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An architect of anti-immigration efforts who says he is advising President-elect Donald Trump said the new administration could push ahead rapidly on construction of a U.S.-Mexico border wall without seeking immediate congressional approval.

Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach, who helped write tough immigration laws in Arizona and elsewhere, said in an interview that Trump's policy advisers had also discussed drafting a proposal for his consideration to reinstate a registry for immigrants from Muslim countries.

Kobach, who media reports say is a key member of Trump's transition team, said he had participated in regular conference calls with about a dozen Trump immigration advisers for the past two to three months.

Trump's transition team did not respond to requests for confirmation of Kobach's role. The president-elect has not committed to following any specific recommendations from advisory groups.

Trump, who scored an upset victory last week over Democrat Hillary Clinton, made building a wall on the U.S.-Mexico border a central issue of his campaign and has pledged to step up immigration enforcement against the country’s 11 million undocumented immigrants. He has also said he supports “extreme vetting” of Muslims entering the United States as a national security measure.

Kobach told Reuters last Friday that the immigration group had discussed drafting executive orders for the president-elect's review "so that Trump and the Department of Homeland Security hit the ground running."

This is what people were afraid of. This is why we have protests (not just for Hillary not winning), because they feared they would pull through with something like this.

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I wouldn't worry. Trump and his entourage can't even manage the transition smoothly, I doubt they'd be able to govern well enough to pass their most controversial policies.

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As a taxpayer I am against wasting tax dollars on this crap. Ugh.....impeach him already.

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Is this from the very same media thinking he had a hoot in hell chance of winning the election?

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@nintendoboy16:

If they do the wall, people are going to get real pissed off how much it's going to cost. I know Mexico sure as **** won't be able to pay for it.

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@nintendoboy16:

If they do the wall, people are going to get real pissed off how much it's going to cost. I know Mexico sure as **** won't be able to pay for it.

And why should they?

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@nintendoboy16:

Does "The Wall" benefit the US economy?

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@nintendoboy16:

Does "The Wall" benefit the US economy?

No it costs money....

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What does The Wall do for US period?

If you can't get a financial gain from it, whats the point again?

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#10  Edited By LJS9502_basic
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@PSP107 said:

@LJS9502_basic:

What does The Wall do for US period?

If you can't get a financial gain from it, whats the point again?

xenophobia

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#11  Edited By MrFreehuggs
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@Solaryellow: I love that people believe a faulty polling system validates their beliefs that the media is untrustworthy. All while getting their news from sites that have said Obama is the literal anti-christ and a muslim, Hillary Clinton is an actual demon and that all mass shootings are false flag operations put on by the government to take away our guns.

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@killered3 said:

@nintendoboy16:

If they do the wall, people are going to get real pissed off how much it's going to cost. I know Mexico sure as **** won't be able to pay for it.

Mexico is not going to have a choice.

It´s not like Trump is going to call up the Mexican government and say "hey listen the wall, it will be x-amount of $ , so we will just send you a bill . Please pay it on time"

There are loads of ways for Trump to indirectly make Mexico pay, Toll-walls, Tax on transferring money to mexico etc. etc. etc....

http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/01/news/economy/mexico-peso-money-transfer-trump-remittance/

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@LJS9502_basic:

So that's what Trump mean by "Make America Great Again"

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#14  Edited By nepu7supastar7
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@PSP107:

Makes us feel secure that our country won't look so inviting towards illegal immigrants and harder to access illegally. Until they'd start pouring in from Canada, anyway! lol

"Fuuuck! We gotta put a border there too!"

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@killered3 said:

@PSP107:

Makes us feel secure that our country won't

look so inviting towards illegal immigrants and harder to access illegally. Until they'd start pouring in from Canada, anyway! lol

"Fuuuck! We gotta put a border there too!"

You surely must mean pouring into Canada not the other way around... :D

So Canada may be the one thinking about building a wall.

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@LJS9502_basic:

Xenophobia? Or maybe you have it right, not familiar with your word.

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@LJS9502_basic:

Xenophobia? Or maybe you have it right, not familiar with your word.

Typo....:P

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You know how people troll online? When people say stupid stuff just to piss others off for "funsies"? That's what I expect people to do with the wall should it get built. I expect people from Mexico will blow parts of it up (without intention to enter the country) just to watch the news later and see people all pissed off. Because funsies.

