Rap Music Rules!

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"]It saddens me as I see proof (teenagers) of how many people today are naive to the true talent of musical composition. Listen and if you say "Rap is teh roxxors, and pwns your link", then I pity you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1i_2HYmJkAOrlando_Magic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5toE_Yj8rOc

rap iz teh roxxorz, check out yo boi Carlos Santana

Not a bad song...but I don't find myself a fan a many of Santana's new material. He has strayed a bit away from his more Latin sound in Rock music

[QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"]It saddens me as I see proof (teenagers) of how many people today are naive to the true talent of musical composition. Listen and if you say "Rap is teh roxxors, and pwns your link", then I pity you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1i_2HYmJkACarlos_Santana

rap focuses on the lyrics just as much as it does on the production but just because producers don't use traditional instruments doesn't make their work any less amazing.

http://www.myspace.com/12204303

click the link and listen to walk like a man and tell me that doesn't take talent to make. the lyrics(the way he paints a picture in your head) and the production which matches the tone of each "chapter" perfectly

But something I prefer about Classical music and Rock music is the change in songs. Many song I like contain overtures, followed by songs that will sometimes change the scales, speed and sometimes can easily flow into a much more different sound. For instance, Eric Clapton hit with Derek And The Dominos' "Layla" ,which starts out with electric D minor, but ends with a Piano coda in major, which was beautifully flowed into.

Rock music isn't as hard to write as Classical Music, however there are usually more instruments which have to be composed for.Rap does have some improvisation, on the other hand. Classical music has VERY little, which I consider to be a minor flaw. Rock music tends to contain the most.

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="Undoing_Ruin"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"]It saddens me as I see proof (teenagers) of how many people today are naive to the true talent of musical composition. Listen and if you say "Rap is teh roxxors, and pwns your link", then I pity you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1i_2HYmJkAUndoing_Ruin

I do not. Anyone can play that type of music.

I believe that is a false statement

Learning an instrument to the degree of someone such as Andres Segovia or John Williams takes extreme commitment and dedication, and simply a true love and passion for music, which I believe not EVERYONE has.

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="mems_1224"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"]It saddens me as I see proof (teenagers) of how many people today are naive to the true talent of musical composition. Listen and if you say "Rap is teh roxxors, and pwns your link", then I pity you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1i_2HYmJkATheHimura

rap focuses on the lyrics just as much as it does on the production but just because producers don't use traditional instruments doesn't make their work any less amazing.

http://www.myspace.com/12204303

click the link and listen to walk like a man and tell me that doesn't take talent to make. the lyrics(the way he paints a picture in your head) and the production which matches the tone of each "chapter" perfectly

But something I prefer about Classical music and Rock music is the change in songs. Many song I like contain overtures, followed by songs that will sometimes change the scales, speed and sometimes can easily flow into a much more different sound. For instance, Eric Clapton hit with Derek And The Dominos' "Layla" ,which starts out with electric D minor, but ends with a Piano coda in major, which was beautifully flowed into.

Rock music isn't as hard to write as Classical Music, however there are usually more instruments which have to be composed for.Rap does have some improvisation, on the other hand. Classical music has VERY little, which I consider to be a minor flaw. Rock music tends to contain the most.

There was a link, but whenever it was clicked on, there was no threa and an "error" web-page. I'm going to fix it when a legendary OT thread comes along.

[QUOTE="Undoing_Ruin"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="Undoing_Ruin"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"]It saddens me as I see proof (teenagers) of how many people today are naive to the true talent of musical composition. Listen and if you say "Rap is teh roxxors, and pwns your link", then I pity you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1i_2HYmJkACarlos_Santana

I do not. Anyone can play that type of music.

I believe that is a false statement

Learning an instrument to the degree of someone such as Andres Segovia or John Williams takes extreme commitment and dedication, and simply a true love and passion for music, which I believe not EVERYONE has.

I believe that playing that music takes practice only, not talent.

Composing it takes a musical ear, but I believe that it's the least talented type of music. 

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="Undoing_Ruin"]

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="Undoing_Ruin"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"][QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"]It saddens me as I see proof (teenagers) of how many people today are naive to the true talent of musical composition. Listen and if you say "Rap is teh roxxors, and pwns your link", then I pity you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1i_2HYmJkAUndoing_Ruin

I do not. Anyone can play that type of music.

I believe that is a false statement

Learning an instrument to the degree of someone such as Andres Segovia or John Williams takes extreme commitment and dedication, and simply a true love and passion for music, which I believe not EVERYONE has.

I believe that playing that music takes practice only, not talent.

Composing it takes a musical ear, but I believe that it's the least talented type of music. 

