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These f**king savages needs to be deported. End of story.

jointed

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These f**king savages needs to be deported. End of story.

kingkong0124

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These f**king savages needs to be deported. End of story.

BossPerson

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Don't know why bossperson thinks the North America is fundamentally different than Europe WRT racism.

BossPerson

I guess "racism" is the wrong word to use. "nationalism" would be better, but I only used "racism" because nationalism can lead to racism. 

I would say that the U.S. is handily more nationalist than most of Europe, even discounting the 9/11 effect.  This place on the 4th, man.  Additionally, much can be said about our love of immigrants.  Say what you will about Mexicans, they never burn down shops, blow up buildings, or symbolically butcher soldiers in the streets, but they still get a lot of love from the natives for "breaking our laws by being here illegally."

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]kingkong0124

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]hes referring to all muslims, just to let you knowBossPerson

kk is murican tho

blacks have had pretty massive issues despite citizenship, not all of which have entirely subsided even after some 150 years since the abolition of slavery

throw in a new population that murica hasn't adjusted to, i'm not sure that the difference would have been entirely successful

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] most UK muslims have backward views. coolbeans90

kk is murican tho

blacks have had pretty massive issues despite citizenship, not all of which have entirely subsided after some hundred years since the abolition of slavery

Anyways I support the wholesale slaughter and deportation of Muslims in Europe because I am a good European. 

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"] coolbeans, this is my point about ethnic nationalism in europe. When someone's citizenship cant protect them because of their race, you have a racist society. thanks kk for proving my point. BossPerson

kk is murican tho

blacks have had pretty massive issues despite citizenship, not all of which have entirely subsided after some hundred years since the abolition of slavery

that really only happens with tensions

in the us, introducing a comparably/proportionally large population could produce a similar reaction

unless there's something relating ethnicity and/or race with citizenship in europe that im missing, distinct from them individually

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These f**king savages needs to be deported. End of story.

BossPerson

Anyways I support the wholesale slaughter and deportation of Muslims in Europe because I am a good European. 

BossPerson

me2

France should remember who kept them in the Euro Cup wii60_3

I dont mean individual europeans are consciously racist, but that historically for centuries, europe has been built on ethnic nationalism which is an extension of racism Its easier for a muslim to feel Canadian than for them to feel "French" because modern Canada isnt built on ethnic nationalism BossPerson

Just stop. Your argument doesn't make sense even on a superficial level. US has far fewer Muslims numerically and proportionally and therefore fewer Islam-inspired events than Europe. And yet the political right is more suspicious of Islam and has more political influence than in Europe. Remember the protests against the "ground zero mosque"?

Anyways I support the wholesale slaughter and deportation of Muslims in Europe because I am a good European. 

BossPerson

Oh fvck off.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]hes referring to all muslims, just to let you knowBossPerson

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] most UK muslims have backward views. TigerSuperman

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]I dont mean individual europeans are consciously racist, but that historically for centuries, europe has been built on ethnic nationalism which is an extension of racism Its easier for a muslim to feel Canadian than for them to feel "French" because modern Canada isnt built on ethnic nationalism PWSteal_Ldpinch

Just stop. Your argument doesn't make sense even on a superficial level. US has far fewer Muslims numerically and proportionally and therefore fewer Islam-inspired events than Europe. And yet the political right is more suspicious of Islam and has more political influence than in Europe. Remember the protests against the "ground zero mosque"?

Anyways I support the wholesale slaughter and deportation of Muslims in Europe because I am a good European. 

BossPerson

Oh fvck off.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]kingkong0124

Like this guy http://img.ibtimes.com/www/data/images/full/2012/11/06/318085.jpg

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]I dont mean individual europeans are consciously racist, but that historically for centuries, europe has been built on ethnic nationalism which is an extension of racism Its easier for a muslim to feel Canadian than for them to feel "French" because modern Canada isnt built on ethnic nationalism BossPerson

Just stop. Your argument doesn't make sense even on a superficial level. US has far fewer Muslims numerically and proportionally and therefore fewer Islam-inspired events than Europe. And yet the political right is more suspicious of Islam and has more political influence than in Europe. Remember the protests against the "ground zero mosque"? 

