Saudi people want to execute journalist for not having faith in Muhammad.

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#51 PernicioEnigma
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This stuff could be straight out of a Monty Python skit. Seriously, there're large groups of people in this world that are bat sh*t insane.
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#52 deactivated-61cc564148ef4
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] None of that is relative to the topic though. They want to execute someone for not having faith in Muhammad. It's is simply not right to do such a thing. The U.S. or the west has nothing to do with this story. What does it matter what we think of Muslims? It's not related to the topic.

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So then why do several people still talk about what they think of Muslims? I am simply responding to them. It's a discussion.

First of all, you didn't quote anybody, leaving me and everyone else to believe that you were responding to the topic. What you said wasn't relevant to the topic. The moral of the story is, if you want to respond to a specific poster and not the topic, quote that poster.

There are several people here who have made derogatory comments about religion and Islam, so instead of quoting them I just gave a statement that obviously (well I think it's obvious) was aimed at them

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#53 PernicioEnigma
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Under Islamic Law, this man is not worthy of recieving a punishment, and that's final.

Just like all of those brainwashed idiots in Afghanistan that stone women after accusing them of adultery, when infact, that punishment is only passed when there were 2 witnesses of the act. Not only that, they can't just be anybody of the street, they have to be two trustworthy people, who are appointed by the court.

If you study Islam, you would know that even explosives during war in most cases are Haram.

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wonderful, that's so much better.

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#54 Lonelynight
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I don't really understand why people are blaming religions, things like this happens because people are stupid and intolerant, not because they are religious.
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#55 Phaze-Two
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Nobody cares if a Christian rapes a women. For some reason his religion is irrelevant.

Nobody cares if an atheiast murders his parents. For some reason his belief is irrelevant.

Maybe some of you anti-relgion and anti-Islam people realise that all the media you get is filitered to give you interesting news?

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atheists are less trusted than muslims in the USA bud, don't even try to pull that one.

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And to think this country is on the human rights council for the UN.
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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Nobody cares if a Christian rapes a women. For some reason his religion is irrelevant.

Nobody cares if an atheiast murders his parents. For some reason his belief is irrelevant.

Maybe some of you anti-relgion and anti-Islam people realise that all the media you get is filitered to give you interesting news?

Phaze-Two

atheists are less trusted than muslims in the USA bud, don't even try to pull that one.

I don't live in the US but I don't know about that. The media hardly paints them in a bad light.

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#58 D4W1L4H
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[QUOTE="D4W1L4H"]

Under Islamic Law, this man is not worthy of recieving a punishment, and that's final.

Just like all of those brainwashed idiots in Afghanistan that stone women after accusing them of adultery, when infact, that punishment is only passed when there were 2 witnesses of the act. Not only that, they can't just be anybody of the street, they have to be two trustworthy people, who are appointed by the court.

If you study Islam, you would know that even explosives during war in most cases are Haram.

PernicioEnigma

wonderful, that's so much better.

It is, considering that no one was ever caught commiting adultery during the prophets time, or the time during the "rightly guided calipha." Then people began interpreting their own views (Taliban) and I honestly don't see how they could be using rocket launchers, killing civilians, and commiting suicide, when each of those acts are clearly outlined as Haram in the Quran. Evan something as small as purpously destroying a flower during war is seen as Haram.

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[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Nobody cares if a Christian rapes a women. For some reason his religion is irrelevant.

Nobody cares if an atheiast murders his parents. For some reason his belief is irrelevant.

Maybe some of you anti-relgion and anti-Islam people realise that all the media you get is filitered to give you interesting news?

Phaze-Two

atheists are less trusted than muslims in the USA bud, don't even try to pull that one.

