Rockets fall on Nothern Israel.

[QUOTE="1_Blood"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

They believe in Allah, not God. "God" as in capital "G".

Silver_Dragon17

I already know all of this. Allah translates to The God. However, what seperates Christianity, is that Christians believe in one God in three forms: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit. Islam teaches only one god, with no other form. They are close, I admit, but they are not the same God.

They believe they worship the same God as the Jews.

There is a slight difference.

The God the Jews worship is the same God Christians worship, however, the Jews believe in only that God, and no Jesus.

So no, the Islamics do not worship the same God as me, unless they believe Jesus was His Son.

Say that its me and there are two people- one who says I have a son(unknowingly of course) and one who says I don't. Say that both these people worship me. Does the fact that one beleives I have a son and the other doesn't change who I am in anyway? No it does not.

Therefore, how is it that because a Christian beleive Jesus is God's son and a Muslim does notmean that they thus worship a different God. Muslims worship the God of Adam, Noah, Abraham,Moses, and Jesus(peace be upon them all) and last time I check this is the same God that Christians/Jews worship. Where's the difference? Only in peoples interpretations, not in God Himself.

Jesus is a part of God. . . . .the most important part, to Christians. . . . . .if you don't believe that Jesus was the son of God, but believe that God exists, then it is a different God because of the Trinity. You are using yourself, a human, to analogize something that can't be interpreted so easily. Your son is not a part of who you are.

No, christians believe in one god. The god who yada yada yada and then put jesus in the world.

The next group believe in one god. The god who yada yada yada but did not put jesus in the world.

They both believe in the one god. One believes that he had a son, the other did not. It makes no difference.

Would it matter if i had a son or not. You worship god, our father who harth in heaven. You dont pray or worship jesus.

Ok, the other guy said then their are some islams who want war, and i rebullted that the same can be said for christains. Therefore, i said the same thing as the other guy but twisted it towards christians. So your saying the entirety of islams are bent on war. No, they are not, their are some groups. I dont know all groups od christains but i can tell you that a recent report stated that somewhere around 40% of atheist do not trust extremeist christians as well as extremeist islams or muslims.

Darren50000

Who cares who atheists trust? I've noticed some insecurity amongst them....just from reading posts here...not all are insecure...but the majority are.

In addition...what extremist Christians want is everyone to believe what they believe...I've yet to see them take up weapons and fight yet, however.

Second....as I said...look at the Middle East. I haven't yet seen one country in the Middle East stand up and say to stop the constant fighting...so the facts DO NOT back up your position.

No, christians believe in one god. The god who yada yada yada and then put jesus in the world.

The next group believe in one god. The god who yada yada yada but did not put jesus in the world.

They both believe in the one god. One believes that he had a son, the other did not. It makes no difference.

Would it matter if i had a son or not. You worship god, our father who harth in heaven. You dont pray or worship jesus.

Darren50000

Don't tell me what I believe, especially if you're not a Christian.

I DO worship and pray to Jesus. Every Christian does.

God is three parts: God THE FATHER, God THE SON, and GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT. You can worship one without the others, but if you do, then it is not the Christian God. If God never had a son, then Christianity wouldn't exist.

Who cares who atheists trust? I've noticed some insecurity amongst them....just from reading posts here...not all are insecure...but the majority are.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Who cares who atheists trust? I've noticed some insecurity amongst them....just from reading posts here...not all are insecure...but the majority are.

CptJSparrow

I suppose....that's why I didn't generalize. Some are very secure in their beliefs...they tend to be more tolerant of others.

[QUOTE="1_Blood"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

They believe in Allah, not God. "God" as in capital "G".

Silver_Dragon17

I already know all of this. Allah translates to The God. However, what seperates Christianity, is that Christians believe in one God in three forms: God the Father, God the Son (Jesus), and God the Holy Spirit. Islam teaches only one god, with no other form. They are close, I admit, but they are not the same God.

They believe they worship the same God as the Jews.

There is a slight difference.

The God the Jews worship is the same God Christians worship, however, the Jews believe in only that God, and no Jesus.