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Why the hell you people care about this stuff is beyond me. Exactly how does illegal immigration from Mexico or Muslim immigration from the middle east make YOUR life better? Is it because the talking heads on TV tell you that you should feel that way? I understand why a Muslim wants it and I understand why Mexicans want it. But for the life of me I cannot wrap my head around where the logic is for a white kid in a suburb screaming to the heavens "OMG I'm just gonna die if we don't get more Muslims in here!" Mexicans are not pleading for more whites, Muslims are not begging for more Christians, yet you guys ... Someone has got to be nuts here and I just cannot believe that the overwhelming majority of the planet that isn't begging and pleading for foreign immigration are the crazy ones and the tiny minority of the globe that is white people (Just 5% of the population) whom act as though every time a foreigner enters their land an angel gets its wings are the only sane ones. It's one thing to not be against immigration but I see white kids at these protests actually bawling their eyes out when immigration is brought up and it's freaking weird! They look as though this ain't just an opinion for them but some kind of religious belief.

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@LJS9502_basic:

Ok, I see.....I know the word xenophobia. In 6th grade, my teacher asked us to pick any word in the dictionary and ask another student what it means. I picked xenophobia, a word I never heard of and figured she didn't either. She immediately said "fear of strangers", haha, I was stunned. Could of picked any word in the dictionary!

Funny how I remember that so well, couldn't remember what she asked me. 1973, geezus, we were still finishing up the war in Vietnam.

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@Wickerman777: It's doubtful there's a single reason, but among them might be these; they have friends who are immigrants and don't want to see them deported, they understand economics of immigrants being beneficial to the economy, they simply view them as people who deserve respect, they see a broken immigration system and view this as a band aid rather than a solution. Or probably a number of things that I'm not thinking of.

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#23  Edited By PSP107
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@Jacanuk: "So Canada may be the one thinking about building a wall."

What so great about Canada besides free health care?

@AFBrat77:

And thats probably the point of "Make America Great Again "

And that's putting minorities, immigrates and women in their original place. These groups are getting stronger and Republicans ain't having that.

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@killered3 said:

@nintendoboy16:

If they do the wall, people are going to get real pissed off how much it's going to cost. I know Mexico sure as **** won't be able to pay for it.

lol Mexico won't pay a cent. Anyone convinced they will is living in a fantasy land.

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@Jacanuk:

ROFLMAO Yeah, good luck with that!

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@perfect_blue said:
@killered3 said:

@nintendoboy16:

If they do the wall, people are going to get real pissed off how much it's going to cost. I know Mexico sure as **** won't be able to pay for it.

lol Mexico won't pay a cent. Anyone convinced they will is living in a fantasy land.

Mexico can't afford to build anything, since they waste all their money on a pointless drug war. They can't even afford to create facilities to clean water supplies.

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@Wickerman777: Immigrants from other countries tend to be leaving those countries because they're war torn shitholes and they're looking for a better home for their families. I wasn't raised to believe that if it doesn't affect me, I should ignore it. Them having been born somewhere else or practicing a different religion is secondary to the fact that the are human beings. They aren't fighting for my rights because they're bush fighting for their own.

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@PSP107

I'm a white male with British and German roots, or as I jokingly say, a "northern european" American. Served 4 years with honorable discharge in the U.S. Air Force. Other than being college-educated, I am typical of a Trump supporter and the white America that used to be.

But if anyone's read my posts, I voted for Hillary, with whom I pushed character issues (for both) aside and asked myself the question "Which of the 2 is more capable at being president and represents values closer to my own?". On most issues that's Hillary.

But I do agree more with Trump than Hillary when it comes to immigration. I certainly don't agree with banning Muslims, but I like the idea of removing immigrants with a criminal record and making it more difficult for anyone to immigrate to the United States unless they contribute to society in a positive way. I won't lie about it, I am wary of Muslims for various reasons, but I certainly don't think they all want to undermine America.

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If you care so much about human rights and feel so much pain for Mexicans and Muslims, go volunteer to help in their country.

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Good luck

@Wickerman777 said:

Why the hell you people care about this stuff is beyond me. Exactly how does illegal immigration from Mexico or Muslim immigration from the middle east make YOUR life better? Is it because the talking heads on TV tell you that you should feel that way? I understand why a Muslim wants it and I understand why Mexicans want it. But for the life of me I cannot wrap my head around where the logic is for a white kid in a suburb screaming to the heavens "OMG I'm just gonna die if we don't get more Muslims in here!" Mexicans are not pleading for more whites, Muslims are not begging for more Christians, yet you guys ... Someone has got to be nuts here and I just cannot believe that the overwhelming majority of the planet that isn't begging and pleading for foreign immigration are the crazy ones and the tiny minority of the globe that is white people (Just 5% of the population) whom act as though every time a foreigner enters their land an angel gets its wings are the only sane ones. It's one thing to not be against immigration but I see white kids at these protests actually bawling their eyes out when immigration is brought up and it's freaking weird! They look as though this ain't just an opinion for them but some kind of religious belief.