What does "built on ethnic nationalism" even mean? The United States consitution which was ratified in 1788 predates most European constitutions. The modern French constitution, for example, was adopted as recently as 1958. Are you saying most of these European constitutions have ethnic nationalism built into them? Or are you referring to the ethnic and nationalistic conflicts that predate these countries? If the latter, then why is it fair to judge a country based on the climate that existed before the country took its modern form? In any case, your specific point about being "built on ethnic nationalism", as well as your overall argument, makes no sense. 

Muslims have been given plenty of opportunity to integrate in Europe, more than they deserve in my opinion, and they have quite literally trampled the flags of their host countries. Europe's experience with islam today is no different than it was in the 8th century when Spain and France were invaded, or in the 9th century when Sicily and Italy were invaded, or in the 16th and 17th centuries when Vienna was twice besieged. Europe is now experiencing Islam in the same way that Christians, Hindus, Sikhs, and Buddhists have always experienced Islam. Islam has never shown deference to alternative faiths, and has tolerated the existence of Judaism and Christianity only when Islam was in a dominant position. The other faiths do not even deserve second class status according to Islam. It was an ignorant mistake to introduce to Europe a religion that has never been satisfied with mere equality.

Historically, Europe has been divided into nations built on national identities built on ethnicity. How hard is it to grasp that this cannot be said for America and Canada. While it was mainly WASPS who "built" the structures of these countries, the country as a whole is not viewed as the homeland of one ethnicity or another, they are not nation-states whereas European countries are nation-states (as are the vast majority of countries in the world. In fact you could probably count on two hands the countries that aren't. BossPerson

IDK

They didn't like having the Irish, Mexicans, or Chinese move in, nor did they like giving the black man a vote, so I'd guess that race and/or ethnicity thing couldn't be regarded as inconsequential, far from it.

Changes happen, though.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Historically, Europe has been divided into nations built on national identities built on ethnicity. How hard is it to grasp that this cannot be said for America and Canada. While it was mainly WASPS who "built" the structures of these countries, the country as a whole is not viewed as the homeland of one ethnicity or another, they are not nation-states whereas European countries are nation-states (as are the vast majority of countries in the world. In fact you could probably count on two hands the countries that aren't. coolbeans90

IDK

They didn't like having the Irish, Mexicans, or Chinese move in, nor did they like giving the black man a vote, so I'd guess that race and/or ethnicity thing couldn't be regarded as inconsequential, far from it.

Changes happen, though.

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]Historically, Europe has been divided into nations built on national identities built on ethnicity. How hard is it to grasp that this cannot be said for America and Canada. While it was mainly WASPS who "built" the structures of these countries, the country as a whole is not viewed as the homeland of one ethnicity or another, they are not nation-states whereas European countries are nation-states (as are the vast majority of countries in the world. In fact you could probably count on two hands the countries that aren't. PWSteal_Ldpinch

IDK

They didn't like having the Irish, Mexicans, or Chinese move in, nor did they like giving the black man a vote, so I'd guess that race and/or ethnicity thing couldn't be regarded as inconsequential, far from it.

Changes happen, though.

ike I said, Im not a tard like you who thinks that things are black and white.

Muslims I think have about 80% of the blame, Europe 20.

and im not a muslim

and no i dont blame "everything" on european colonialism and imperialism, but are you seriously going to deny that those things were not worthy of condemnation.

**** christ, all i said is it is harder to integrate into a nation state than a multi-national state. 

and no i dont blame "everything" on european colonialism and imperialism, but are you seriously going to deny that those things were not worthy of condemnation.