Bullsh*t. Nobody cares about atheists in the U.S.
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#60 paratheos
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I don't really understand why people are blaming religions, things like this happens because people are stupid and intolerant, not because they are religious.Lonelynight
They are stupid and intolerant because their religion does not permit free thought. They want to kill the man because he disrespected a religious figure. If not for religion, do you think people would have been offended about this? How can this NOT be about religion? I think it's just insane to say that religion is blameless in this. It's a sign of mental deficiency in my opinion.
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What was worse was he retracted his statements.foxhound_fox
Fear can make people do that....
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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"]I don't really understand why people are blaming religions, things like this happens because people are stupid and intolerant, not because they are religious.paratheos
They are stupid and intolerant because their religion does not permit free thought. They want to kill the man because he disrespected a religious figure. If not for religion, do you think people would have been offended about this? How can this NOT be about religion? I think it's just insane to say that religion is blameless in this. It's a sign of mental deficiency in my opinion.

The jokes on them though, with the 72 virgins they also receive 72 mothers-in-law. ^ paraphrase of Christopher Hitchens
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And to think this country is on the human rights council for the UN.HoolaHoopMan
Well the UN is just a political tool....
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Link Last week, just before the anniversary of the Prophet Muhammad's birth, Hamza Kashgari, a 23-year-old Saudi writer in Jidda, took to his Twitter feed to reflect on the occasion. "On your birthday, I will say that I have loved the rebel in you, that you've always been a source of inspiration to me, and that I do not like the halos of divinity around you. I shall not pray for you," he wrote in one tweet. "On your birthday, I find you wherever I turn. I will say that I have loved aspects of you, hated others, and could not understand many more," he wrote in a second. "On your birthday, I shall not bow to you. I shall not kiss your hand. Rather, I shall shake it as equals do, and smile at you as you smile at me. I shall speak to you as a friend, no more," he concluded in a third. Twitter quickly flooded with responses to Kashgari, registering more than 30,000 within a day. He was accused of blasphemy, and enraged Saudis called for his death. By the time he removed the tweets and issued a long apology, backtracking on his comments and begging for forgiveness, the danger had already expanded beyond the Web. Someone posted Kashgari's home address in a YouTube video, and, his friends say, vigilantes came looking for him at his local mosque. The Saudi information minister banned Kashgari's local newspaper column and barred outlets across the country from publishing his work. Nasser al-Omar, an influential cleric, called for him to be tried in a Sharia court for apostasy, which is punishable by death. Other leading clerics decried Kashgari on their own, and Saudi Arabia's council of senior scholars issued a rare and harshly worded communique condemning him and his tweets and demanding that he be put on trial. Yesterday, Saudi Arabia's leading news site, SABQ, reported that the king himself had issued a warrant for Kashgari's arrest.paratheos



Such a peacful religion, just as they claim it is.

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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Nobody cares if a Christian rapes a women. For some reason his religion is irrelevant.

Nobody cares if an atheiast murders his parents. For some reason his belief is irrelevant.

Maybe some of you anti-relgion and anti-Islam people realise that all the media you get is filitered to give you interesting news?

SF_KiLLaMaN

atheists are less trusted than muslims in the USA bud, don't even try to pull that one.

Bullsh*t. Nobody cares about atheists in the U.S.

http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2006/UR_RELEASE_MIG_2816.html

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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

atheists are less trusted than muslims in the USA bud, don't even try to pull that one.

Phaze-Two

Bullsh*t. Nobody cares about atheists in the U.S.

http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2006/UR_RELEASE_MIG_2816.html

That doesn't much prove anything. If they give you a list and ask you to rate groups....someone is going to end up last. I never hear anyone ever talking about atheists.
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[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"][QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

atheists are less trusted than muslims in the USA bud, don't even try to pull that one.

Phaze-Two

Bullsh*t. Nobody cares about atheists in the U.S.

http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2006/UR_RELEASE_MIG_2816.html




Atheists don't kidnap people and execute them in the name of their God,

And Atheists dislike organised religion some even hate it, but never heard of one atheist say they wanted to impose a shariah law or force a caliphate on a country the majority of whom do not want it.