Well, let's look at some points:

1. The US is a nation of immigrants. Not just white European ones, but black ones as well. Asians, too. And let's not forget the American Indians that were here first, as well; they welcomed immigrants initially. Immigration, legal or illegal, is an American value as old and as true as the nation itself.

2. I could care less what a Mexican in Mexico thinks of US immigration to Mexico. What does that have to do with me? Or a Muslim (not that we are letting "Muslims" in, I'm pretty sure we are letting "Arabs" in...), for that matter. This isn't a give one, take one process; we don't "exchange" immigrants as if we somehow lose something by taking on an immigrant so we need to sell an immigrant to balance it out, no one "owes" us anything.

3. As for why a white person wants it, it's called equality. OK, prepare yourself for a bit of holier than thou...but some of us like to think beyond ourselves, maybe think of the big picture, yeah? Maybe we see the world in the cosmic scheme of things? Maybe the world is a big beautiful grey color and not just black and white (mostly white, if some people had their way) as some would think. Maybe we think back on our great grand parents and the opportunities afforded to them as immigrants and would like to see them passed on to others?

4. Why is it so crazy to be upset over draconian immigration laws? Why is demonstrating sympathy--nay, empathy!--such a terrible quality to you? The world is a beautiful place, but it can also be cruel: for those of us lucky enough to have won the genetic lottery of being any combination of white/middle-class-or-wealthier/male/American (pick any two or more), it's important to thrust yourself into the shoes of others not so lucky in order to see the ugly side of life.

And it's not an opinion, and it's not a religious belief. It's a fact that shit is going down the drain in this country, we are going back to the 1950's. We are literally setting the clock back to the time where the country started going to shit, except we are already shit, so now it's double shit.

And you ask why people cry?

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@mrbojangles25: Accepting illegal immigrants is an American value? Lmao!

And in the 1950s we were undisputably the most powerful country in the world. We should stop listening to anyone who says we were always shit.

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@PSP107

I'm a white male with British and German roots, or as I jokingly say, a "northern european" American. Served 4 years with honorable discharge in the U.S. Air Force. Other than being college-educated, I am typical of a Trump supporter and the white America that used to be.

But if anyone's read my posts, I voted for Hillary, with whom I pushed character issues (for both) aside and asked myself the question "Which of the 2 is more capable at being president and represents values closer to my own?". On most issues that's Hillary.

But I do agree more with Trump than Hillary when it comes to immigration. I certainly don't agree with banning Muslims, but I like the idea of removing immigrants with a criminal record and making it more difficult for anyone to immigrate to the United States unless they contribute to society in a positive way. I won't lie about it, I am wary of Muslims for various reasons, but I certainly don't think they all want to undermine America.

We already do that though.....

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@mrbojangles25: Accepting illegal immigrants is an American value? Lmao!

hell yeah dude

gotta grow them crops! and who is going to build that wall?

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@mrbojangles25 said:

Good luck

@Wickerman777 said:

Why the hell you people care about this stuff is beyond me. Exactly how does illegal immigration from Mexico or Muslim immigration from the middle east make YOUR life better? Is it because the talking heads on TV tell you that you should feel that way? I understand why a Muslim wants it and I understand why Mexicans want it. But for the life of me I cannot wrap my head around where the logic is for a white kid in a suburb screaming to the heavens "OMG I'm just gonna die if we don't get more Muslims in here!" Mexicans are not pleading for more whites, Muslims are not begging for more Christians, yet you guys ... Someone has got to be nuts here and I just cannot believe that the overwhelming majority of the planet that isn't begging and pleading for foreign immigration are the crazy ones and the tiny minority of the globe that is white people (Just 5% of the population) whom act as though every time a foreigner enters their land an angel gets its wings are the only sane ones. It's one thing to not be against immigration but I see white kids at these protests actually bawling their eyes out when immigration is brought up and it's freaking weird! They look as though this ain't just an opinion for them but some kind of religious belief.

Well, let's look at some points:

1. The US is a nation of immigrants. Not just white European ones, but black ones as well. Asians, too. And let's not forget the American Indians that were here first, as well; they welcomed immigrants initially. Immigration, legal or illegal, is an American value as old and as true as the nation itself.

