[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="muscleserge"][QUOTE="mrbojangles25"] Guys, its all about oil.
And revenge.
The situation is this: Russia and the US made some sort of deal concerning a pipeline through Georgia. This was back before and during the Clinton administration. In short, Clinton screwed Russia on the deal but Russia was too busy dealing with post- Communism stuff to care about it. This is why there is the conflict now, and why the US is compelled to side with Georgia (fighting for independence, right...) and why Russia even bothered in the first place.
Now that Russia is an up-and-comer and entering the modern political economy, they feel wronged and now theyre seeking revenge. The best way to do this is via oil. So now Russia is going to Venezuela (they have oil) because Venezuela hates the US, and so does Russia, but Russia cant really say that so they have to come up with some excuse to side with the dude that hates the US so they can do it vicariously
just my two cents
muscleserge
Your close but missed the point a bit. The US and NATO (aka its b**ches) are putting missile defense systems on Russian borders, and even want to get Ukraine and Georgia into NATO. So what does Russia do? The exact same thing, get onto the US borders, a taste of its own medicine. There is a huge double standard in the world, because when the US does something it is fine, but when Russia does the same thing it is evil. Russia really doesn't take Chavez too seriously, but hey why not, given that the US is on the door step, Russia just wants to equalize.Russia is not the super power they used to be, what they're doing now is just unecessary. They should just shut up and step in line just like all the other easter European nations.
You couldn't be more wrong, Russia wields a global influence, though not militarily, but economically. Comparing Russia to the rest of eastern European countries, is like comparing Canada to Mexico. Russia is immensely powerful, and it is the only country who can stand up to the US, and of which the US is afraid of. Like it or not it is true. The only reason the is no war with Iran right now is because Russia is backing Iran.Russia isn't powerful. Their economy and infrastructure is weak and their military is outdated. And just look at their population, 140 million. Are you kidding me? The EU alone is enough to deter Russia. The only reason they're taken seriously is because they've got nukes, but we all know that bargainingwith nukes is the same as political and international suicide.
Look, the only thing stopping Russia from taking over the entire Europe is NATO. Russia has the man power, it has the tech. Russia has very good allies, such as Syria, Iran, India,, well basically all of middle east would support Russia, except for Pakistan. How is 140 million a small population? Germany didn't have this much, and they waged a global war. Russia would cut all communications in Europe first, the eliminate power plants with missile or air strikes, and then let loose the bombers. No nukes necessary. Russia still has all the intel on western Europe, and all the invasion plant left over from the USSR. Germany knows it, France knows it, The UK knows it, but is too proud to admit it. If it wansn't for the US all of europe would be speaking Russian right now. Also lets not forget that Russian GDP is higher then that of CanadaRussia has conscripts. When they get called for training, 60% show up. Their reserve forces use weaponry from the 1950 and 60s. Their active army gets to play with some neat toys on occasion, but they have to sell plane rides to tourists to pay for gas. The majority of their new tanks had to have their barrels retrofitted to fire old WWII shells because its the only thing they had in surplus.
Allies? I dont think many people want Russia to be the big boy on the block, even compared to the US. Most people still remember what the Soviet Union was like, and how horrible it was. Syria and Iran? I think Israel can handle them all by themselves. India? Not with the deals they have with the West.
They do have a large army, but its just...old and spent. Like George Foreman or Muhamad Ali. if Russia wants to be a big player in the 21st century, it will not be done by flexing muscles. They gotta be smart. Not to sound cliche, but its almost like Russia is living in the past.
And sorry, but a larger GDP than Canada? With no insult to my northern brethren, is that supposed to be funny?
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