Seatbelts

I think you are a fool if you choose to not wear a seatbelt.

It shouldn't be a law though, why make a criminal out of someone who isn't?

Always. And if I am the driver, I always make sure everyone is wearing seatbelts. That includes passengers in the back too. the_ChEeSe_mAn2

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"]I drive which i tend to take turns fast. IF i don't wear seatbelt i can slide too much

br0kenrabbit

That's....about as dumb as not wearing a seatbelt. If you fish-tail you may not regain control in time to prevent an accident.

And that also means you're probably speeding, which is dumb in and of itself.

Not if you're a driving enthusiast and know what you're doing. We have way too many speed limits. There should be a speed limit for each lane. 45 for the right, 60 for the left.

So I'm being nice and offering a neighbor a ride about an hour ago since her car is in the shop. We get in, I buckle up, and wait for her to.

She doesn't.

So I tell her, "You'll need to buckle up."

She then goes on a rant about how her uncle was in a car wreck and 'they' said he would have died if he had been wearing his seatbelt, this that and the other thing.

So once she finishes, I'm like "you'll need to buckle up."

So then she huffs and puffs and buckles up, but then takes off the shoulder strap and puts it behind her.

"Properly," I said, at which point I get another long rant about personal freedom and decisions.

I still haven't started the car, so we just sit there in silence for a minute before she finally huffs "fine" and does herself up properly. Then off we go.

Seriously, everyone I know who doesn't wear seatbelts has the same story about an uncle or a cousin (never someone I have met) who 'they' said would have died had they been wearing a seatbelt. It's old, tired and stupid.

Most of the road fatalities I read about usually mentions "seatbelts were not in use". Is it so damn hard to understand basic laws of physics?

Seriously.

br0kenrabbit

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MakeMeaSammitch

[QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

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DiceofSpades

Yeah why did they close that? This is off-topic you can do that.

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"][QUOTE="MakeMeaSammitch"]

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GOGOGOGURT

Yeah why did they close that? This is off-topic you can do that.

Putting the strap behind the back is cool and you don't look look embarrassing, which is why I always do it. Seatbelts were originally for larger individuals to hold them back without accidentally hitting the wheel anyway. Only the bottom part of the seat belt protects you in most cases as that;s what;s causing pressure up to the top part to pull you back. Without it, it is arguably, more effective.DiceofSpades

The whole reason they added the shoulder harness in the first place was because lap-only belts were breaking peoples lower spine.

I can't believe how many people fail to even wear a seatbelt, I bet there are people in this world that even if the cure for cancer was found wouldn't take it because of some forsaken reason. Seatbelts save lives, please wear them, or don't and let natural selection do its thing.

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]You'd have a point if it weren't for the fact that other drivers would be at risk too if you fly out your windshield onto traffic.k2theswiss

Always. Your friend needs to understand that it's your car, and thus your rules.

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] Roads should be privatized so that the owners of the roads can determine these kinds of rules for themselves.Laihendi

Plus the private sector does most everything 10x better than the government.

[QUOTE="Wolfetan"]Nope, you come off very arrogant.br0kenrabbit

You come off as a dick. Deal.

Diceofspades, make a thread about statistics. Teach usdave123321

[QUOTE="Laihendi"][QUOTE="k2theswiss"] lol yay lets be like Texas by spend tax money to build a road then let company make money on it. makes sense. anyways no. k2theswiss

They suck btw and bring traffic to a crawl.

Personally, as an advocate of driving too fast all the time. I oppose that.

Putting the strap behind the back is cool and you don't look look embarrassing, which is why I always do it. Seatbelts were originally for larger individuals to hold them back without accidentally hitting the wheel anyway. Only the bottom part of the seat belt protects you in most cases as that;s what;s causing pressure up to the top part to pull you back. Without it, it is arguably, more effective.DiceofSpades

You are a fucking moron

They should be worn whenever you're in the car. You're more likely to end up dead on the day you don't wear one.

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"]Putting the strap behind the back is cool and you don't look look embarrassing, which is why I always do it. Seatbelts were originally for larger individuals to hold them back without accidentally hitting the wheel anyway. Only the bottom part of the seat belt protects you in most cases as that;s what;s causing pressure up to the top part to pull you back. Without it, it is arguably, more effective.konvikt_17

You are a **** moron

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"]Putting the strap behind the back is cool and you don't look look embarrassing, which is why I always do it. Seatbelts were originally for larger individuals to hold them back without accidentally hitting the wheel anyway. Only the bottom part of the seat belt protects you in most cases as that;s what;s causing pressure up to the top part to pull you back. Without it, it is arguably, more effective.DiceofSpades

You are afucking moron

and just imagine how much worse the injury could have been if the upper strap wasnt there.

sure it may cause injuries but not major ones. id rather have some minor burns/scrapes around my chest and neck area from the seatbelt then to have a fucked up back for the rest of my life.

