some way help them".

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#2 markop2003
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first post a credible source

if they are really doing it then i don't really blame them, their nucleur defense is being threatened and the only way to win a nuclear war is to die last

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#3 Dante2710
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if this is true....then maybe the world ending in 1012 isnt far from being truthful
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#4 gs_gear
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I wonder who's to blame for this?
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#5 clyde46
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http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4541613.ece

The Times a credible source?

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#6 diped
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Russia is just scared, and are scary. Anyone with nukes is a threat, and they just want to protect themselves from other countries with nukes.

I just hope they acually follow whatever they signed. Or else there definately could be some tension, which may or may not lead to trouble.

Poland is allowed to ally with whoever they want really, its not Russia's job to decide who they ally with. Although I don't think America should go and build defence missles there. I also don't see why thats so bad, if they are for defence, and you don't plan to ever again go on the offence(as that would lead to a nuclear war and the death of everyone), then what is the problem?
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Well, I've lived some happy years on this Earth :)
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I totally agree with Russia on this one, and am glad they stated it rather than just wait till it happened to respond. Also I think it would be totally hilarious if Russia decides they want "anti-missiles" on Mexico or something.
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#9 deactivated-619c4c1a1a382
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Well then im moving to zimbabwe
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I totally agree with Russia on this one, and am glad they stated it rather than just wait till it happened to respond. Also I think it would be totally hilarious if Russia decides they want "anti-missiles" on Mexico or something.Penguin_dragon

It would be Cuba all over again.

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#11 skinnypete91
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The Sun does make me laugh.

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#12 darkfox101
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Bohohoho I'm not going down with a few threats
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#13 Zaeryn
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Not surprising.
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Quoting The Sun? rofl.

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I totally agree with Russia on this one, and am glad they stated it rather than just wait till it happened to respond. Also I think it would be totally hilarious if Russia decides they want "anti-missiles" on Mexico or something.Penguin_dragon

i think that is actually the best solution

Russia is just scared, and are scary. Anyone with nukes is a threat, and they just want to protect themselves from other countries with nukes.

I just hope they acually follow whatever they signed. Or else there definately could be some tension, which may or may not lead to trouble.

Poland is allowed to ally with whoever they want really, its not Russia's job to decide who they ally with. Although I don't think America should go and build defence missles there. I also don't see why thats so bad, if they are for defence, and you don't plan to ever again go on the offence(as that would lead to a nuclear war and the death of everyone), then what is the problem?diped

Russia's only nuclear defense is mutually assured destruction so as soon as the missile shild goes up it means that russian missiles can be shot down and therefore no mutually assured destruction so russia has no defence. It also allows the US to manage other country's wars that involve long range missiles as they could shoot down anyones whether they're heading for an ally or they wish to manipulate another war.

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#16 Dutch_Mix
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How exactly does our missile defense system work? :?
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#17 gs_gear
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How exactly does our missile defense system work? :?Dutch_Mix
Russian nuke = bullet

Europe = bulletproof vest

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#18 Zaeryn
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Why do people nuke anyways? Why can't they just use their troops instead of killing hundreds of thousands of innocent citizens? It's stupid. Or better yet, they could just not fight.
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#19 markop2003
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How exactly does our missile defense system work? :?Dutch_Mix

1. missiles detected by radar or satalite

2. nuke missile shot down with smaller missiles

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#20 clyde46
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Quoting The Sun? rofl.

KOTORkicker

Did you miss the Times quote?

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#21 branketra
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These guys need to be taught a lesson.
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#22 -tridgen-
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Well then im moving to zimbabwewdave92

i'm coming with you :P

ontopic:why russia keeps threatening everybody? it's like if they want to fight or something :/

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[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]How exactly does our missile defense system work? :?gs_gear

Russian nuke = bullet

Europe = bulletproof vest

Not exactly, Russian nuclear arsenal greatly overwhelms the shields capabilities, in no way will it stop all of them. At best 1 0r 2. The Russians are angry because there is virtually no difference between a defensive and an offensive system, and the US is known for backing out on promises.
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Russia's only nuclear defense is mutually assured destruction so as soon as the missile shild goes up it means that russian missiles can be shot down and therefore no mutually assured destruction so russia has no defence. It also allows the US to manage other country's wars that involve long range missiles as they could shoot down anyones whether they're heading for an ally or they wish to manipulate another war.

markop2003

oh please the missile shield is as effective as a paper bag against a rpg...

