Richard Dawkins backs atheist camp to give children 'godless alternative'

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#1 knowledge-funk
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/jun/28/atheism-camp-uk-richard-dawkins

An atheist summer camp for children is to be held in the UK for the first time this year, offering a "godless alternative" to similar religious events under canvas.

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#2 Theokhoth
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I wonder how long before we get "Richard Camp."

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#3 LJS9502_basic
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And this is a good thing?

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#4 Senor_Kami
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That seems weird to me. Are they going to go out of their way to teach atheist teachings? Seems bizarre to me because I feel like... wouldn't an atheist summer camp just be a regular summer camp?
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#5 mentalabc123
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How about none of this 'jesus camp', 'atheist camp' bollox.

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#6 BumFluff122
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I wonder how long before we get "Richard Camp."

Theokhoth

A Richard Simmons camp? I think they already exist.

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#7 Darth_Tyrev
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Alright, cool? Weren't there already camps that didn't teach any religious stuff though?

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#8 jim_shorts
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I can't honestly say that pleases me.

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#9 -Chimera-
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That sounds just as dumb as Jesus Camp.

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#10 Im_single
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Richard Dawkins again proves the he deserves the worlds biggest douche award.
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#11 wado-karate
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I don't think they needed to call it an Athiest Camp. They said that they weren't trying to impose anything on the kids, and it acts as a regular camp. Why not just call it a Summer Camp?

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#12 cyberdarkkid
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And this is a good thing?

LJS9502_basic
For atheists yea I suppose, which is sad.
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#13 krazykillaz
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Ugh. This is just as stupid as religion camp.
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#14 -Chimera-
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I wonder how long before we get "Richard Camp."

BumFluff122

A Richard Simmons camp? I think they already exist.

A Richard Simmons camp would be pretty fabulous.

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#15 Im_single
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I don't think they needed to call it an Athiest Camp. They said that they weren't trying to impose anything on the kids, and it acts as a regular camp. Why not just call it a Summer Camp?

wado-karate
Cause Richard Dawkins is a douche and everything he does has to have something to do with disproving religion, or making a mocker of it.
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#16 _glatisant_
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I don't think they needed to call it an Athiest Camp. They said that they weren't trying to impose anything on the kids, and it acts as a regular camp. Why not just call it a Summer Camp?

wado-karate

The name does give completely the wrong impression. But then they wouldn't be getting any media attention, would they?

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#17 BumFluff122
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A Richard Simmons camp would be pretty fabulous.

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Meh. I think I read in Time that there were some Athiest Sunday schools.

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#19 astiop
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

And this is a good thing?

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For atheists yea I suppose, which is sad.

Not really. Just like Jesus Camp isn't a good thing for Christians... To me the whole point and reason I like being an atheist is not being lumped up and labeled something and this **** is the opposite.
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#20 Theokhoth
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Meh. I think I read in Time that there were some Athiest Sunday schools.

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There are atheist churches.

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#21 legend26
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im an atheist but thats just stupid :?

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#22 mentalabc123
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To be honest, shipping your kids off to any kind of camp to get rid of them for a few weeks isn't good in my eyes.

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#23 Ingenemployee
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As an atheist I do not agree with this, it makes us no better than the people in Jesus Camp.

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#24 -Chimera-
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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"]

A Richard Simmons camp would be pretty fabulous.

BumFluff122

I am hoping you did the *snap* *headswing* when you said that. Otherwise you wouldn't be considered a true fan.

Of course I did. I'm pretty fabulousth myself.

Stheriously.

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Considering every time I went to a summer camp as a kid I had Christianity shoved down my throat, I do not see the problem with providing a comparable experience for those who are not religious. I do not see why either side is so threatened by every move of the other.

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#26 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="phillo99"]

Meh. I think I read in Time that there were some Athiest Sunday schools.

Theokhoth

There are atheist churches.

Yes. It's slowly becoming an accepted "religion". Which makes me wonder what happens next.

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#27 Shhadow_Viper
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="phillo99"]

Meh. I think I read in Time that there were some Athiest Sunday schools.

LJS9502_basic

There are atheist churches.

Yes. It's slowly becoming an accepted religion. Which makes me wonder what happens next.

People go on with their lives and adhere to their own beliefs as they always have.
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#28 wado-karate
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="phillo99"]

Meh. I think I read in Time that there were some Athiest Sunday schools.

LJS9502_basic

There are atheist churches.

Yes. It's slowly becoming an accepted religion. Which makes me wonder what happens next.

Usually a war if history serves right.
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#29 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

There are atheist churches.

Shhadow_Viper

Yes. It's slowly becoming an accepted religion. Which makes me wonder what happens next.

People go on with their lives and adhere to their own beliefs as they always have.

What Earth have you been living on and what's the next flight out to there? >_>

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#30 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

There are atheist churches.

Shhadow_Viper

Yes. It's slowly becoming an accepted religion. Which makes me wonder what happens next.

People go on with their lives and adhere to their own beliefs as they always have.

I don't think that happens.:lol:

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#31 pianist
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I wonder how long before we get "Richard Camp."

Theokhoth

:lol:

I suspect it would be rather hilarious to watch it back to back with "Jesus Camp."

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Atheist fundamentalists make atheists look just as goofy as their fundamentalist evangelical counterparts do mainstream Christians :(
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#33 Shhadow_Viper
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[QUOTE="Shhadow_Viper"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Yes. It's slowly becoming an accepted religion. Which makes me wonder what happens next.

Theokhoth

People go on with their lives and adhere to their own beliefs as they always have.