2. I could care less what a Mexican in Mexico thinks of US immigration to Mexico. What does that have to do with me? Or a Muslim (not that we are letting "Muslims" in, I'm pretty sure we are letting "Arabs" in...), for that matter. This isn't a give one, take one process; we don't "exchange" immigrants as if we somehow lose something by taking on an immigrant so we need to sell an immigrant to balance it out, no one "owes" us anything.

3. As for why a white person wants it, it's called equality. OK, prepare yourself for a bit of holier than thou...but some of us like to think beyond ourselves, maybe think of the big picture, yeah? Maybe we see the world in the cosmic scheme of things? Maybe the world is a big beautiful grey color and not just black and white (mostly white, if some people had their way) as some would think. Maybe we think back on our great grand parents and the opportunities afforded to them as immigrants and would like to see them passed on to others?

4. Why is it so crazy to be upset over draconian immigration laws? Why is demonstrating sympathy--nay, empathy!--such a terrible quality to you? The world is a beautiful place, but it can also be cruel: for those of us lucky enough to have won the genetic lottery of being any combination of white/middle-class-or-wealthier/male/American (pick any two or more), it's important to thrust yourself into the shoes of others not so lucky in order to see the ugly side of life.

And it's not an opinion, and it's not a religious belief. It's a fact that shit is going down the drain in this country, we are going back to the 1950's. We are literally setting the clock back to the time where the country started going to shit, except we are already shit, so now it's double shit.

And you ask why people cry?

I am thinking about the big picture, dude. Pretty sure you're not. Once whites are the minorities in the places they once were the majority it ain't gonna be a pretty picture for them. If for even a fleeting moment you believe they will be treated the same or better than when things were the other way around you are living in a dream. White people are the only people in the world that believe in multiculturalism. It works currently only because whites are still the majority where it is practiced. But you may have noticed that as the minority population increases racial tension also increases, eh? You ain't seen nothing yet. Once the shit hits the fan, and it will, the white minority that has to deal with it will be cursing our bleeding hearts.

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They will and are already talking about only parts being fenced. Even Trump admits that we have to look at this realistically. Mexico doesn't have 10's of billions to pay for a wall like Trump promised. Even usa can't afford it. You're going to have to settle with key points to protect. Even with I.O.U's someone would have to pay for the wall from the get go and that's just money we don't have.

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@Wickerman777: all that fear is going to hurt you sooner than any immigrant will.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Anyway, the US was founded on multiculturalism, I think people forget that sometimes. France? France has always been white. Germany has always been white. Saudi Arabia has always been brown. Congo has always been black. China has always been asian.

You can't really say that about America. I mean you might say "Yeah the "ruling class" of America has been the white man" but look at the people, it's not homogeneous. Never has been, never will be. And that's beautiful, warts and all.

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@Wickerman777: If you're so worried about that.....have lots of babies.

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@mrbojangles25 said:

France has always been white.

I get the point you are trying to make but no, this is definitely not true lol. Have you ever been to France?

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@Solaryellow: I love that people believe a faulty polling system validates their beliefs that the media is untrustworthy. All while getting their news from sites that have said Obama is the literal anti-christ and a muslim, Hillary Clinton is an actual demon and that all mass shootings are false flag operations put on by the government to take away our guns.

Blame the faulty polling system for the media completely dropping the ball on this one, right? Polls aside, the media gave this guy a zero chance in hell of winning. The media invalidated his candidacy. Now I am supposed to listen to the very same media? Ok bud.

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@Wickerman777: all that fear is going to hurt you sooner than any immigrant will.

I'm sorry you feel that way.

Anyway, the US was founded on multiculturalism, I think people forget that sometimes. France? France has always been white. Germany has always been white. Saudi Arabia has always been brown. Congo has always been black. China has always been asian.

You can't really say that about America. I mean you might say "Yeah the "ruling class" of America has been the white man" but look at the people, it's not homogeneous. Never has been, never will be. And that's beautiful, warts and all.

Lol, I fear things like heights. Facts are facts. I'm all for helping poor nations. But bringing them here in numbers that will eventually overwhelm us is beyond dumb.

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@Wickerman777 said:

Lol, I fear things like heights. Facts are facts. I'm all for helping poor nations. But bringing them here in numbers that will eventually overwhelm us is beyond dumb.

Who here (or anywhere, frankly) has advocated to bring in an amount that will "overwhelm" the US? For example Clinton's plan called for 65,000 Syrian refugees... your country's population is over 319,000,000. And those refugees would only be the affluent ones like the ones Canada is bringing in. Hardly overwhelming, don't you think?