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[QUOTE="wdave92"]Well then im moving to zimbabwe-tridgen-

i'm coming with you :P

ontopic:why russia keeps threatening everybody? it's like if they want to fight or something :/

In all reality this is what the media is doing to take away attention form US/Israel-Iran fiasco. If you think that was a threat, remember a while back that US and Israel stated many times that war on Iran was a when question, they also went as far as doing an exercise together to simulate the attack. Israel also stated that it will destroy Iran's nuclear facilities. It is a propaganda war, it is almost the same as Bush playing the 911 card to invade Iraq. Which many people to this day cant put together.
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#26 gs_gear
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[QUOTE="gs_gear"]

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]How exactly does our missile defense system work? :?muscleserge

Russian nuke = bullet

Europe = bulletproof vest

Not exactly, Russian nuclear arsenal greatly overwhelms the shields capabilities, in no way will it stop all of them. At best 1 0r 2. The Russians are angry because there is virtually no difference between a defensive and an offensive system, and the US is known for backing out on promises.

lol you didn't get it

You know what happens to the bulletproof vest after it gets a few bullets.:P

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#27 -tridgen-
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[QUOTE="-tridgen-"]

[QUOTE="wdave92"]Well then im moving to zimbabwemuscleserge

i'm coming with you :P

ontopic:why russia keeps threatening everybody? it's like if they want to fight or something :/

In all reality this is what the media is doing to take away attention form US/Israel-Iran fiasco. If you think that was a threat, remember a while back that US and Israel stated many times that war on Iran was a when question, they also went as far as doing an exercise together to simulate the attack. Israel also stated that it will destroy Iran's nuclear facilities. It is a propaganda war, it is almost the same as Bush playing the 911 card to invade Iraq. Which many people to this day cant put together.

i see...well i honestly don't know who's wrong. This conflict is a complete mess :/

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[QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="gs_gear"]

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]How exactly does our missile defense system work? :?gs_gear

Russian nuke = bullet

Europe = bulletproof vest

Not exactly, Russian nuclear arsenal greatly overwhelms the shields capabilities, in no way will it stop all of them. At best 1 0r 2. The Russians are angry because there is virtually no difference between a defensive and an offensive system, and the US is known for backing out on promises.

lol you didn't get it

You know what happens to the bulletproof vest after it gets a few bullets.:P


The missile shield isn't a force shield that gets weaker of every nuke that hits it lol.
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#29 l34052
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I really dont blame Russia at all, america is a country that cannot be trusted in the slightest and will do whatever they want to suit their own selfish needs.

I hope Russia does make a stand against them, its bout time someone did.

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#30 clyde46
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The missle shield is designed to shot down missiles that have been launched from the east.
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#31 Tjeremiah1988
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it mentions this in the bible and people stop saying 2012 nonsense. No man knows the last day.
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[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]How exactly does our missile defense system work? :?markop2003

1. missiles detected by radar or satalite

2. nuke missile shot down with smaller missiles

That doesn't trigger the blast though?

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#33 clyde46
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[QUOTE="markop2003"]

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]How exactly does our missile defense system work? :?Dutch_Mix

1. missiles detected by radar or satalite

2. nuke missile shot down with smaller missiles

That doesn't trigger the blast though?

I dont think so, you need a huge reaction to set off a WMD,

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#34 KG86
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What did Poland do?
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Let's just hope it doesn't come to that...

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#36 hot_juicy_steak
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in sovient russia...poland nukes russia!
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#37 legend26
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welcome ww3!

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Just great...

