school helps arange abortions without parental consent

Parents of school children in Seattle are learning a shocking lesson, The mother of a 15-year old girl recently discovered that Ballard High School helped her daughter get an abortion and never informed her.

Parents signed consent forms for off-school treatment thinking it was limited to emergency health care when the parents could not be reached.

When the 15-year old girl's pregnancy was confirmed, they counseled her on the options. The mother says they encouraged her to have an abortion and not tell her parents. She claims her daughter was told that if she informed her parents they would have to pay for the abortion, otherwise it's free.

As for the fact the girl was called a taxi and transported by herself to a clinic to have her abortion then driven back to finish her school day, officials say that's not unusual. They would not say how many girls have been helped to have an abortion.

Washington State is one of thirteen states that does not have either a parental consent or parental notification law. Girls of any age can obtain an abortion without having to tell a parent.

Source?SeraphimGoddess

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[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"]fox newsEngrish_Major

[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]Source?Snakewiseman

I lol'd.

Yes, and what am I supposed to be seeing?

If you can become pregnant without your parents' help, then you can end the pregnancy without the parents' help.Engrish_Major

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Well, I can't blame parents for being upset about it. That'ssomething that should probably be discussed with parents.

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]If you can become pregnant without your parents' help, then you can end the pregnancy without the parents' help.SeraphimGoddess

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[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]Source?Snakewiseman

The mother of the girl signed a consent form allowing the school to get further medical help for the girl - so no law broken

The girl is also from Washington state where girls are allowed to get an abortion without the consent of the parent - so no laws broken there

Here is the video is anyone is interested in seeing it - http://video.foxnews.com/v/4122563/school-helps-set-up-abortion-for-student/?playlist_id=87249

I dont see the big deal, really.

a school counselar can provide an objective source of information and advice concerning pregnancy and abortion, whereas a parent might be biased either through religion or other things.

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[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"] My thoughts exactly. Parents shouldn't think they have the right to control their children on matters this huge.[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"] fox newsSnakewiseman

fix the link and you should done this in the first place... dose your school teach about sources or do they just tell you copy and print?

here i will even make it open in a new tab/page for people won't lose this page

[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"][QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"] In the same Fox News report the reporter also said that the mother of the girl signed a weaver that gave the school permission to seek further medical care - so no laws were broken. Also this was in the Washington where girls can get an abortion without parental consent. Here is the video if anyone is interested in seeing it - [QUOTE="Snakewiseman"][QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]Source?despa1r_fact0r

Why did fox news even report this? Slow Obama day?

Man girls these days will just spread their legs to just about anything anytime.Kiuk

Why did fox news even report this? Slow Obama day?

kidsmelly

If you can become pregnant without your parents' help, then you can end the pregnancy without the parents' help.Engrish_Major

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]If you can become pregnant without your parents' help, then you can end the pregnancy without the parents' help.Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]If you can become pregnant without your parents' help, then you can end the pregnancy without the parents' help.Theokhoth

[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"][QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"] fox newsdespa1r_fact0r

Well, I can't blame parents for being upset about it. That'ssomething that should probably be discussed with parents.

DJ-Lafleur

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="Snakewiseman"] The mother of the girl signed a consent form allowing the school to get further medical help for the girl - so no law broken The girl is also from Washington state where girls are allowed to get an abortion without the consent of the parent - so no laws broken there Here is the video is anyone is interested in seeing it - http://video.foxnews.com/v/4122563/school-helps-set-up-abortion-for-student/?playlist_id=87249despa1r_fact0r

[QUOTE="Engrish_Major"]If you can become pregnant without your parents' help, then you can end the pregnancy without the parents' help.Theokhoth

Only in states with laws requiring parental consent.

Man girls these days will just spread their legs to just about anything anytime.Kiuk

Right, cuz she got herself pregnant. :roll: I love when people blame the woman and only the woman for an unplanned pregnancy.

I'm not surprised. the Socialist Republic of Washington does voluntarily pay for elective abortions. That said, I'm glad none of this was subsidized by Federal dollars, and I'm glad that I dont live in Washington. Unbelievable how some states do this.