What Earth have you been living on and what's the next flight out to there? >_>

7:30 PM Eastern time.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

I wonder how long before we get "Richard Camp."

pianist

:lol:

I suspect it would be rather hilarious to watch it back to back with "Jesus Camp."

It'd be funnier if they just went ahead and called it "Dick Camp."

Also, I've always wondered how "Dick" is derived from "Richard."

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#35 Theokhoth
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Atheist fundamentalists make atheists look just as goofy as their fundamentalist evangelical counterparts do mainstream Christians :(xaos

That's a long sentence. :(

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#36 pianist
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Considering every time I went to a summer camp as a kid I had Christianity shoved down my throat, I do not see the problem with providing a comparable experience for those who are not religious. I do not see why either side is so threatened by every move of the other.

Shhadow_Viper

I just don't get it. Whatever happened to camp with NO philosophical component? These are KIDS, for Pete's sake. Let them have fun. No need to cram your philosophical beliefs down their throats...

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For some reason I think that's hilarious.
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#38 BumFluff122
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Of course I did. I'm pretty fabulousth myself.

Stheriously.

-Chimera-

You go girl!

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#39 pianist
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To be honest, shipping your kids off to any kind of camp to get rid of them for a few weeks isn't good in my eyes.

mentalabc123

Hmm... I don't think that's the primary consideration in most parents' eyes. Camp can be an extremely fun thing for children. Many of them look forward to going in the summer as much as they look forward to Christmas.

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#40 mentalabc123
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[QUOTE="Shhadow_Viper"]

Considering every time I went to a summer camp as a kid I had Christianity shoved down my throat, I do not see the problem with providing a comparable experience for those who are not religious. I do not see why either side is so threatened by every move of the other.

pianist

I just don't get it. Whatever happened to camp with NO philosophical component? These are KIDS, for Pete's sake. Let them have fun. No need to cram your philosophical beliefs down their throats...

They're young and easily influenced. It's for their own good, remember, to save them from the devil!

Hmm... I don't think that's the primary consideration in most parents' eyes. Camp can be an extremely fun thing for children. Many of them look forward to going in the summer as much as they look forward to Christmas.

I'd rather spend some quality time with my kids than ship them off to someone else (possibly a bit of a nutter armed with a holy book), but like you say, that might not be the primary consideration for some parents.

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[QUOTE="xaos"]Atheist fundamentalists make atheists look just as goofy as their fundamentalist evangelical counterparts do mainstream Christians :(Theokhoth

That's a long sentence. :(

I realized that after I wrote it; would it be better reformulated as "Extremists always make moderates with similar leanings look goofy"? Probably not :( Slightly more concise, though!
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#42 Shhadow_Viper
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[QUOTE="Shhadow_Viper"]

Considering every time I went to a summer camp as a kid I had Christianity shoved down my throat, I do not see the problem with providing a comparable experience for those who are not religious. I do not see why either side is so threatened by every move of the other.

pianist

I just don't get it. Whatever happened to camp with NO philosophical component? These are KIDS, for Pete's sake. Let them have fun. No need to cram your philosophical beliefs down their throats...

I agree entirely. There's a time for a bit of summer fun for kids, and there is a time to educate them. Some people like to kill two birds with one stone I suppose.
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I wanna go!

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[QUOTE="mentalabc123"]

To be honest, shipping your kids off to any kind of camp to get rid of them for a few weeks isn't good in my eyes.

pianist

Hmm... I don't think that's the primary consideration in most parents' eyes. Camp can be an extremely fun thing for children. Many of them look forward to going in the summer as much as they look forward to Christmas.

I kinda wish I could just go to summer camps again instead of having to take summer classes. I always looked forward to going to various Boy Scout camps over the summer, but now that I'm 18, it's not really going to be the same again.
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#45 -Sun_Tzu-
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What happened to the days when summer camp was just about swimming, hiking, fishing, and building arts and crafts. Where did those days go?

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#46 CBR600-RR
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If you were Athiest then you don't believe in anything right? Once you're dead that's it. Why would we need something to teach us how to not believe in anything? I believe in afterlife of some sort, but I do not need to be taught this.

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#47 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="pianist"]

[QUOTE="mentalabc123"]

To be honest, shipping your kids off to any kind of camp to get rid of them for a few weeks isn't good in my eyes.

-Chimera-

Hmm... I don't think that's the primary consideration in most parents' eyes. Camp can be an extremely fun thing for children. Many of them look forward to going in the summer as much as they look forward to Christmas.

I kinda wish I could just go to summer camps again instead of having to take summer classes. I always looked forward to going to various Boy Scout camps over the summer, but now that I'm 18, it's not really going to be the same again.

You could go camping with some friends....

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#48 -Chimera-
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[QUOTE="-Chimera-"][QUOTE="pianist"]

Hmm... I don't think that's the primary consideration in most parents' eyes. Camp can be an extremely fun thing for children. Many of them look forward to going in the summer as much as they look forward to Christmas.

LJS9502_basic

I kinda wish I could just go to summer camps again instead of having to take summer classes. I always looked forward to going to various Boy Scout camps over the summer, but now that I'm 18, it's not really going to be the same again.

You could go camping with some friends....

Yeah, but I don't have time for it right now. I'm going to be going taking classes for the rest of the summer until the end of spring.
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#49 pianist
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I kinda wish I could just go to summer camps again instead of having to take summer classes. I always looked forward to going to various Boy Scout camps over the summer, but now that I'm 18, it's not really going to be the same again.-Chimera-

Like the old saying goes, you're only young once. I understand that feeling. But there are a lot of things you can do now that you couldn't or wouldn't have enjoyed as a youngster.

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#50 Communist_Soul
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I demand jesus camp and this camp meet and ...............FIGHT!