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[QUOTE="gs_gear"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="gs_gear"]

[QUOTE="Dutch_Mix"]How exactly does our missile defense system work? :?GuardianGI

Russian nuke = bullet

Europe = bulletproof vest

Not exactly, Russian nuclear arsenal greatly overwhelms the shields capabilities, in no way will it stop all of them. At best 1 0r 2. The Russians are angry because there is virtually no difference between a defensive and an offensive system, and the US is known for backing out on promises.

lol you didn't get it

You know what happens to the bulletproof vest after it gets a few bullets.:P


The missile shield isn't a force shield that gets weaker of every nuke that hits it lol.

lol no, but won't be much of a shield after Poland is nuked.
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#40 taj7575
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Russia need's to realize they're not this >http://libcom.org/files/images/library/soviet_propaganda%5B1%5D.jpg

anymore

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Russia need's to realize they're not this >

anymore

taj7575

What has the Soviet Union got to do with anything? It's not as if they want it back.

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#42 taj7575
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[QUOTE="taj7575"]

Russia need's to realize they're not this >

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jointed

What has the Soviet Union got to do with anything? It's not as if they want it back.

Well all these threats and all? Obviously Russia is trying to become a extremely powerful and feared country again.

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[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="taj7575"]

Russia need's to realize they're not this >

anymore

taj7575

What has the Soviet Union got to do with anything? It's not as if they want it back.

Well all these threats and all? Obviously Russia is trying to become a extremely powerful and feared country again.

Of course, but it's more similar to America than the Soviet Union.

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#44 Theokhoth
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What did Poland do?KG86

Played with America instead of Russia.

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#45 gs_gear
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Well can you really blame Russia? It's just surrounded by bad influence. I mean they see the US invading Iraq. So they invade Georgia. They see the US installing their fancy missile shield in Poland so they just want to fire their nukes to test it. :? :P
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They will not nuke no one, unless if some nuke them first.

But if they move their Iskander theater quasi-ballistic missile into Belarus maybe if situation escalates then they could targeted Poland with convectional warheads

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I really dont blame Russia at all, america is a country that cannot be trusted in the slightest and will do whatever they want to suit their own selfish needs.

I hope Russia does make a stand against them, its bout time someone did.

l34052
First of all, WTF are you talking about? Second, they are going after Poland, not the US. Did you even read anything?
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Russia needs to STFU and fully realize that the US is the most supreme power in the universe, then bow to our every wish, which is ultimately to enslave their population and force them to pump every drop of their oil into our SUVs so we can grow even fatter and more slovenly.
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They will not nuke no one, unless if some nuke them first.

But if they move their Iskander theater quasi-ballistic missile into Belarus maybe if situation escalates then they could targeted Poland with convectional warheads

mamkem6

Dude! What's a "convectional warhead"???

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#50 mamkem6
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[QUOTE="mamkem6"]

They will not nuke no one, unless if some nuke them first.

But if they move their Iskander theater quasi-ballistic missile into Belarus maybe if situation escalates then they could targeted Poland with convectional warheads

tocklestein2005

Dude! What's a "convectional warhead"???

Types of warheads include:

  • Explosive: An explosive charge is used to disintegrate the target, and damage surrounding areas with a shock wave.
    • Conventional: Chemicals such as gunpowder and high explosives store significant energy within their molecular bonds. This energy can be released quickly by a trigger, such as an electric spark. Thermobaric weapons are something of a special case.
      • Blast: A strong shock wave is provided by the detonation of the explosive
      • Fragmentation: Metal fragments are projected at high velocity to cause damage or injury.
      • Continuous rod: Metal bars connected on their ends forming a continuous narrow zig-zag ring after ignition - able to cut aerial structures.
      • Shaped charge or explosively formed penetrator: The effect of the explosive charge is focused onto a specially shaped metal liner to project a hypervelocity jet of metal, to perforate heavy armour.
    • Nuclear: A runaway Nuclear fission or Nuclear fusion reaction causes immense energy release.
  • Chemical: A toxic chemical, such as poison gas or nerve gas, is dispersed, which is designed to injure or kill human beings.
  • Biological: An infectious agent, such as anthrax spores, is dispersed, which is designed to sicken or kill humans.
  • Kinetic: Collides the target with high speed. Detonation is not applicable.

Often, a biological or chemical warhead will use an explosive charge for rapid dispersal