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[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]That's because of this Reverend Wright thing. Once that blows over and he secures the nomination, that'll probably go back to Pre-Wright polling.
SmashBrosLegend
It might take longer than you think for it to blow over though. Pundits like O'Reilly and Limbaugh have been digging through all of his sermons, and pulling out hundreds of racist quotes. His links to Farrakhan won't help either.
And then you've also got Obama's links to the likes of Rezko and Ayers. Those links, bogus or otherwise and coupled with the Wright issues, will be exploited by the GOP 100 times more than they were by Clinton.
There are some 7 months of time to change the subject. It'll shift.
If she actually beats Obama after this I will have no faith left in my fellow Americans.
Jesus Christ this woman is such a terrible liar...
If she actually beats Obama after this I will have no faith left in my fellow Americans.
Jesus Christ this woman is such a terrible liar...
Thechaninator
Oboma's worse I don't want some unpatriotic president
beside I want McClain to win it
[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]If she actually beats Obama after this I will have no faith left in my fellow Americans.
Jesus Christ this woman is such a terrible liar...
coltscardfan
Oboma's worse I don't want some unpatriotic president
beside I want McClain to win it
Obama and McCain, thanks.
I think Obama deserves it because he is more proffesional then hillary, hillary likes to hit below the belt and at least I haven't seen Obama do that yet.mark4091
Ur sig made me :lol:
[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]If she actually beats Obama after this I will have no faith left in my fellow Americans.
Jesus Christ this woman is such a terrible liar...
coltscardfan
Oboma's worse I don't want some unpatriotic president
beside I want McClain to win it
Oh yes look what flag-loving Bush has done for us!!!
Jesus Christ Patriotism is so unimportant. As long as they don't hate the country and actually care to make it better then thats fine. In fact overly patriotic people disgust the hell out of me....
Democrats are screwed
If Oboma win probley half of the democrats are voting for McClain cause hes unpatrotic
whoose is going to vote for Hillery Clinton
so i am guesing McClain is going to win it
coltscardfan
I honestly think there is a good chance that they will loose... If either Clinton or Obama had dropped out earlier they would have steamrollered the rednecks without batting an eyelash. All this infighting means victory for the GOP.
The thing I really don't understand about Hillary Clinton's lying is thiss...
What does she think she's getting out of it? Lying that she played soccer at a High School that didn't have a soccer team? Why tell this lie? It doesn't help you in the political field at all... Saying she was under fire by a sniper in Bosnia (supposedly to appear tougher)? Why exagerate when just going to Bosnia is good enough to convince people that you aren't afraid to visit dangerous areas?
If you're going to exagerate or lie, at least make the lie impressive or worthwhile...
[QUOTE="coltscardfan"]Oboma's worse I don't want some unpatriotic president
beside I want McClain to win it
SmashBrosLegend
Obama and McCain, thanks.
No, he was talking about John McClane from the Die Hard movies. :P
[QUOTE="Thechaninator"]If she actually beats Obama after this I will have no faith left in my fellow Americans.
Jesus Christ this woman is such a terrible liar...
coltscardfan
Oboma's worse I don't want some unpatriotic president
beside I want McClain to win it
Want to try forming your own opinion next time, or keep letting someone on TV form opinions for you??
You know the worst part of this Democratic race for both Clinton and Obama?
They are going to waste months trying to defeat each other, while McCain can start working for the Presential race now.
The thing I really don't understand about Hillary Clinton's lying is thiss...
What does she think she's getting out of it? Lying that she played soccer at a High School that didn't have a soccer team? Why tell this lie? It doesn't help you in the political field at all... Saying she was under fire by a sniper in Bosnia (supposedly to appear tougher)? Why exagerate when just going to Bosnia is good enough to convince people that you aren't afraid to visit dangerous areas?
If you're going to exagerate or lie, at least make the lie impressive or worthwhile...
MetroidPrimePwn
All of those lies are calculated. Let me help:
On a soccer team?
Suggests to listeners that your social and down to earth. And tough (physically and in state of mind)
Ducking sniper fire?
Suggests that you've put yourself in danger in order to broker/forward peace processes. It supposes she's not only had good foreign policy experience, but that she's put her life on the line for it. Also adds to the "toughness" argument. After all, how many people will/have put their lives on the line for peace? Not many. Gives her extra points.
9/11?
She was in a tight race for her Senate seat against a guy who actually DID have a child near ground zero. Putting Chelsea at gound zero puts Hillary closer to ground zero. Makes her seem like she's a New Yorker who lived the harrowing experience and can tell the story. And telling the story would put her on equal 9/11 ground with her competitor in a city where 9/11 means a lot.
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So no, she's not loopy; she's a sinister tacticioner who will do or say anything if she thinks she won't get called on it...if she thinks she can get away with it.
Chances are, if the media really decides to audit her past statements, many more will surface.
Hmm seems like the Obama supporters are just as bad as Clinton's...jointedWhat are you basing that on?
