School uses student laptop webcams to spy on them at home

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#1 Tauruslink
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This is absolutely disgusting. This is a HUGE invasion of privacy that that school has no right to do. That school should be sued off the face of the earth.

Link: http://www.boingboing.net/2010/02/17/school-used-student.html

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#2 TheLittleReaper
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Wow that is really wrong, hopefully they put a stop to it...

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#3 spawnassasin
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wow

bigbrothers watching eh

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#4 Setsa
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If that's true, that is pretty screwed up....
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#5 GabuEx
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wtf?

Why would they even care what their students are doing at home?

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#6 194197844077667059316682358889
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wtf?

Why would they even carewhat their students are doing at home?

GabuEx
It might be sexy?
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#7 bebop013
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something similar to this happened when i was in HS. the school (i.e our new principal and coach) was giving write up slips, detention, suspension, and threatening expulsion over the content of students myspace pages.
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#8 comp_atkins
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sick... maybe i should put some electrical tape over the webcam in the laptop my work gave me...
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#9 cjek
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That's wrong and completely illegal. Nobody should have the right to remotely watch people in their own home without consent; and even if it was in say a contract, was it made explicitly clear that they would use the webcam to spy?.
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#10 sinistergoggles
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This is so wrong; I'm not sure I belive this.

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#11 Silent-Hal
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"Improper behaviour in his home"? That's both hilarious and insanely creepy in equal measure.
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#12 xXBuffJeffXx
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That school is basically right up the road from where I live...

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#13 metroidfood
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Wait, punishing them for things they did in their own home? Idiots, this is one case where they deserve to get sued.

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#14 ghoklebutter
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So. Wrong. :|
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#15 mixedplanet
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1984 coming moving closer day by day.... yea i know its 2010 :P But Orwell was right!

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#16 BluePaw-
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Oh ma gawd! It's tha new world order!

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#17 Tannerr33
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Someone is going to lose their job and someone else is going to become much richer because of this.

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#18 xTheExploited
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So. Wrong. :|ghoklebutter
But it feels so right!
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#19 awesome3496
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This is sick.

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#20 Same_Jeans_On
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how can that even be allowed. I can't even think of anywhere even suggesting they do that where I live. In my school pupils and parents just wouldnt take that kind of ****.

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#21 Tauruslink
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

wtf?

Why would they even carewhat their students are doing at home?

xaos

It might be sexy?

I know you're joking but in all seriousness, these kids probably undress while those computers are in the room. I'm sure one of those administrators was checking the cameras every night for "inappropriate" behavior. ;)

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#22 mfp16
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I'm going to reserve judgement before we actually hear if it's true. It's posted on a random blog by who knows who. The situation is so over the top ridiculous I'm going to file this in "too silly to be true"... If it is true though that is just insane.
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#23 Toriko42
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:lol: This is awful
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#24 horgen
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This is... Just so wrong on so many levels. :|
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#25 MagnumPI
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I read a bit of the article and it seems like the administration isn't very bright. Well... if they were geniuses in the first place we wouldn't be paying them less than what we pay a man whom collects refuse for a living.

What the **** makes them think a students personal life is any of their business. Their business is their own business. I thought schools taught law, they did when I attended. Apparently they no longer do since the teachers no longer know their own civilboundaries.

I never liked webcams for this reason. It's why I unplug my microphone when I'm not using it. As long as you're online anyone can infiltrate your network andintercept all forms of transmission as well as hijack peripherals.

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#26 Treflis
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I'm very sure that is illegal.
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#27 shinian
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The school administration and board will get their asses handed down in the court of law. I wonder if pupils sued the school as an institution or persons running the surveillance program. If the later, someone will be looking into some serious jail time

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#29 narutoisapirate
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how does that work..?

anyways, that is disgustiing, why do they care?

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#30 horgen
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The school administration and board will get their asses handed down in the court of law. I wonder if pupils sued the school as an institution or persons running the surveillance program. If the later, someone will be looking into some serious jail time

shinian
The ones doing this should be getting jailtime anyway if this really is true....
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#31 Fireboy78
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If it's happened to me, I sue them. If failed, put tape on webcam. It's simple as that.

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#32 GabuEx
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I never liked webcams for this reason. It's why I unplug my microphone when I'm not using it. As long as you're online anyone can infiltrate your network andintercept all forms of transmission as well as hijack peripherals.