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@perfect_blue said:
@Wickerman777 said:

Lol, I fear things like heights. Facts are facts. I'm all for helping poor nations. But bringing them here in numbers that will eventually overwhelm us is beyond dumb.

Who here (or anywhere, frankly) has advocated to bring in an amount that will "overwhelm" the US? Clinton's plan called for 65,000 Syrian refugees... your country's population is over 319,000,000. And those refugees would only be the wealthiest ones. Hardly overwhelming, don't you think?

LOL talking logic to a Trump supporter......

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is that before or after trump fired chris christie because christie locked up his son-in-law's father?

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@LJS9502_basic said:

LOL talking logic to a Trump supporter......

Well damn, you got me there... :(

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@perfect_blue said:
@Wickerman777 said:

Lol, I fear things like heights. Facts are facts. I'm all for helping poor nations. But bringing them here in numbers that will eventually overwhelm us is beyond dumb.

Who here (or anywhere, frankly) has advocated to bring in an amount that will "overwhelm" the US? For example Clinton's plan called for 65,000 Syrian refugees... your country's population is over 319,000,000. And those refugees would only be the affluent ones like the ones Canada is bringing in. Hardly overwhelming, don't you think?

Uhh, the population of America is already 50% non-white. We're plenty diverse enough already. Look, when Mexico or Saudi Arabia decides to become just 50% Mexican or 50% Arab I'll agree multiculturalism can work. But that ain't gonna happen cuz they don't believe in the shit you do.

And why the hell am I debating this anyway?! It's pointless. This is clearly a religion for you and religion just can't be debated. Whether you want to admit it or not no other ethnicity on the planet sees this the way you do. And that means you're the odd man out, the nutcase. But whites have always had a crazy streak, I guess. One nation of em hell bent on killing everyone else in the 30s and 40s and now many of them hell bent on offing themselves. Always gotta be something.

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@Wickerman777 said:
@perfect_blue said:
@Wickerman777 said:

Lol, I fear things like heights. Facts are facts. I'm all for helping poor nations. But bringing them here in numbers that will eventually overwhelm us is beyond dumb.

Who here (or anywhere, frankly) has advocated to bring in an amount that will "overwhelm" the US? For example Clinton's plan called for 65,000 Syrian refugees... your country's population is over 319,000,000. And those refugees would only be the affluent ones like the ones Canada is bringing in. Hardly overwhelming, don't you think?

Uhh, the population of America is already 50% non-white. We're plenty diverse enough already. Look, when Mexico or Saudi Arabia decides to become just 50% Mexican or 50% Arab I'll agree multiculturalism can work. But that ain't gonna happen cuz they don't believe in the shit you do.

And why the hell am I debating this anyway?! It's pointless. This is clearly a religion for you and religion just can't be debated. Whether you want to admit it or not no other ethnicity on the planet sees this the way you do. And that means you're the odd man out, the nutcase. But whites have always had a crazy streak, I guess. One nation of em hell bent on killing everyone else in the 30s and 40s and now many of them hell bent on offing themselves. Always gotta be something.

Or it means he's an American.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@Wickerman777 said:
@perfect_blue said:
@Wickerman777 said:

Lol, I fear things like heights. Facts are facts. I'm all for helping poor nations. But bringing them here in numbers that will eventually overwhelm us is beyond dumb.

Who here (or anywhere, frankly) has advocated to bring in an amount that will "overwhelm" the US? For example Clinton's plan called for 65,000 Syrian refugees... your country's population is over 319,000,000. And those refugees would only be the affluent ones like the ones Canada is bringing in. Hardly overwhelming, don't you think?

Uhh, the population of America is already 50% non-white. We're plenty diverse enough already. Look, when Mexico or Saudi Arabia decides to become just 50% Mexican or 50% Arab I'll agree multiculturalism can work. But that ain't gonna happen cuz they don't believe in the shit you do.

And why the hell am I debating this anyway?! It's pointless. This is clearly a religion for you and religion just can't be debated. Whether you want to admit it or not no other ethnicity on the planet sees this the way you do. And that means you're the odd man out, the nutcase. But whites have always had a crazy streak, I guess. One nation of em hell bent on killing everyone else in the 30s and 40s and now many of them hell bent on offing themselves. Always gotta be something.

Or it means he's an American.

I ain't even been just talking about America. Europeans are playing the same silly game now. they're just not as far along yet but are rapidly trying to catch up. It ain't an American thing, it's a white thing.

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@Solaryellow: Ignoring facts because a source shares a medium with outlets that made incorrect predictions is ridiculous. What news outlets do you trust? Breitbart, InfoWars, WND... Your gut?