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"] the thing was she thought the form was for basic things like sickness broken bones... abortion she did not think was on the balletSnakewiseman

[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"][QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"]So her argument is her lack of understanding/reading the contract? No laws were broken.despa1r_fact0r

[QUOTE="Snakewiseman"][QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"]So her argument is her lack of understanding/reading the contract? No laws were broken.despa1r_fact0r

I dont know about the law, but this is wrong on so many levels. A contract is just consent written down. How can you really consent to something you don't understand?

If a person has no reading comprehension and only knows how to write his name, and you get him to sign a contract for a 199.99$/month cell phone contract, SHOULD a court enforce it in a sane society?

Where did she get the money for it? Operations are ****ing expensive, and they couldn't have billed it through the parent's insurance without the parent finding out before it even happened.

"She only found out after the fact when her daughter had an unrelatedhealth problem and finally revealed she had terminated a pregnancy."

Does that woman not check her bills?

Well, I can't blame parents for being upset about it. That'ssomething that should probably be discussed with parents.

DJ-Lafleur

Maybe so but parents shouldn't blindly sign consent forms involving their kids that they don't fully comprehend...

Where did she get the money for it? Operations are ****ing expensive, and they couldn't have billed it through the parent's insurance without the parent finding out before it even happened.

"She only found out after the fact when her daughter had an unrelatedhealth problem and finally revealed she had terminated a pregnancy."

Does that woman not check her bills?

Guppy507

Its the law in that state so the parent or parents cant do much about it.

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="Snakewiseman"] its not a contract its the same permission slip I had my parents sign theres no abortion in the slip obviously pretty much they pressured her to do it and something as serious as an abortion should be shared with the parentsdanwallacefan

I dont know about the law, but this is wrong on so many levels. A contract is just consent written down. How can you really consent to something you don't understand?

If a person has no reading comprehension and only knows how to write his name, and you get him to sign a contract for a 199.99$/month cell phone contract, SHOULD a court enforce it in a sane society?

A permission slip is just another name for a contract. The permission slip gives the school the right to get the student "further medical care" so the girl goes to the nurse or guidance counselor for advice for further medical care, and then they help her out and it's within the law. I'm not Contractual lawyer - but it seems that school did what was in the bounds of the contract.despa1r_fact0r

I dont know about the law, but this is wrong on so many levels. A contract is just consent written down. How can you really consent to something you don't understand?

If a person has no reading comprehension and only knows how to write his name, and you get him to sign a contract for a 199.99$/month cell phone contract, SHOULD a court enforce it in a sane society?

[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"] A permission slip is just another name for a contract. The permission slip gives the school the right to get the student "further medical care" so the girl goes to the nurse or guidance counselor for advice for further medical care, and then they help her out and it's within the law. I'm not Contractual lawyer - but it seems that school did what was in the bounds of the contract.despa1r_fact0r

I dont know about the law, but this is wrong on so many levels. A contract is just consent written down. How can you really consent to something you don't understand?

If a person has no reading comprehension and only knows how to write his name, and you get him to sign a contract for a 199.99$/month cell phone contract, SHOULD a court enforce it in a sane society?

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="danwallacefan"] Does the State of washington define elective abortions as "medical care", and was the mother aware of this?

I dont know about the law, but this is wrong on so many levels. A contract is just consent written down. How can you really consent to something you don't understand?

If a person has no reading comprehension and only knows how to write his name, and you get him to sign a contract for a 199.99$/month cell phone contract, SHOULD a court enforce it in a sane society?

Snakewiseman

The girl may not have wanted the effect of what a pregnancy dose to the body to happen to her, not to mention her current mental health and what would her mental health be durning the pregnancy and after.

[QUOTE="despa1r_fact0r"][QUOTE="danwallacefan"] Does the State of washington define elective abortions as "medical care", and was the mother aware of this?

I dont know about the law, but this is wrong on so many levels. A contract is just consent written down. How can you really consent to something you don't understand?

If a person has no reading comprehension and only knows how to write his name, and you get him to sign a contract for a 199.99$/month cell phone contract, SHOULD a court enforce it in a sane society?

danwallacefan

My thoughts exactly. Parents shouldn't think they have the right to control their children on matters this huge.

SeraphimGoddess

Until a child turns 18 years of age, that child is a ward of his or her parents and the parents should maintain absolute control over such decisions regarding the child.

If a child defies a parent in this way, then it should be the parent's right to kick the child out onto the street with no money, no clothes, and no food. As long as you live under your parent's roof, you should be absolutely bound to abide by their rules without question.