MagnumPI

Unless some program on your computer is transmitting data from your webcam or your microphone to another destination on the internet (and even if it was it would probably be encrypted, unless it was malicious), no one can get any information from them. You can't intercept what doesn't exist.

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#33 Tauruslink
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That school is basically right up the road from where I live...

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Go egg them for us! :D

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#35 z4twenny
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i assuredly would've been the student who took it home, formatted it and installed whatever i wanted. thats been my MO when i've had free computers given to me (and its happened a couple times)

but this is ridiculous, just absurd. hopefully the school gets sued and shut down. i don't see how it ever got this far, how many civil liberties and rights have just been tossed aside.

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#36 xXBuffJeffXx
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[QUOTE="xXBuffJeffXx"]

That school is basically right up the road from where I live...

Tauruslink

Go egg them for us! :D

Well, I'm in school in Pittsburgh, but when I'm home in 3 weeks I will!

They might be aware of this conversation, though. Maybe they're even watching. :shock:

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#37 LJS9502_basic
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It's the school's lap tops....so they can put what they want on it.
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#38 danwallacefan
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If this were a private school I'd be more sympathetic to the school, but this is a public school. If they're worried about their students misusing their computers, then they shouldn't give it to them in the first place, they shouldn't invade their privacy unless the school explicitly informs them that they can and will use their computers to spy on them.

That said, I hope the plaintiffs win this lawsuit, and I'm confident that they will.

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#39 danwallacefan
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It's the school's lap tops....so they can put what they want on it.LJS9502_basic
not if the school is payed for by the State.

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#40 carrot-cake
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It's the school's lap tops....so they can put what they want on it.LJS9502_basic

They have absolutely no right to spy on their students outside of school, especially in their homes.

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#41 VaguelyTagged
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i knew something is wrong with schools

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#42 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's the school's lap tops....so they can put what they want on it.danwallacefan

not if the school is payed for by the State.

Ah yeah. Even if the school is public. Still the property of the school...not the student.
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#43 Ingenemployee
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Wow, that's messed up. Sucks for the lawyer that has to defend the school.

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#44 danwallacefan
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[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's the school's lap tops....so they can put what they want on it.LJS9502_basic

not if the school is payed for by the State.

Ah yeah. Even if the school is public. Still the property of the school...not the student.

State property is property of the people, and the people didn't decide to invade other people's privacy.

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[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's the school's lap tops....so they can put what they want on it.LJS9502_basic

not if the school is payed for by the State.

Ah yeah. Even if the school is public. Still the property of the school...not the student.

And that makes it okay to spy on students in their homes?
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[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's the school's lap tops....so they can put what they want on it.LJS9502_basic

not if the school is payed for by the State.

Ah yeah. Even if the school is public. Still the property of the school...not the student.

Who it belongs to is negligible because the laptop was misused. That's the problem here; particularly if students were not made explicitly aware that this could happen. You're essentially saying, "the school owned the laptop so they can do anything illegal they want with it."

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#47 carrot-cake
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[QUOTE="danwallacefan"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]It's the school's lap tops....so they can put what they want on it.LJS9502_basic

not if the school is payed for by the State.

Ah yeah. Even if the school is public. Still the property of the school...not the student.


Again, that doesnt give the school the right to spy on the student outside of school

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#48 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="danwallacefan"] not if the school is payed for by the State.

horgen123

Ah yeah. Even if the school is public. Still the property of the school...not the student.

And that makes it okay to spy on students in their homes?

Oh I didn't address that. I merely said they could put what they wanted on the laptop. I wonder why no one disabled them though.

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#49 xXBuffJeffXx
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[QUOTE="horgen123"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Ah yeah. Even if the school is public. Still the property of the school...not the student.LJS9502_basic

And that makes it okay to spy on students in their homes?

Oh I didn't address that. I merely said they could put what they wanted on the laptop. I wonder why no one disabled them though.

Maybe because the school district did this covertly and illegally and never made the students expressly aware of it?

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#50 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="danwallacefan"] not if the school is payed for by the State.

xXBuffJeffXx

Ah yeah. Even if the school is public. Still the property of the school...not the student.

Who it belongs to is negligible because the laptop was misused. That's the problem here; particularly if students were not made explicitly aware that this could happen. You're essentially saying, "the school owned the laptop so they can do anything illegal they want with it."

Now where did I say it was okay for the school to spy? I said it was their property...and they could put what they want on the lap top. Too many people reading things not said.