BossPerson

The conquest of Spain and France by Muslims lasted for 8 centuries, and the conquest of Italy lasted for about 100 years. The Ottoman wars in Europe lasted from the 13th until the 19th century. Europe has been in conflict with Muslim invaders for the major part of the last two millennia. It was only in the last 200 years that European armies were able to colonize and hold Muslim lands. And yet despite the constant invasion by Muslim forces, Europe was able to undergo the Renaissanse, Reformation, and the scientific revolution. On the other hand, Muslims have been sovereign in their lands for a much longer time, with less to show for it. And yet it is Muslims who still blame the West for their failures, not the other way around.

Muslims believed that Christianity is a corrupt relgion, with nothing of value to contribute to human knowledge. While Europeans were eager to learn from the intellectual advances in Muslim lands, the Muslims effectively ignored European advances such as the enlightenment and the scientific revolution. The Muslim world did not experience a decline, it was Europe that was finally able to advance and pull ahead. 

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and no i dont blame "everything" on european colonialism and imperialism, but are you seriously going to deny that those things were not worthy of condemnation.

PWSteal_Ldpinch

The conquest of Spain and France by Muslims lasted for 8 centuries, and the conquest of Italy lasted for about 100 years. The Ottoman wars in Europe lasted from the 13th until the 19th century. Europe has been in conflict with Muslim invaders for most of its history. It was only in the last 200 years that European armies were able to colonize and hold Muslim lands. And yet despite the constant invasion by Muslim forces, Europe was able to undergo the Renaissanse, Reformation, and the scientific revolution. On the other hand, Muslims have been sovereign in their lands for a much longer time, with less to show for it.

This is because Muslims believe that Christianity is a corrupt relgion, with nothing of value to contribute to human knowledge. While Europeans were eager to learn from the intellectual advances in Muslim lands, the Muslims effectively ignored European advances such as the enlightenment and the scientific revolution. The Muslim world did not experience a decline, it was Europe that was finally able to advance and pull ahead. 

we have a rocky relationship on OT, you and I. 

It's because your an angry fvck 

a copycat attack imitating what happend in London? It seems like one terrorist attack inspires others unfortunately.

whipassmt

It was a horrible, cowardly attack, but how the hell can it have been "terrorism"?

The victim is a soldier---of a country that is at war, no less---and was on active duty at the time of the attack.

If this was an act of terrorism, then what is the killing of civilians in their own homes, as perpetrated by Obama's drones?

:?

we have a rocky relationship on OT, you and I. 

It's because your an angry fvck 

BossPerson

I respect that you at least try to be impartial. But sometimes your arguments and idiosyncrasies (accusing Islam critics of racism) are so nonsensical that one wonders whether you're a bit dim or just need more deprogramming.

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we have a rocky relationship on OT, you and I. 

It's because your an angry fvck 

PWSteal_Ldpinch

I respect that you at least try to be impartial. But sometimes your arguments and idiosyncrasies (accusing Islam critics of racism) are so nonsensical that one wonders whether you're a bit dim or just need more deprogramming.

Anyways I support the wholesale slaughter and deportation of Muslims in Europe because I am a good European. 

BossPerson

Also sh!t like this is not okay. Nobody here advocates wholesale slaughter, don't be a dumbass.

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... even though Muslims are 100% responsible for their current situation in Europe, ...

Stesilaus

Not really. They're just pawns of the multiculturalist movement. The people who are pushing that movement are the ones who are really to blame.

This video (3 minutes, 51 seconds) provides a few insights into who's really behind European multiculturalism.

and to think I thought you were banned for good.

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... even though Muslims are 100% responsible for their current situation in Europe, ...

Jebus213

Not really. They're just pawns of the multiculturalist movement. The people who are pushing that movement are the ones who are really to blame.

This video (3 minutes, 51 seconds) provides a few insights into who's really behind European multiculturalism.

and to think I thought you were banned for good.

I've never been banned. :|

Is there something especially "banworthy" about my postings?

Upon a bit of thought, I'm pretty sure that the U.S. was founded by upon a certain ethnic identity (or range of highly similar ones) and was essentially similar to Europe, but quite a bit has changed since.  That said, the "founding," I would argue, isn't really the factor you should be looking at.  That was my only real beef with Boss' analysis.  At the present time, the U.S. has one of the most diverse populations in the world.  This might translate to the U.S. being more tolerant than other nations, but it still wouldn't be without problems.  I would imagine that if Muslims had immigrated here in the numbers that the Hispanics had, they would have faced worse tensions than the Hispanics by a fewfold, particularly in light of 9/11.  Then again, maybe not.

