Ron Paul '08

Is anybody here supporting Ron Paul for president?

I'm all for the guy.

He has a tremendous following stemming from the internet, and is raising more money (setting records actually) than any other republican candidate, despite the media's constant suggestion that he has no chance.

I support him, and I plan to vote for him.

He has no chance.B05T0N

He has no chance.B05T0N

yeah, thats exactly what the mainstream media, and frontrunning republican candidates are constantly trying to suggest. yet he is, regardless of the polls, the most liked republican candidate.

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

[QUOTE="B05T0N"]He has no chance.ronniepage588

yeah, thats exactly what the mainstream media, and frontrunning republican candidates are constantly trying to suggest. yet he is, regardless of the polls, the most liked republican candidate.

I sense contradiction

I don't vote for republicans. . . their too religious based.Click_Clock

yes because having themoral values the bible teaches is such a horrible thing :roll:

He was on the colbert report right? Seemed like an okay guy, but I'd still prefer Oboma.

Truth be told, I haven't paid much attention to the Republican candidates? What's he for?darkmoney52

thats okay, give him a chance. just google him. He is basically the only intelligent Republican, and regardless of the party he is running for (even though he is a true libertarian and and independent) he is one of the best, smartest, and most honest and consistent candidates overall. He is a true republican, and has never let the ideas of the neo-conservatives consume. look him up on youtube, he has his own profile and he has a tremendous and wildly recognize internet following, especially on youtube. he absolutely dominates debates and the audience always votes him as the debate winner. i garuantee that if you spend a little bit of time researching him, you will like the guy. whether you chose to support him or not, I'm sure you will like the guy.

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]I don't vote for republicans. . . their too religious based.Bill900

yes because having themoral values the bible teaches is such a horrible thing :roll:

[QUOTE="Bill900"]

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]I don't vote for republicans. . . their too religious based.bman784

yes because having themoral values the bible teaches is such a horrible thing :roll:

Huckabee has quickly climbed up my list for worst Republican candidate.

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

en-z-io

i don't understand why people think he ideas are radical, its all based on the constitution. whats wrong with his immigration ideas?

[QUOTE="Bill900"]

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]I don't vote for republicans. . . their too religious based.bman784

yes because having themoral values the bible teaches is such a horrible thing :roll:

I think that's a clear example of how weather or not someone is religeous has little effect on their personality. Huckabee is a fearful and hateful man, so that's how he interprets the bible. It's far from universal.

you obviously don't know anything about Ron Paul. To simply generalize people like that is very ignorant.ronniepage588

who are you responding to here?

if you're gonna reply to someone, please quote them so we know who you're directing your response at

[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Bill900"]

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]I don't vote for republicans. . . their too religious based.darkmoney52

yes because having themoral values the bible teaches is such a horrible thing :roll:

I think that's a clear example of how weather or not someone is religeous has little effect on their personality. Huckabee is a fearful and hateful man, so that's how he interprets the bible. It's far from universal.

i don't understand how ANY of this relates to Ron Paul. He doesn't ever talk about religion nor does he have any religious basis to his ideals. his bible is the constitution.

[QUOTE="en-z-io"]

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

ronniepage588

i don't understand why people think he ideas are radical, its all based on the constitution. whats wrong with his immigration ideas?

Well, doesn't he support tighter border security a la a fence?

[QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Bill900"]

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]I don't vote for republicans. . . their too religious based.darkmoney52

yes because having themoral values the bible teaches is such a horrible thing :roll:

I think that's a clear example of how weather or not someone is religeous has little effect on their personality. Huckabee is a fearful and hateful man, so that's how he interprets the bible. It's far from universal.

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]you obviously don't know anything about Ron Paul. To simply generalize people like that is very ignorant.Bill900

who are you responding to here?

if you're gonna reply to someone, please quote them so we know who you're directing your response at

sorry about that. i came back to that and forgot who i was talking to and deleted it lol

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"]

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

en-z-io

i don't understand why people think he ideas are radical, its all based on the constitution. whats wrong with his immigration ideas?

Well, doesn't he support tighter border security a la a fence?

That's not exactly radical for a republican.

[QUOTE="en-z-io"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"]

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

darkmoney52

i don't understand why people think he ideas are radical, its all based on the constitution. whats wrong with his immigration ideas?

Well, doesn't he support tighter border security a la a fence?

That's not exactly radical for a republican.

I never stated that this particular position was radical. I merely said that I disagreed with this stance.

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"]

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

en-z-io

i don't understand why people think he ideas are radical, its all based on the constitution. whats wrong with his immigration ideas?

Well, doesn't he support tighter border security a la a fence?

uh...no. lol where did you hear that one?