So no, the Islamics do not worship the same God as me, unless they believe Jesus was His Son.

Say that its me and there are two people- one who says I have a son(unknowingly of course) and one who says I don't. Say that both these people worship me. Does the fact that one beleives I have a son and the other doesn't change who I am in anyway? No it does not.

Therefore, how is it that because a Christian beleive Jesus is God's son and a Muslim does notmean that they thus worship a different God. Muslims worship the God of Adam, Noah, Abraham,Moses, and Jesus(peace be upon them all) and last time I check this is the same God that Christians/Jews worship. Where's the difference? Only in peoples interpretations, not in God Himself.

Jesus is a part of God. . . . .the most important part, to Christians. . . . . .if you don't believe that Jesus was the son of God, but believe that God exists, then it is a different God because of the Trinity. You are using yourself, a human, to analogize something that can't be interpreted so easily. Your son is not a part of who you are.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Who cares who atheists trust? I've noticed some insecurity amongst them....just from reading posts here...not all are insecure...but the majority are.

CptJSparrow

When it comes down to it whether you claim that he is my son or a part of me does not change the fact of who I am. Like I said, you may interpret God as being 3 and Muslim interpret God as being one, how does that change who God is. Its a theological doctrine that you adopt but in the end God is God. But I guess I can see where you come from, because whena Muslim worships God they are worshipping the one God (or as you may call him "The Father") but when Christians worship they are worship three beings The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit. All and all, its difference in theology.1_Blood

Oh no, Christians worship one God. But there are three parts to that one God. . .it's extremely hard to explain, even for a scholar. . . . . .

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Who cares who atheists trust? I've noticed some insecurity amongst them....just from reading posts here...not all are insecure...but the majority are.

EboyLOL

Some guy published a bokk titled "How science proves God does not exist." :lol:

All it was was that "If God exists, then He should be measurable by science" and then his book was "God can't be measured by science, so He doesn't exist." :lol::lol::lol:

Some guy published a bokk titled "How science proves God does not exist." :lol:

All it was was that "If God exists, then He should be measurable by science" and then his book was "God can't be measured by science, so He doesn't exist." :lol::lol::lol:

Silver_Dragon17

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] There's insecurity on both sides...I find it a rather curious thing amongst atheists though, unless they give a good reason to be. Might be the age level.EboyLOL

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Who cares who atheists trust? I've noticed some insecurity amongst them....just from reading posts here...not all are insecure...but the majority are.

Silver_Dragon17

Some guy published a bokk titled "How science proves God does not exist." :lol:

All it was was that "If God exists, then He should be measurable by science" and then his book was "God can't be measured by science, so He doesn't exist." :lol::lol::lol:

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"] There's insecurity on both sides...I find it a rather curious thing amongst atheists though, unless they give a good reason to be. Might be the age level.EboyLOL

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Who cares who atheists trust? I've noticed some insecurity amongst them....just from reading posts here...not all are insecure...but the majority are.

Silver_Dragon17

Some guy published a bokk titled "How science proves God does not exist." :lol:

All it was was that "If God exists, then He should be measurable by science" and then his book was "God can't be measured by science, so He doesn't exist." :lol::lol::lol:

haha how stupid :lol:

It reminds me of a debate I saw on ABC. Christians claimed that they could prove that God exist without using the bible..........their only arguement was that "A painting requires a painter, a creation requires a creator". The atheists quickly put an end to their foolishness though :lol: :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAKEZhjlkxU

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Some guy published a bokk titled "How science proves God does not exist." :lol:

All it was was that "If God exists, then He should be measurable by science" and then his book was "God can't be measured by science, so He doesn't exist." :lol::lol::lol:

CptJSparrow

I think there was more to the title, but I seriously saw this book in BAM two days ago. Your link is actually hilarious, as not even Google is stupid enough to make such a claim!

