[QUOTE="Unassigned"]Now THAT is racist.LJS9502_basic
Racism is the belief that one's race is superior and other races inferior. Demographics =/= racism.
Not exactly, discrimination or prejudice based on race also constitues racism.
My opinion: this was probably done with good intentions but was horribly misguided and ultimately comes across as incredibly patronising. Also, celebrating African-American culture was probably not McDonalds real goal, they obviously had some other incentive.
[QUOTE="Unassigned"]Now THAT is racist.LJS9502_basic
Racism is the belief that one's race is superior and other races inferior. Demographics =/= racism.
Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\ Function: noun Date: 1933 Racism : racial prejudice or discrimination
When private companies advertise/promotes based SOLEY on race (as does that website) that is an act of racism, especially when they do not counter balance with websites which advertise/promotes the other races. A classic sign of liberal guilt.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Unassigned"]Now THAT is racist.Forever_Changes
Racism is the belief that one's race is superior and other races inferior. Demographics =/= racism.
Not exactly, discrimination or prejudice based on race also constitues racism.
My opinion: this was probably done with good intentions but was horribly misguided and ultimately comes across as incredibly patronising. Also, celebrating African-American culture was probably not McDonalds real goal, they obviously had some other incentive.
And by posting a website you are accusing them of discrimination? I've seen all races work in McDonald's so they don't discriminate. Prejudice can't be legislated against in and of itself. It appears as a way for them to reach out to a specific community. Not a big deal. Racism is misused too much....
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Unassigned"]Now THAT is racist.Unassigned
Racism is the belief that one's race is superior and other races inferior. Demographics =/= racism.
Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\ Function: noun Date: 1933 Racism : racial prejudice or discrimination
When private companies advertise/promotes based SOLEY on race (as does that website) that is an act of racism, especially when they do not counter balance with websites which advertise/promotes the other races. A classic sign of liberal guilt.
So now you say all advertisements that McDonald's makes show ONLY one race? That is false.....they want to appeal to everyone. More profit.:roll:
Which dictionary did you use because I got this....
Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.
Racism is the belief that one's race is superior and other races inferior. Demographics =/= racism.LJS9502_basic
Main Entry: rac·ism Pronunciation: \ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-\ Function: noun Date: 1933 Racism : racial prejudice or discrimination
When private companies advertise/promotes based SOLEY on race (as does that website) that is an act of racism, especially when they do not counter balance with websites which advertise/promotes the other races. A classic sign of liberal guilt.
So now you say all advertisements that McDonald's makes show ONLY one race? That is false.....they want to appeal to everyone. More profit.:roll:
Which dictionary did you use because I got this....
Racism is the belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race.
The fact they are promoting a "race" via their "black success stories" can be taken as racist since they are not including other races. They are not stating the race is "better" but they still separate and prmote them from others, that is a racist slant. People who claim that "they celebarate blacks so that means they're not racist" are very misguided, the fact that they celebrate ANY person just because of their color is a racist act in itself.
The fact they are promoting a "race" via their "black success stories" can be taken as racist since they are not including other races. They are not stating the race is "better" but they still separate and prmote them from others, that is a racist slant. People who claim that "they celebarate blacks so that means they're not racist" are very misguided, the fact that they celebrate ANY person just because of their color is a racist act in itself.Unassigned
Or the fact that many McDonald's are located in areas that are predominately black and they want to recruit from those areas means just that. It's not racism unless they are NOT allowing the same work opportunities to other races. They do. /thread
[QUOTE="Unassigned"]The fact they are promoting a "race" via their "black success stories" can be taken as racist since they are not including other races. They are not stating the race is "better" but they still separate and prmote them from others, that is a racist slant. People who claim that "they celebarate blacks so that means they're not racist" are very misguided, the fact that they celebrate ANY person just because of their color is a racist act in itself.LJS9502_basic
Or the fact that many McDonald's are located in areas that are predominately black and they want to recruit from those areas means just that. It's not racism unless they are NOT allowing the same work opportunities to other races. They do. /thread This thread is not talking about their Jobs in certain locations, we're talking about their "black" website. Nice try to back-peddle and save face though.
