Religion is a racket, we should be taxing them like every other business

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#1 PrimordialMeme
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Article.

We should tax them on every dollar (other than those accounted directly going to charity costs).

Agree or disagree?

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#2 rimnet00
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Why? They don't make a profit.
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#3 PrimordialMeme
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Why? They don't make a profit.rimnet00

Of course they do.

What do you mean?

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#4 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Why? They don't make a profit.PrimordialMeme

Of course they do.

What do you mean?

Since when have churches made a profit? :|

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#5 PrimordialMeme
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Since when have churches made a profit? :|

rimnet00

Ever since they existed! :lol:

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#6 JiveT
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Look at that dude with the megachurch down in Atlanta and tell me he's not making a profit. Got a frigging compound a Colombian cartel leader would be envious of.
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#7 The_Ish
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Why? They don't make a profit.rimnet00

Of course they do.

You don't really believe these people live like hobos for God, do you?

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#8 Boring_Bland
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Sure why not.

Infact, let's put 'em out of business:D

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#9 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"]

Since when have churches made a profit? :|

PrimordialMeme

Ever since they existed! :lol:

I should rephrase that to an economic profit.

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#10 Ze_ALEX
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you know what the OT needs? another religion thread
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#11 PrimordialMeme
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[QUOTE="PrimordialMeme"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

Since when have churches made a profit? :|

rimnet00

Ever since they existed! :lol:

I should rephrase that to an economic profit.

You are confused. They make an economic profit, but you are equating their privately run business with a public corporation wherein profits are shared and fully disclosed. These people aren't taxed and get plates of cash and checks every weekend with no solid accounting of it, its a total racket.

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#12 Donkey_Puncher
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[QUOTE="PrimordialMeme"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

Since when have churches made a profit? :|

rimnet00

Ever since they existed! :lol:

I should rephrase that to an economic profit.

Look no further than Telavangelists and the evangelical megachurches. They make GOOD money.

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#13 rimnet00
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[QUOTE="rimnet00"][QUOTE="PrimordialMeme"][QUOTE="rimnet00"]

Since when have churches made a profit? :|

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Ever since they existed! :lol:

I should rephrase that to an economic profit.

Look no further than Telavangelists and the evangelical megachurches. They make GOOD money.

Really? I didn't know. I don't really know about those two categories to be completely honest. I'm thinking of traditional places of worship.

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#14 chrisrooR
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why not? they are places that deal with large sums of money.
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#15 Rhythmic_
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Thankfully, unlike you, our politicians in Washington at least have respect for religion, something that billions of people hold dear. That is why you will never be making public policy...intollerance and lack of respect. Just because you happen to believe churches and religion are a "racket" does not make it ok for you to impose that belief on the vast religious majority in this country. And by the way, since you people are always ranting and raving about this, taxing churches would be violation of separation between church and state in its purest form. It works both ways, kid.

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#16 jetpower3
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[QUOTE="PrimordialMeme"]

[QUOTE="rimnet00"]Why? They don't make a profit.rimnet00

Of course they do.

What do you mean?

Since when have churches made a profit? :|

Have you forgotten why the Protestant sect was formed?

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Thankfully, unlike you, our politicians in Washington at least have respect for religion, something that billions of people hold dear. That is why you will never be making public policy...intollerance and lack of respect. Just because you happen to believe churches and religion are a "racket" does not make it ok for you to impose that belief on the vast religious majority in this country. And by the way, since you people are always ranting and raving about this, taxing churches would be violation of separation between church and state in its purest form. It works both ways, kid.

Rhythmic_

You just contradicted yourself. Separation of Church and State was an ideal meant to keep religion out of policy making or politics. That means there shouldn't be any tax exemptions. Churches make money, more money than they need, and that is a profit the US government should be able to tax, just like any other business.