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"]I tend to see many more "Science Disproves God"-type threads then "God is Real" ones. EboyLOL

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

Who cares who atheists trust? I've noticed some insecurity amongst them....just from reading posts here...not all are insecure...but the majority are.

jointed

Some guy published a bokk titled "How science proves God does not exist." :lol:

All it was was that "If God exists, then He should be measurable by science" and then his book was "God can't be measured by science, so He doesn't exist." :lol::lol::lol:

haha how stupid :lol:

It reminds me of a debate I saw on ABC. Christians claimed that they could prove that God exist without using the bible..........their only arguement was that "A painting requires a painter, a creation requires a creator". The atheists quickly put an end to their foolishness though :lol: :lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAKEZhjlkxU

Even I have to admit, that was a crappy argument. . . . . .

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

Some guy published a bokk titled "How science proves God does not exist." :lol:

All it was was that "If God exists, then He should be measurable by science" and then his book was "God can't be measured by science, so He doesn't exist." :lol::lol::lol:

Silver_Dragon17

I think there was more to the title, but I seriously saw this book in BAM two days ago. Your link is actually hilarious, as not even Google is stupid enough to make such a claim!

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"]I tend to see many more "Science Disproves God"-type threads then "God is Real" ones. CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

The Muslims don't want God to be real either. . . . .

quiglythegreat

I was waiting for this.

WRONG GOD.

I am so sick and tired of the biased veiw that Christians, Muslims, and Jews worship the same God.

They originated in the same area. That DOES NOT mean that they are the same.

Muslims don't want the Judeo God to exist because that would prove Islam wrong, now wouldn't it?

Are you retarded????? Hinduism has NOTHING to do wiht Islam. Arabs are NOWHERE near what Indians are ehtnically. They are all three abrahamic religions. Dont give me you bullsh**. The Koran even mentions that the ANGEL GABRIEL was the one who talked to Mohammed. Gabriel also told Mary that she was pregnatn with Jesus. They are all three abrahimc relgions. I really hope you were kidding

[QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"][QUOTE="quiglythegreat"][QUOTE="Silver_Dragon17"]

The Muslims don't want God to be real either. . . . .

Gaber1999

I was waiting for this.

WRONG GOD.

I am so sick and tired of the biased veiw that Christians, Muslims, and Jews worship the same God.

They originated in the same area. That DOES NOT mean that they are the same.

Muslims don't want the Judeo God to exist because that would prove Islam wrong, now wouldn't it?

Are you retarded????? Hinduism has NOTHING to do wiht Islam. Arabs are NOWHERE near what Indians are ehtnically. They are all three abrahamic religions. Dont give me you bullsh**. The Koran even mentions that the ANGEL GABRIEL was the one who talked to Mohammed. Gabriel also told Mary that she was pregnatn with Jesus. They are all three abrahimc relgions. I really hope you were kidding

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"] Everything. If they were secure in the belief that God doesn't exist then they would feel no need to argue with theists.EboyLOL

That is pretty funny. Take the word "How" out and you get 3 results. Take "science proves" out and you get over 314,000.:PCptJSparrow

:lol: That's no surprise.

[QUOTE="EboyLOL"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"] Everything. If they were secure in the belief that God doesn't exist then they would feel no need to argue with theists.CptJSparrow

[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="EboyLOL"] Is there another reason that people make "God isn't real because of Science" threads that I am not aware of aside from attempting to "defeat" theists? I am virtually an atheist, and I feel no reason to do this because I am secure with the fact that God does not exist, and if he did, I doubt he would take the form of a God that many religions make him out to be.EboyLOL

I have yet to read a topic made to "raise awareness" and not to argue to solidify one's beliefs. There may be atheists who genuinly wish to make people aware of other beliefs based on science, but I have yet to see them on this forum.EboyLOL

Agreed. I've known atheists in real life and none of them ever spent their every waking moment trying to belittle the beliefs of another. They stated their stance and moved on. I don't care what anyone personally believes...though I don't like to be called a moron or idiot because they don't like my beliefs.

On the other hand, the lack of logic from both sidesinOTon the issue has it's amusing side. Yes, I've seen Christians totally misrepresent Christianity...they aren't above being entertainment either.

Those secure in their beliefs DO have tolerance for others.