Reason Why Current Teaching Methods Can't Capture Students' Attention

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#51 3riForce
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As long as you have an entertaining teacher, who's charismatic or funny or knows how to inject any subject with enthusiasm and passion, that will hook students and captivate them, and that teacher could make... idk... statistics an enjoyable lecture.
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#52 theone86
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I think there's some merit to APET, but I don't think it's an all-encompassing explanation and I don't think your proposal would make a huge impact. The reason I say the second part is because I don't know that trying to have education mimick entertainment is the best idea. Yes, it may engage more students, but it also alters the learning experience. You absorb information differently when you're readin than when you're watching a video. In the latter you're a passive observer, while in the former you need to be directly engaged with the learning material. I'm all for making video games themselves more educational. I loved all the information in Assassin's Creed II not just about historical figures but locations and famous buildings, but I don't think that's what our educational process should resemble.

As to factors that this theory doesn't take into account, the most obvious that stands out to me is poverty. Students in districts with lower funding test consistently lower than those who go to well-funded schools. Secondly, I believe that we are continually lowering standards. The length of books that are read seems to be far shorter than thirty or forty years ago, and I have heard more than a few teachers lament that students no longer read the classics in high school. Sometimes we are not even enforcing the standards we have in place. When I was in high school I managed to bypass the secondary language requirement by taking an autos class. I think that was a mistake, no matter what profession you go into a second language is a valuable skill not only in everyday practicality but in increasing retention ability to a degree, but in our educational system we've taken this ridiculous outlook that if it's hard, then just drop the students into some vocational class.

I also feel that education has become an ideoloigcal battlefield for many, and this is to the ultimate disadvantage of students. I understand if you want to tell your children at home that dinosaurs never existed, the earth is 2000 years old, and evolution is a fraud. I think it becomes a different matter, however, when you teach things such as that in a classroom. Like it or not, the educational system is supposed to aspire to some level of objectivity. Perhaps there isn't a complete level of certainty with some of the things that are taught, but they are the vast consensus by professionals in their respective fields. That is the essence of the scientific process and respected knowledge gathering, and by teaching children in a classroom to ignore overwhelming evidence because of religious beliefs is irresponsible. It embeds an attitude of total relativity in children, tells them that whatever subjective opinions they may have are just as valid as any opinions with actual substantiation.

Finally, I think you hit on part of the issue, which is getting children engaged. I know this is harder at younger ages, as children are in a developmental stage that doesn't readily allow for complex differentiation. However, I don't think this necessarily needs to impede engagement, you can still talk to children about the subjects that they might eventually study that might transfer to a profession they show interest in, you can still tell them the purpose of learning certain things instead of simply treating them like a piggy bank, into which you insert coins of knowledge.

In the later years this becomes easier. For one, it means not simply taking a cirriculum-based appraoch, it means in addition taking the time to critically engage students in all aubjects. This could mean speaking about geometry's utility in architecture, statistics' utility in Poly Sci or Sociology, or the long history of great philosophers and mathematics. I think it also means expanding the cirriculum, bringing entry level college courses into the high school cirriculum, and allowing those courses to bleed through into other high school courses. Critical engagement doesn't just meaning bringing the material into a medium that students are more familiar with, it means opening students' minds to new mediums that they aren't familiar with by showing them the scope of the material.

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#53 0Tyler0
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That sounds kind of obvious "Kids don't pay attention, so lets make it more exciting!" How though
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#54 LaytonsCat
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Its called trying and caring, if you do both you can easily do well

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#55 rpgs_shall_rule
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Its called trying and caring, if you do both you can easily do well

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Lol, with our education system, you don't need either.

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#56 MrGeezer
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Perhaps the fault lies with the student and not the teacher...particularly attitudes and values. People will be more inclined to work hard and pay attention when they value something. A vast majority of students do not value school and treat it as a burden. Your analogy discusses a time when students read...that somehow that was the cause of their increased attention in class. I would say that could not be further from the truth. At that time, education was a privilege and not a right. Students and families valued and appreciated the education they received. Now it is seen as a right. One has to look no further than first generation immigrants. Aside from language issues, they are often the best 'students' (which is different than top scores) in a class. This is b/c they value and appreciate their education, their families understand just how important it is, and they all understand that it is not a 'right' around the world. tl;dr Blame a change in attitudes more than anything else ...look no further than the OP stating that it is the teacher's job to grab the student's attention and not the student's job to learn what is presented rawsavon

I agree with this 100%.

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#57 MrGeezer
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If I was taught everything in a way relevant to my interests, I would have been a straight-A student. Math is really, really difficult for me, numbers are not my friends. But two of my hobbies include and/or are based around math. If they could have taught me via those hobbies, I'd have done way better.XilePrincess

Or...couldn't you have used your love of those hobbies to help you learn more about math?

It's just like...a classroom will often have one teacher and an assload of students. How REALISTIC is it to expect that teacher to alter his/her teaching methods to be specifically tailored to every single student's individual personality? Sure...your teachers could have taught you via your hobbies. But that'd be at the detriment of everyone other than you, i'd imagine.

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#58 F1_2004
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Kids need to be taught the cold hard facts of life; that everything is not equal to playing video games, and you need to work. I say get them to do more work and get them used to doing hard work, rather than try to turn everything into a video game. There's plenty of textile mills that need little hands to do the cleaning!
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#59 DarnUniverse
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Not all kids have the same hobbies and interests, though. And since some schools class sizes are so large, each kid can't get the attention that's required to be taught through whatever interests they may have.

That being said, I think it's up to the parents to make sure education and homework comes first. If a kid is doing terrible in school I don't think the parents are paying enough attention.