[QUOTE="Unassigned"]The fact they are promoting a "race" via their "black success stories" can be taken as racist since they are not including other races. They are not stating the race is "better" but they still separate and prmote them from others, that is a racist slant. People who claim that "they celebarate blacks so that means they're not racist" are very misguided, the fact that they celebrate ANY person just because of their color is a racist act in itself.Unassigned
Or the fact that many McDonald's are located in areas that are predominately black and they want to recruit from those areas means just that. It's not racism unless they are NOT allowing the same work opportunities to other races. They do. /thread This thread is not talking about their Jobs in certain locations, we're talking about their "black" website. Nice try to back-peddle and save face though.
oh my god the hypocrisy! You just posted this in the thread regarding microsoft editing a black guy out of a photo and replacing it with a white guy.
It's not racist, it's an advertisement targeted to a specific audience. I would have done the same.Unassigned
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] This thread is not talking about their Jobs in certain locations, we're talking about their "black" website. Nice try to back-peddle and save face though.
oh my god the hypocrisy! You just posted this in the thread regarding microsoft editing a black guy out of a photo and replacing it with a white guy.
It's not racist, it's an advertisement targeted to a specific audience. I would have done the same.Unassigned
dear god.
Targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes is fine in my opinion, but celebrating a race (like that website) is wrong and racist. Two different concepts which allow two different viewpoints.
Targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes is fine in my opinion, but celebrating a race (like that website) is wrong and racist. Two different concepts which allow two different viewpoints.Unassigned
That's true, but making a website dedicated for blacks is racist. And you KNOW if there was a white365.com, there would be people marching in the streets. :|
[QUOTE="Unassigned"]Targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes is fine in my opinion, but celebrating a race (like that website) is wrong and racist. Two different concepts which allow two different viewpoints.Pirate700
That's true, but making a website dedicated for blacks is racist. And you KNOW if there was a white365.com, there would be people marching in the streets. :| Agreed, 100%
Targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes is fine in my opinion, but celebrating a race (like that website) is wrong and racist. Two different concepts which allow two different viewpoints.
Unassigned
So, would it be wrong if someone viewed the McDonalds website as "targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes" instead of "celebrating a race?"
Targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes is fine in my opinion, but celebrating a race (like that website) is wrong and racist. Two different concepts which allow two different viewpoints.
ownage_denied
So, would it be wrong if someone viewed the McDonalds website as "targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes" instead of "celebrating a race?"
Exactly. As a graphic designer, I know about targeting groups. This site is racist, pure and simple. It is PC gone overboard.
Targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes is fine in my opinion, but celebrating a race (like that website) is wrong and racist. Two different concepts which allow two different viewpoints.
Pirate700
So, would it be wrong if someone viewed the McDonalds website as "targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes" instead of "celebrating a race?"
Exactly. As a graphic designer, I know about targeting groups. This site is racist, pure and simple. It is PC gone overboard.It's not racist. They are not putting down the other races. They are targeting a specific demographic with it.:|
So, would it be wrong if someone viewed the McDonalds website as "targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes" instead of "celebrating a race?"
LJS9502_basic
Exactly. As a graphic designer, I know about targeting groups. This site is racist, pure and simple. It is PC gone overboard.It's not racist. They are not putting down the other races. They are targeting a specific demographic with it.:|No targeting a race would be making an ad for McDonalds that shows a black family, or Asian, etc. Making a site DEDICATED to blacks is racist. Again, I have to do this stuff for a living. We would never make something like this. Again, you have to ask, what if this was a whites only site? White365? How would be be perceived?
So, would it be wrong if someone viewed the McDonalds website as "targeting a race for demographic advertising purposes" instead of "celebrating a race?"
LJS9502_basic
Exactly. As a graphic designer, I know about targeting groups. This site is racist, pure and simple. It is PC gone overboard.It's not racist. They are not putting down the other races. They are targeting a specific demographic with it.:|
I agree. I can't see how this could possibly fit the definition of racist.
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Exactly. As a graphic designer, I know about targeting groups. This site is racist, pure and simple. It is PC gone overboard.