Good composing requires:

Creativity

Innovation

Emotion

Not everybody is born with the ability to compose music to the degree of creativity and innovation like Claude DeBussy or Syd Barrett. And playing an istrument is learned. So is Rapping. Rap required speaking a language. Language is learned. It takes practice to learn a language. You aren't "born" speaking English.

Lyrics are hard to write, and Music itself is a language. Think about the similarities:

Language evolved. Language has grew into numerous and more similar languages. Spanish and English evolved from Latin. Music evolved. Rock Music and Rap Music were heavily evolved from Blues. There are much more Musical Genres today, than when Music was first being discovered.

So, to my point, Actual music and lyrics aren't as diverse as you think. Just because some music isn't spoken with the mouth doesn't mean it is talentless.

Proof::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61mqcicqp8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-u_QijkXwU

 

See what i mean?

 

bartondemon

Either you're trying to be sarcastic or you actually are a serious braindead MTV, BET brainwashed Fool.

Regardless, they both suck -ss and they both PROVE that it doesn't take talent to make millions of dollars in the Mainstream cRap Industry.

Old-school Rap is the best...2pac,NWA,Dr.Dre,Eazy-e,SnoopDoggyDog...ah,you wouldn't know...SoulKillah

No.

No It Does Not. 

Some is good, Like the Blue Scholars, most of it sucks though.

But Punk Goes Crunk is an awesome album :P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punk_Goes_Crunk

Rap is comin' pretty strong this year, don't care what the haters say...

[QUOTE="SoulKillah"]Old-school Rap is the best...2pac,NWA,Dr.Dre,Eazy-e,SnoopDoggyDog...ah,you wouldn't know...RogerC44

Not exactly old-school, but yeah, those are some great ones.

[QUOTE="Carlos_Santana"]It saddens me as I see proof (teenagers) of how many people today are naive to the true talent of musical composition. Listen and if you say "Rap is teh roxxors, and pwns your link", then I pity you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1i_2HYmJkACarlos_Santana

I and many other Hip-Hop fans listen to a lot of other musical genres however we can still recognise the value in a lot of Hip-Hop.

Here's a pretty astounding lyical Hip-Hop performance:

Organized Konfusion - Prisoners of War

I think Prince Po keeps us with Monch on that track.

Organized Konfusion - Releasing Hypnotical Gases

And here's my favourite track from one of my favourite rappers:

Big Daddy Kane - Set It Off

Turn it up!

"if you are what you eat, they're feeding me dope"

Proof::

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D61mqcicqp8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-u_QijkXwU

See what i mean?

bartondemon

Eminem's "Stan" is one of the greatest rap songs ever. T.I. is awful.

that is probbaly the worst example you could give...

anyway i like rap music, but i like listening to R&B and some soft rock as well

"hurr rap is not music its about sex n drugs listen to classic rock hurr im 15 years old"

Anyway yes I do like hip hop. However, to get the good stuff outta the genre these days you gotta go underground or alternative, with artists such as MF DOOM, Deltron 3030, and Jurassic 5.

Rap music sucks ass.illmatikkk

Totally agree with you there mate. Its not even music its noise pollution, plus all they do is talk really fast with words that rhyme

[QUOTE="illmatikkk"]Rap music sucks ass.Heavy_Metal_Guy

Totally agree with you there mate. Its not even music its noise pollution, plus all they do is talk really fast with words that rhyme

This is rap that does not suck.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=U9UI-m-Qd8s

Do you expect positive results from this thread in this forum?Shatin

Yes.

Lil' Wayne is the greatest ever.

Sorry to break it to some of you people but Hip-Hop/Rap is music. Whether you say so or not.bradleybhoy

It's just the crazy metal kids rebelling against society (who claim it not to be music), so there's nothing to worry about. Some of them will turn out alright...Eventually.

Rap is not music.SmashBrosLegend

maybe not the stuff you listen to (aka "radio rap") but there is a lot of good stuff out there, and it is most definately music.

Yeeea here is some good stuff. First song is chill, second song makes you want to kick some ass, and the third song is just funny. Bad language!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=2PFlij7kP7E&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=AoWnt6NIeaM&feature=related

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6zNOgTqYRg0&feature=related

Fort Minor

Jay-Z

Kanye

Lupe

those guys are honestly great rappers and their lyrics are awesome

[QUOTE="bradleybhoy"]Sorry to break it to some of you people but Hip-Hop/Rap is music. Whether you say so or not.TallicaFan2005

It's just the crazy metal kids rebelling against society (who claim it not to be music), so there's nothing to worry about. Some of them will turn out alright...Eventually.

On the internet, Metal/Rock is the clear winner.
DJ-PRIME90

i think overall population as well. if u think of it only kids and teens listen to this new **** most ppl listen to old rock or metal still