Radical Muslims who attempted to murder get just 2/4/5 years (UK)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1391166/Four-Muslims-battered-man-teaching-RE-girls-jailed-danger-extreme-religious-beliefs.html

"Armed with a metal rod and a brick, they punched, kicked and attacked Mr Smith, leaving him unconscious and covered in blood on the pavement"

"Mr Smith suffered multiple injuries, including lacerations and bruising all over his body, has a permanent 12cm long deep scar across his left cheek, and how the whole of the facial part of his skull was broken"

"doing it for the sake of Allah."

"His injuries have left him unable to be the active and healthy man he once was and he has had to give up his passion for martial arts.

He suffers from depression and anxiety and 'is unable to enjoy life and lives in constant fear of being attacked again'"

'This is the dog we want to hit, to strike, to kill.'

Isn't attempted murder typically 5 years?

Isn't attempted murder typically 5 years?

Blue-Sky

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Isn't attempted murder typically 5 years?

Inconsistancy

good old western civilization. We allow this BS.

Isn't attempted murder typically 5 years?

Blue-Sky

[QUOTE="Inconsistancy"][QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Isn't attempted murder typically 5 years?

mattbbpl

Where did you get the attempt murder bit from? Granted, I've only scanned the article, but surely if they'd wanted to murder the guy, they could have. jimmyjammer69

Why isn't the punishment for 'attempted' murder the same as murder, if the intent is th e same.. it's just as bad.Inconsistancy

This was GBH with intent, not attempt murder. It's a fairly typical sentence.jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Where did you get the attempt murder bit from? Granted, I've only scanned the article, but surely if they'd wanted to murder the guy, they could have. CannedWorms

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]This was GBH with intent, not attempt murder. It's a fairly typical sentence.CannedWorms

Scum that is perverting religion to their own primal, bestial rage gets none of my sympathies.

[QUOTE="CannedWorms"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Where did you get the attempt murder bit from? Granted, I've only scanned the article, but surely if they'd wanted to murder the guy, they could have. jimmyjammer69

Slap on the wrist. They should have been charged with a hate crime, assault + battery, assault with a deadly weapon and the guy should sue for damages. This is definitely not something that should receive lenient sentencing. It can only encourage others to do the same thing when it carries such a light sentence. Extremists give up their lives for less.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="CannedWorms"]I know you like to ignore such brutality when it suits your agenda, but luckily there is actually a quote where you don't need to read between the lines and apply common sense. "saying they wanted to hit or kill him"CannedWorms

[QUOTE="CannedWorms"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]My agenda? :lol: I'm not the guy with an israeli flag as my avatar. It's cute that you think know the facts of the case and English law better than the judge, lawyers and jury who actually heard the case. As it stands, you should change your title because it's blatantly misleading.jimmyjammer69

'This is the dog we want to hit, to strike, to kill.'

Attempted murder. It's a simple definition. Understand it please.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="CannedWorms"]I'm not ignoring anything, so my conscience is clear. I don't know law because I don't need to. This was attempted murder, simple as that. So, did you not read the quote? They were caught saying they wanted to KILL him. That is the very definition of attempted murder. Just because UK law gives criminals more rights than the public doesn't mean I'm wrong.CannedWorms

'This is the dog we want to hit, to strike, to kill.'

Attempted murder. It's a simple definition. Understand it please.

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]You're right, you don't know the law here, so stop trying to pull it out of your posterior. If the CPS didn't prosecute for attempt murder, it's not attempt murder.jimmyjammer69

'This is the dog we want to hit, to strike, to kill.'

Attempted murder. It's a simple definition. Understand it please.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

Isn't attempted murder typically 5 years?

Inconsistancy

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="CannedWorms"]I'm not ignoring anything, so my conscience is clear. I don't know law because I don't need to. This was attempted murder, simple as that. So, did you not read the quote? They were caught saying they wanted to KILL him. That is the very definition of attempted murder. Just because UK law gives criminals more rights than the public doesn't mean I'm wrong.CannedWorms

'This is the dog we want to hit, to strike, to kill.'

Attempted murder. It's a simple definition. Understand it please.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="CannedWorms"]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8538804/Men-who-beat-up-RE-teacher-were-terrorist-suspects.html

'This is the dog we want to hit, to strike, to kill.'

Attempted murder. It's a simple definition. Understand it please.

CannedWorms

Are you still trying to use the UK law, the same law that has pissed on the on the rights of the victims for years, as the definition to what constitutes as attempted murder? Use common sense and this is clearly attempted murder. In fact I couldn't find a better example if I tried.CannedWorms

Are you still trying to use the UK law, the same law that has pissed on the on the rights of the victims for years, as the definition to what constitutes as attempted murder? Use common sense and this is clearly attempted murder. In fact I couldn't find a better example if I tried.CannedWorms

There is a deffinition for attempted murder (i presume) and he prosecutor decided that this didn't met the deffinition. So it was tried for was it actually was.

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]You're right, you don't know the law here, so stop trying to pull it out of your posterior. If the CPS didn't prosecute for attempt murder, it's not attempt murder.Ninja-Hippo

'This is the dog we want to hit, to strike, to kill.'

Attempted murder. It's a simple definition. Understand it please.

"Akmol Hussein was heard setting out the plan to attack Mr Smith, head of religious education at Central Foundation Girls' School in Bow, east London, saying in a Bangladeshi dialect:"

So what we've actually got is the Telegraph's interpretation of a translation from a Bangladeshi dialect. I'm guessing they used the three verbs - 'hit, beat, kill' because the word used in Bangladeshi can conceivably carry all three connotations. But then again, what the hell do I know? I'm not a specialist on Bangladeshi, nor am I a UK legal specialist, and we've only got the few facts two notoriously biased right wing papers have chosen to print to chew on.

LOL, I bet you couldn't. I understand you hate Britain, and that's why you're venting spleen at me, but could you please change your misleading title.

jimmyjammer69

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]LOL, I bet you couldn't. I understand you hate Britain, and that's why you're venting spleen at me, but could you please change your misleading title.

CannedWorms

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]LOL, I bet you couldn't. I understand you hate Britain, and that's why you're venting spleen at me, but could you please change your misleading title.

CannedWorms

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[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]LOL, I bet you couldn't. I understand you hate Britain, and that's why you're venting spleen at me, but could you please change your misleading title.

jimmyjammer69

poor guy, they should have served more in jail ..... but I bet there is more to this story, the teacher must have had said something absured about Islam which still doesn't justify what they did.

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="CannedWorms"]*yawn* I bet you love this spineless country for it's civil rights obsession. I live in Britain and I am a Christian so no, I don't hate Britain. I do hate modern Britain though.

CannedWorms

Why am I not surprised to see that the OP is the guy with the Israel flag as his avatar.

[QUOTE="CannedWorms"][QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"]Great, so move somewhere that suits your ideals, as you'd probably demand all muslims do.BuryMe

[QUOTE="jimmyjammer69"][QUOTE="CannedWorms"]*yawn* I bet you love this spineless country for it's civil rights obsession. I live in Britain and I am a Christian so no, I don't hate Britain. I do hate modern Britain though.

CannedWorms

They talked about killing him and the injuries they caused could have killed him. Attempted murder in my eyes and most rational people I imagine.CannedWorms