[QUOTE="jointed"]Hmm seems like the Obama supporters are just as bad as Clinton's...JandurinWhat are you basing that on?
This thread...
What are you basing that on?[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="jointed"]Hmm seems like the Obama supporters are just as bad as Clinton's...jointed
This thread...
Anything in particular? I didn't read through.If you mean the OP, then I'm confused... as if Hillary lied about something so blatant... shouldn't at least a few forum users know about it?
Hmm seems like the Obama supporters are just as bad as Clinton's...jointed
You're just realizing this now? :wink:
While it's unsurprising that a politician lied, it beggers belief that she used a horrific event and such an easily falsifiable story in order to get sympathy votes is just disgusting. Self owned approval.AirGuitarist87That's what bothers me the most about this one.
a politician? LYING? I would have never imagined! :oPearl_of_Egypt
that is not a constructive comment. If you aint got nuttin smart to say, shut the eff up.
Well anyhoo, this lying is actually disgusting. I really don't think she should become president on the basis of that.
Sorry to be tardy to the party but - does anyone ELSE here hate her due to her "videogames are the root of al evil" stance?D3nnyCrane
You hate a candidate because of her stance on video games? Video games?
[QUOTE="jointed"]What are you basing that on?[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="jointed"]Hmm seems like the Obama supporters are just as bad as Clinton's...Jandurin
This thread...
Anything in particular? I didn't read through.If you mean the OP, then I'm confused... as if Hillary lied about something so blatant... shouldn't at least a few forum users know about it?
Come on...it's a 7 year old statement. This kind of mudslinging is pathetic, self-destructive, and sad to watch.
[QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]Sorry to be tardy to the party but - does anyone ELSE here hate her due to her "videogames are the root of al evil" stance?Oleg_Huzwog
You hate a candidate because of her stance on video games? Video games?
So do I. Video games are an important part of my life, and I don't want some president telling me how to play them.Come on...it's a 7 year old statement. This kind of mudslinging is pathetic, self-destructive, and sad to watch.jointedYou guys are right.
What people have done in the past is in the past. They'll never do them again.
Ex-liars are honest, Ex-addicts are clean, and ex-cheaters are totally loyal.
I'm glad you all have such a great view of humanity.
Why can't you face the actual policies of these candidates rather than other crap..Total-KO
Policies are too confusing to keep people's attention focused.
You guys are right.[QUOTE="jointed"]Come on...it's a 7 year old statement. This kind of mudslinging is pathetic, self-destructive, and sad to watch.Jandurin
What people have done in the past is in the past. They'll never do them again.
Ex-liars are honest, Ex-addicts are clean, and ex-cheaters are totally loyal.
I'm glad you all have such a great view of humanity.
Ehm...so Obama is a pot smoking idiot since he tried it in high school?
Ehm...so Obama is a pot smoking idiot since he tried it in high school?jointedpot smoking doesn't make one an idiot.
Also, high school is just a little different than on a podium in front of reporters.
[QUOTE="Oleg_Huzwog"][QUOTE="D3nnyCrane"]Sorry to be tardy to the party but - does anyone ELSE here hate her due to her "videogames are the root of al evil" stance?Jandurin
You hate a candidate because of her stance on video games? Video games?
So do I. Video games are an important part of my life, and I don't want some president telling me how to play them. I dislike Clinton too, but don't you think there are things that should take precedent over games right now? Namely the economy, Iraq, and government spending?I dislike Clinton too, but don't you think there are things that should take precedent over games right now? Namely the economy, Iraq, and government spending?SmashBrosLegendEh. I don't go for that complex thinking.
[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="jointed"]What are you basing that on?[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="jointed"]Hmm seems like the Obama supporters are just as bad as Clinton's...jointed
This thread...
Anything in particular? I didn't read through.If you mean the OP, then I'm confused... as if Hillary lied about something so blatant... shouldn't at least a few forum users know about it?
Come on...it's a 7 year old statement. This kind of mudslinging is pathetic, self-destructive, and sad to watch.
shows me a pattern.
shows me a pattern.Dreams-Visionsfool me once, shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. fool me three times?
pot smoking doesn't make one an idiot.[QUOTE="jointed"]Ehm...so Obama is a pot smoking idiot since he tried it in high school?Jandurin
Also, high school is just a little different than on a podium in front of reporters.
Sorry but that's a bunch of BS excuses.
The fact that Clinton lied about something as trivial as where her daughter was located during the 9/11 attacks 7 years ago is close to insignificant.
And it wasn't a podium in front of reporters...
So do I. Video games are an important part of my life, and I don't want some president telling me how to play them.Jandurin
Don't be daft. 100% of the video game laws you fear have been overturned in the courts. No president will change firmly established judicial precedent.
The fact that Clinton lied about something as trivial as where her daughter was located during the 9/11 attacks 7 years ago is close to insignificant.I was talking about the Bosnia thing.And it wasn't a podium in front of reporters...
jointed
Nothing is insignificant when you're talking about the future president. And politicians. And actions taken as a politician.
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