Pirate700
It's not racist. They are not putting down the other races. They are targeting a specific demographic with it.:|No targeting a race would be making an ad for McDonalds that shows a black family, or Asian, etc. Making a site DEDICATED to blacks is racist. Again, I have to do this stuff for a living. We would never make something like this. Again, you have to ask, what if this was a whites only site? White365? How would be be perceived?Again....you missed what I said earlier. Many McDonald's are located in black communities. And that is definitely a target demographic for the company. If you want to call McDonald's racist then you have to show me (and others) that McDonald's discriminates based on race. A website for opportunities for a particular race is not discriminating. So....show me they discriminate...and not with ONE website.
Again....you missed what I said earlier. Many McDonald's are located in black communities. And that is definitely a target demographic for the company. If you want to call McDonald's racist then you have to show me (and others) that McDonald's discriminates based on race. A website for opportunities for a particular race is not discriminating. So....show me they discriminate...and not with ONE website.
LJS9502_basic
Then answer my question...how would 365white.come be perceived? Would you be ok with it? Would the American public be ok with it? What about specifically the black community? Would they? How is it not racist for blacks but if it was for whites people would be rioting in the streets trashing McDs?
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Exactly. As a graphic designer, I know about targeting groups. This site is racist, pure and simple. It is PC gone overboard.
Pirate700
It's not racist. They are not putting down the other races. They are targeting a specific demographic with it.:|No targeting a race would be making an ad for McDonalds that shows a black family, or Asian, etc. Making a site DEDICATED to blacks is racist. Again, I have to do this stuff for a living. We would never make something like this. Again, you have to ask, what if this was a whites only site? White365? How would be be perceived?
So, you're basically saying this website is racist because whites wouldn't be able to have one without some calling it racist?
Again....you missed what I said earlier. Many McDonald's are located in black communities. And that is definitely a target demographic for the company. If you want to call McDonald's racist then you have to show me (and others) that McDonald's discriminates based on race. A website for opportunities for a particular race is not discriminating. So....show me they discriminate...and not with ONE website.
Pirate700
Then answer my question...how would 365white.come be perceived? Would you be ok with it? Would the American public be ok with it? What about specifically the black community? Would they? How is it not racist for blacks but if it was for whites people would be rioting in the streets trashing McDs?I'd guess since white culture is already celebrated everywhere McDonald's doesn't see the need. Though this thread does show equality. Just like when Al Sharpton screams about racism that doesn't exist.;)
Again....you missed what I said earlier. Many McDonald's are located in black communities. And that is definitely a target demographic for the company. If you want to call McDonald's racist then you have to show me (and others) that McDonald's discriminates based on race. A website for opportunities for a particular race is not discriminating. So....show me they discriminate...and not with ONE website.
LJS9502_basic
Then answer my question...how would 365white.come be perceived? Would you be ok with it? Would the American public be ok with it? What about specifically the black community? Would they? How is it not racist for blacks but if it was for whites people would be rioting in the streets trashing McDs?I'd guess since white culture is already celebrated everywhere McDonald's doesn't see the need. Though this thread does show equality. Just like when Al Sharpton screams about racism that doesn't exist.;)How is white culture celebrated? I hate that excuse like every day is white history day. You KNOW there is a double standard.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's not racist. They are not putting down the other races. They are targeting a specific demographic with it.:|
ownage_denied
No targeting a race would be making an ad for McDonalds that shows a black family, or Asian, etc. Making a site DEDICATED to blacks is racist. Again, I have to do this stuff for a living. We would never make something like this. Again, you have to ask, what if this was a whites only site? White365? How would be be perceived?
So, you're basically saying this website is racist because whites wouldn't be able to have one without some calling it racist?
I think it would be racist if it was dedicated to any one race. I'm just pointing out the absurdity that it's somehow ok for blacks but not whites.
How is white culture celebrated? I hate that excuse like every day is white history day. You KNOW there is a double standard.
LJS9502_basic
The double standard I'm seeing in this thread is that the race card. I'm seeing it in reverse TBH.Of course the race card is going to be used in a thread about a site dedicated solely to a race. :|
I guess it's just me but I didn't see anything provocative to racism. Well maybe ''black'' but I think it didn't have any ''racism root under it''.:?
Simply I think that black people want to show everyone that there shouldn't be racism. There are some magazines and other things that somehow may insult black people, so they made their own.