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#18 JiveT
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I am against giving the government money for anything. If these churches want to bilk people out of their cash selling salvation that's fine by me. Just don't claim some moral high ground.
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#19 SaintLeonidas
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LOL i just watch a Goerge Carlin thing the other day about the Church making billions and they are greedy bastards cause no matter how much they make they always want a little more.
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#20 LJS9502_basic
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I disagree. If you want to tax a business...tax the hospitals and universities.
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#21 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="Rhythmic_"]

Thankfully, unlike you, our politicians in Washington at least have respect for religion, something that billions of people hold dear. That is why you will never be making public policy...intollerance and lack of respect. Just because you happen to believe churches and religion are a "racket" does not make it ok for you to impose that belief on the vast religious majority in this country. And by the way, since you people are always ranting and raving about this, taxing churches would be violation of separation between church and state in its purest form. It works both ways, kid.

The_Ish

You just contradicted yourself. Separation of Church and State was an ideal meant to keep religion out of policy making or politics. That means there shouldn't be any tax exemptions. Churches make money, more money than they need, and that is a profit the US government should be able to tax, just like any other business.

How about some proof to this major profit.

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[QUOTE="Rhythmic_"]

Thankfully, unlike you, our politicians in Washington at least have respect for religion, something that billions of people hold dear. That is why you will never be making public policy...intollerance and lack of respect. Just because you happen to believe churches and religion are a "racket" does not make it ok for you to impose that belief on the vast religious majority in this country. And by the way, since you people are always ranting and raving about this, taxing churches would be violation of separation between church and state in its purest form. It works both ways, kid.

The_Ish

You just contradicted yourself. Separation of Church and State was an ideal meant to keep religion out of policy making or politics. That means there shouldn't be any tax exemptions. Churches make money, more money than they need, and that is a profit the US government should be able to tax, just like any other business.

Exactly...it also means policy should not be made regarding churches, like tax policy. Separation of church and state is also to keep the churches free from the affairs of the state, but people often forget that part. Taxes are something that are instated as policy, therefore churches are left out of them. Argue whatever you want though.

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#23 jetpower3
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I disagree. If you want to tax a business...tax the hospitals and universities.LJS9502_basic

It looks like it may come to that, with the way things are going.

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#24 branketra
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Who do we tax? Churches? Mosques? The Dalai Lama? It'd be like the old English days of the corrupt kings.
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#25 RiSkyBiZ-13
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I can't speak for other religions, but I know Catholocism goes by donations to the church. The priests live off barely any money at all, they have virtually no worldly possesions. Why take more away from them? (again, I'm only speaking of the Catholic Church)
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#26 wemhim
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Nah, I'd rather focus on taxing less people, rather than focusing on taxing more.
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Churches don't have the money to be taxed. Take your athiest drivel somewhere else.
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[QUOTE="The_Ish"][QUOTE="Rhythmic_"]

Thankfully, unlike you, our politicians in Washington at least have respect for religion, something that billions of people hold dear. That is why you will never be making public policy...intollerance and lack of respect. Just because you happen to believe churches and religion are a "racket" does not make it ok for you to impose that belief on the vast religious majority in this country. And by the way, since you people are always ranting and raving about this, taxing churches would be violation of separation between church and state in its purest form. It works both ways, kid.

LJS9502_basic

You just contradicted yourself. Separation of Church and State was an ideal meant to keep religion out of policy making or politics. That means there shouldn't be any tax exemptions. Churches make money, more money than they need, and that is a profit the US government should be able to tax, just like any other business.

How about some proof to this major profit.

Jerry Falwell.

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#29 wemhim
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Churches don't have the money to be taxed. Take your athiest drivel somewhere else.Guiltfeeder566
I'm an Atheist, and I said they shouldn't be taxed...
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#30 LJS9502_basic
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Jerry Falwell.

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That isn't actually proof...that's a name.:lol:

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#31 taker42
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The money is going to come from the church goers anyway. Why not just cut to the chase and just increase taxes?
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I can't speak for other religions, but I know Catholocism goes by donations to the church. The priests live off barely any money at all, they have virtually no worldly possesions. Why take more away from them? (again, I'm only speaking of the Catholic Church)RiSkyBiZ-13

Isn't the Vatican state one of the richest countries in the world?

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[QUOTE="RiSkyBiZ-13"]I can't speak for other religions, but I know Catholocism goes by donations to the church. The priests live off barely any money at all, they have virtually no worldly possesions. Why take more away from them? (again, I'm only speaking of the Catholic Church)RationalAtheist

Isn't the Vatican state one of the richest countries in the world?

the pope is secretly jewish.