[QUOTE="en-z-io"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"]

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

ronniepage588

i don't understand why people think he ideas are radical, its all based on the constitution. whats wrong with his immigration ideas?

Well, doesn't he support tighter border security a la a fence?

uh...no. lol where did you hear that one?

The fact that he voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006?

[QUOTE="darkmoney52"][QUOTE="bman784"][QUOTE="Bill900"]

[QUOTE="Click_Clock"]I don't vote for republicans. . . their too religious based.bman784

yes because having themoral values the bible teaches is such a horrible thing :roll:

I think that's a clear example of how weather or not someone is religeous has little effect on their personality. Huckabee is a fearful and hateful man, so that's how he interprets the bible. It's far from universal.

well Ron Paul doesn't do that. I don't think I have ever seen/heard him speak about religion and how it plays a role in his life like the other candidates all do

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"]

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

en-z-io

i don't understand why people think he ideas are radical, its all based on the constitution. whats wrong with his immigration ideas?

Well, doesn't he support tighter border security a la a fence?

uh...no. lol where did you hear that one?

The fact that he voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006?

i apologize. but its not a part of his current agenda. he does want to make border security much stronger though. that is one tiny issue that goes back and forth between every candidate and i am not voting based on that alone. atleast he doesn't change his opinion on immigration week in and week out.

[QUOTE="en-z-io"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"]

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

ronniepage588

i don't understand why people think he ideas are radical, its all based on the constitution. whats wrong with his immigration ideas?

Well, doesn't he support tighter border security a la a fence?

uh...no. lol where did you hear that one?

The fact that he voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006?

i apologize. but its not a part of his current agenda. he does want to make border security much stronger though. that is one tiny issue that goes back and forth between every candidate and i am not voting based on that alone. atleast he doesn't change his opinion on immigration week in and week out.

Indeed. One of the reasons I still support him. I hope he wins the nomination, we need more honest candidates out there.

[QUOTE="en-z-io"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"][QUOTE="en-z-io"]

I like him. I like how he wants to uphold the Constitution and how he actually does what he says he will. It's interseting to see him want to return to the roots of Republicanism, i.e. smaller central government and larger state governments. I do not, on the other hand, agree with his ideas on immigration and abolition of most federal government institutions (other than defense department and a few select others). In the end, he's still my favorite Republican candidate though. He most likely wouldn't get his radical ideas past Congress, but his honesty would bring some good to the Presidency.

With all that said, I will still vote for the Democrats this time around. I support Kucinich the most, but I don't think he has any shot of becoming President. Obama would be my more 'mainstream' choice.

ronniepage588

i don't understand why people think he ideas are radical, its all based on the constitution. whats wrong with his immigration ideas?

Well, doesn't he support tighter border security a la a fence?

uh...no. lol where did you hear that one?

The fact that he voted for the Secure Fence Act of 2006?

i apologize. but its not a part of his current agenda. he does want to make border security much stronger though. that is one tiny issue that goes back and forth between every candidate and i am not voting based on that alone. atleast he doesn't change his opinion on immigration week in and week out.

another thing, most people seem to not have the right understanding of what he wants to do with some of the government institutions.

[QUOTE="ronniepage588"]

[QUOTE="B05T0N"]He has no chance.Bill900

yeah, thats exactly what the mainstream media, and frontrunning republican candidates are constantly trying to suggest. yet he is, regardless of the polls, the most liked republican candidate.

I sense contradiction

he is raising more money, and it wildly recognized that he has a much larger numbers through the internet. that doesn't sound totally plausible at first, but when you think about it, far far FAR more people are talking on the internet than on little phone call polling. its just odd that most polls weren't including his name half the time. and don't you find a bit surprising that he set the record for most money raised by a republican in a single day and that he has raised more money overall than any other republican. he struggling more with figuring out how to spend than how to raise it.

all you say is, he has no chance. why not? would you support him if he did have a chance?

[QUOTE="Bill900"][QUOTE="ronniepage588"]

[QUOTE="B05T0N"]He has no chance.ronniepage588

yeah, thats exactly what the mainstream media, and frontrunning republican candidates are constantly trying to suggest. yet he is, regardless of the polls, the most liked republican candidate.

I sense contradiction

he is raising more money, and it wildly recognized that he has a much larger numbers through the internet. that doesn't sound totally plausible at first, but when you think about it, far far FAR more people are talking on the internet than on little phone call polling. its just odd that most polls weren't including his name half the time. and don't you find a bit surprising that he set the record for most money raised by a republican in a single day and that he has raised more money overall than any other republican. he struggling more with figuring out how to spend than how to raise it.

all you say is, he has no chance. why not? would you support him if he did have a chance?

Maybe, but I'm guessing that those people who talk on the internet a lot instead of going to the polls will talk a lot on election day instead of going out there and voting.