How is white culture celebrated? I hate that excuse like every day is white history day. You KNOW there is a double standard.
Pirate700
The double standard I'm seeing in this thread is that the race card. I'm seeing it in reverse TBH.Of course the race card is going to be used in a thread about a site dedicated solely to blacks. :|Yes and when it's used by other races it's considered a terrible thing. But okay in this instance. Double standards much?
Note; I'm not talking about anyone specifically here....
I guess it's just me but I didn't see anything provocative to racism. Well maybe ''black'' but I think it didn't have any ''racism root under it''.:?
Simply I think that black people want to show everyone that there shouldn't be racism. There are some magazines and other things that somehow may insult black people, so they made their own.
philosophy666
Can you name us one white's only magazine? I sure can't.
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]No targeting a race would be making an ad for McDonalds that shows a black family, or Asian, etc. Making a site DEDICATED to blacks is racist. Again, I have to do this stuff for a living. We would never make something like this. Again, you have to ask, what if this was a whites only site? White365? How would be be perceived?
Pirate700
So, you're basically saying this website is racist because whites wouldn't be able to have one without some calling it racist?
I think it would be racist if it was dedicated to any one race. I'm just pointing out the absurdity that it's somehow ok for blacks but not whites. Who said it wouldn't be okay for whites? Just because certain race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson would cry doesn't mean the majority would think it's racist. This simply does not fit the definition of racist.
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]The double standard I'm seeing in this thread is that the race card. I'm seeing it in reverse TBH.
LJS9502_basic
Of course the race card is going to be used in a thread about a site dedicated solely to blacks. :|Yes and when it's used by other races it's considered a terrible thing. But okay in this instance. Double standards much?
Note; I'm not talking about anyone specifically here....
If there was 365whites.com, I would expect blacks to be angered because it's absurd to have a site for a major company dedicated to a specific race.
So, you're basically saying this website is racist because whites wouldn't be able to have one without some calling it racist?
ownage_denied
I think it would be racist if it was dedicated to any one race. I'm just pointing out the absurdity that it's somehow ok for blacks but not whites. Who said it wouldn't be okay for whites? Just because certain race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson would cry doesn't mean the majority would think it's racist. This simply does not fit the definition of racist.A major corperation could never, EVER get away with white365.com and you know it.
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]Of course the race card is going to be used in a thread about a site dedicated solely to blacks. :|
Pirate700
Yes and when it's used by other races it's considered a terrible thing. But okay in this instance. Double standards much?
Note; I'm not talking about anyone specifically here....
If there was 365whites.com, I would expect blacks to be angered because it's absurd to have a site for a major company dedicated to a specific race.McDonald's is not dedicated to a specific race.:|
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes and when it's used by other races it's considered a terrible thing. But okay in this instance. Double standards much?
Note; I'm not talking about anyone specifically here....
LJS9502_basic
If there was 365whites.com, I would expect blacks to be angered because it's absurd to have a site for a major company dedicated to a specific race.McDonald's is not dedicated to a specific race.:|Did I say they were? I said they have a site dedicated to them.
[QUOTE="ownage_denied"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]I think it would be racist if it was dedicated to any one race. I'm just pointing out the absurdity that it's somehow ok for blacks but not whites.
Pirate700
Who said it wouldn't be okay for whites? Just because certain race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson would cry doesn't mean the majority would think it's racist. This simply does not fit the definition of racist.A major corperation could never, EVER get away with white365.com and you know it. It doesn't matter if they could "get away" with it. What matters is if it fits the definition of racist. In this case that would be a no.
[QUOTE="Pirate700"]If there was 365whites.com, I would expect blacks to be angered because it's absurd to have a site for a major company dedicated to a specific race.
Pirate700
McDonald's is not dedicated to a specific race.:|Did I say they were? I said they have a site dedicated to them.And McDonald's has more than one site.....
[QUOTE="ownage_denied"] Who said it wouldn't be okay for whites? Just because certain race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson would cry doesn't mean the majority would think it's racist. This simply does not fit the definition of racist.ownage_denied
A major corperation could never, EVER get away with white365.com and you know it. It doesn't matter if they could "get away" with it. What matters is if it fits the definition of racist. In this case that would be a no.That is correct. While it may offend those of other races...this is not racism.
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