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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Bullsh*t. Nobody cares about atheists in the U.S.LJS9502_basic

http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2006/UR_RELEASE_MIG_2816.html

That doesn't much prove anything. If they give you a list and ask you to rate groups....someone is going to end up last. I never hear anyone ever talking about atheists.

i guess that means the study is wrong then, damn! how could anyone refute that argument? university of minnesota = fail because LJS9502_basic "never hears anyone ever talking about atheists"

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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Bullsh*t. Nobody cares about atheists in the U.S.OmenUK

http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2006/UR_RELEASE_MIG_2816.html




Atheists don't kidnap people and execute them in the name of their God,

And Atheists dislike organised religion some even hate it, but never heard of one atheist say they wanted to impose a shariah law or force a caliphate on a country the majority of whom do not want it.

yeah, its not like people are subject to fear mongering or anything. /sarcasm

jews aren't actually non-human but the holocaust did happen.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2006/UR_RELEASE_MIG_2816.html

Phaze-Two

That doesn't much prove anything. If they give you a list and ask you to rate groups....someone is going to end up last. I never hear anyone ever talking about atheists.

i guess that means the study is wrong then, damn! how could anyone refute that argument? university of minnesota = fail because LJS9502_basic "never hears anyone ever talking about atheists"

:roll: I suggest a few courses in statistics....if you pay attention in class...it'll open your eyes. But hey....live in your ignorance man...it's probably all you have.
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That doesn't much prove anything. If they give you a list and ask you to rate groups....someone is going to end up last. I never hear anyone ever talking about atheists.LJS9502_basic

i guess that means the study is wrong then, damn! how could anyone refute that argument? university of minnesota = fail because LJS9502_basic "never hears anyone ever talking about atheists"

:roll: I suggest a few courses in statistics....if you pay attention in class...it'll open your eyes. But hey....live in your ignorance man...it's probably all you have.

maybe i'll do that *signs up for classes at the university of minnesota*

btw, you really think i don't know you're trying to troll me now? I'm offically done taking you seriously, I used to respect you, not anymore, sorry. Is that what you wanted? Probably. idc though.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

i guess that means the study is wrong then, damn! how could anyone refute that argument? university of minnesota = fail because LJS9502_basic "never hears anyone ever talking about atheists"

Phaze-Two

:roll: I suggest a few courses in statistics....if you pay attention in class...it'll open your eyes. But hey....live in your ignorance man...it's probably all you have.

maybe i'll do that *signs up for classes at the university of minnesota*

btw, you really think i don't know you're trying to troll me now? I'm offically done taking you seriously, I used to respect you, not anymore, sorry. Is that what you wanted? Probably. idc though.

I was not trying to troll you. I answered your comment about the study because polls can be worded as such to illicit any answer sought. They should not be considered as factual. And then you came back and trolled me in the very next post. I responded on topic. You made it personal. You can feel however you want. I don't know you and I won't lose any sleep over the negativity you displayed here rather than having a conversation.
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And they wonder why Islam gets a bad rap in the Western world?

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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="SF_KiLLaMaN"] Bullsh*t. Nobody cares about atheists in the U.S.OmenUK

http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2006/UR_RELEASE_MIG_2816.html




Atheists don't kidnap people and execute them in the name of their God,

And Atheists dislike organised religion some even hate it, but never heard of one atheist say they wanted to impose a shariah law or force a caliphate on a country the majority of whom do not want it.

But Atheiasts have killed and raped. So I guess that makes them pretty bad?

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that area of the world is f*cked up. only way to put it

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[QUOTE="OmenUK"]

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

http://www1.umn.edu/news/news-releases/2006/UR_RELEASE_MIG_2816.html

OB-47




Atheists don't kidnap people and execute them in the name of their God,

And Atheists dislike organised religion some even hate it, but never heard of one atheist say they wanted to impose a shariah law or force a caliphate on a country the majority of whom do not want it.

But Atheiasts have killed and raped. So I guess that makes them pretty bad?

yeah, but they would be bad whether they were athiest or not

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Fear can make people do that....LJS9502_basic
Kind of defeats the purpose of "standing up for what one believes in."