85% certain that Stesilaus is a troll.

Upon a bit of thought, I'm pretty sure that the U.S. was founded by upon a certain ethnic identity (or range of highly similar ones) and was essentially similar to Europe, but quite a bit has changed since.  That said, the "founding," I would argue, isn't really the factor you should be looking at.  That was my only real beef with Boss' analysis.  At the present time, the U.S. has one of the most diverse populations in the world.  This might translate to the U.S. being more tolerant than other nations, but it still wouldn't be without problems.  I would imagine that if Muslims had immigrated here in the numbers that the Hispanics had, they would have faced worse tensions than the Hispanics by a fewfold, particularly in light of 9/11.  Then again, maybe not.

coolbeans90

85% certain that Stesilaus is a troll.coolbeans90

Posters are skipping around the superficial aspects of this story. :(

The salient point---the one that everybody seems to want to avoid---is that ...

ZIONISTS ARE BEHIND EUROPEAN MULTICULTURALISM!

I included the substantiation in my earlier post, but here it is again for the sake of convenience:

Multiculturalism in Europe: Who is Behind It? by David Duke 

Stesilaus

I don't understand why he still isn't banned.

[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]85% certain that Stesilaus is a troll.PWSteal_Ldpinch

Posters are skipping around the superficial aspects of this story. :(

The salient point---the one that everybody seems to want to avoid---is that ...

ZIONISTS ARE BEHIND EUROPEAN MULTICULTURALISM!

I included the substantiation in my earlier post, but here it is again for the sake of convenience:

Multiculturalism in Europe: Who is Behind It? by David Duke

Stesilaus

I don't understand why he still isn't banned.

Posting a reference to a video by David Duke doesn't imply support or advocacy of all his views. I'm NOT one of his fans or followers. I'm an atheist and, as such, I have no affinity for either Christian fundamentalism or Islamic fundamentalism.

That said, I don't apologize for posting a link to the video, simply because it contains information and insights that are relevant to a proper discussion of "multiculturalism".

I've noticed that a thread concerning multiculturalism can attract the most crassly-worded generalizations about Muslims without generating calls for banning. But as soon as I draw attention to a video in which a Jewish woman openly and proudly admits that she wants Jews to play a leading role in promoting European multiculturalism, then suddenly a red line has been crossed and a banning is warranted! :roll:

Geez. Why are you so keen to suppress this information? Does it threaten a cherished worldview in which every one of the world's problems can be blamed solely on Muslims?

Yeah, this guy is certainly a troll.

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IDK

They didn't like having the Irish, Mexicans, or Chinese move in, nor did they like giving the black man a vote, so I'd guess that race and/or ethnicity thing couldn't be regarded as inconsequential, far from it.

Changes happen, though.

BossPerson

ike I said, Im not a tard like you who thinks that things are black and white.

Muslims I think have about 80% of the blame, Europe 20.

and im not a muslim

and no i dont blame "everything" on european colonialism and imperialism, but are you seriously going to deny that those things were not worthy of condemnation.

It's either toughen up and accept that your new home will have a different culture or move back to your own country. This applies anywhere. I wouldn't go to Mexico and bitch about everyone being a Spanish-speaking Catholic mestizo and demand that white Anglo-Saxon protestants take over. That's bullshit, and so is the Islamist extremism that seems ever more prevalent. Their ideology is completely against equality, and Sharia law punishes women by death for the stupidest shit. Anti-Muslim sentiment will only increase if extremists continue to blow people and buildings up "in the name of Allah". That shit has no place in the 21st century. The 750s called; they want their extremists back.

Religion of peace.

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Serious, and all the more pathetic.

jimkabrhel

John Edwards? Not me. Not the politician, not the charletain.