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

You are **** moron

konvikt_17

and just imagine how much worse the injury could have been if the upper strap wasnt there.

sure it may cause injuries but not major ones. id rather have some minor burns/scrapes around my chest and neck area from the seatbelt then to have a **** up back for the rest of my life.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"] No I am not. There have been more injuries in the upper areas of the boy due to the strap than with those who put it behind their backs. Unless you have adjustable seatbelts, which a lot of cars don't, and for your iformation with a lot of those people, they have no choice but to have the top part of the seat belt go across their neck which is dangerous.DiceofSpades

and just imagine how much worse the injury could have been if the upper strap wasnt there.

sure it may cause injuries but not major ones. id rather have some minor burns/scrapes around my chest and neck area from the seatbelt then to have a **** up back for the rest of my life.

And how many Decapitations have happened in a car accident where the person had used the upper belt?

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

and just imagine how much worse the injury could have been if the upper strap wasnt there.

sure it may cause injuries but not major ones. id rather have some minor burns/scrapes around my chest and neck area from the seatbelt then to have a **** up back for the rest of my life.

konvikt_17

And how many Decapitations have happened in a car accident where the person had used the upper belt?

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"] Decapitation is better than a potentially heal-able damaged back?DiceofSpades

And how many Decapitations have happened in a car accident where the person had used the upper belt?

in other words, you're a fucking moron like previously stated.

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

And how many Decapitations have happened in a car accident where the person had used the upper belt?

konvikt_17

in other words, you're a **** moron like previously stated.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"] More than serious injuries for having a belt behind your back?DiceofSpades

in other words, you're a **** moron like previously stated.

I call em as i see em.

if there are more decapitations from people using the upper belt than from people not using he uper belt, then how about you post some links as proof.

until then, your just talking out your ass.

i like that "or serious neck/head injuries" that you decided to add to try and cover your bases.

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

in other words, you're a **** moron like previously stated.

konvikt_17

I call em as i see em.

if there are more decapitations from people using the upper belt than from people not using he uper belt, then how about you post some links as proof.

until then, your just talking out your ass.

i like that "or serious neck/head injuries" that you decided to add to try and cover your bases.

You folks know that seat belts are adjustible right? You don't have to wear it across your neck lol.Just move it down to suit your height.

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[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"] I am a moron because there are more decapitations or serious neck/head injuries compared to SERIOUS injuries from having a belt behinf their back? And if calling names is all you do no wonder we are getting nowhere. Did I insult you?DiceofSpades

I call em as i see em.

if there are more decapitations from people using the upper belt than from people not using he uper belt, then how about you post some links as proof.

until then, your just talking out your ass.

i like that "or serious neck/head injuries" that you decided to add to try and cover your bases.

Haha, ive got nothing to prove.

you're the one that said not wearing the upper belt is better. i merely called you a moron for saying that.

you however seem to think there have several decapitations due to people using the upper belt, to which i asked for proof to your statement.

proof is on you, not me. dumbass.

You folks know that seat belts are adjustible right? You don't have to wear it across your neck lol.Just move it down to suit your height.

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

I call em as i see em.

if there are more decapitations from people using the upper belt than from people not using he uper belt, then how about you post some links as proof.

until then, your just talking out your ass.

i like that "or serious neck/head injuries" that you decided to add to try and cover your bases.

konvikt_17

Haha, ive got nothing to prove.

you're the one that said not wearing the upper belt is better. i merely called you a moron for saying that.

you however seem to think there have several decapitations due to people using the upper belt, to which i asked for proof to your statement.

proof is on you, not me. dumbass.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"] Do you have links showing what you are claiming?DiceofSpades

Haha, ive got nothing to prove.

you're the one that said not wearing the upper belt is better. i merely called you a moron for saying that.

you however seem to think there have several decapitations due to people using the upper belt, to which i asked for proof to your statement.

proof is on you, not me. dumbass.

well that answers my questions.

you're just talking out your ass.

carry on then.

[QUOTE="DiceofSpades"][QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

Haha, ive got nothing to prove.

you're the one that said not wearing the upper belt is better. i merely called you a moron for saying that.

you however seem to think there have several decapitations due to people using the upper belt, to which i asked for proof to your statement.

proof is on you, not me. dumbass.

konvikt_17

well that answers my questions.

you're just talking out your ass.

carry on then.

Putting the strap behind the back is cool and you don't look look embarrassing, which is why I always do it. Seatbelts were originally for larger individuals to hold them back without accidentally hitting the wheel anyway. Only the bottom part of the seat belt protects you in most cases as that;s what;s causing pressure up to the top part to pull you back. Without it, it is arguably, more effective.DiceofSpades

You are showing how ill informed you are about seatbelts and how they work. For at least 20 years, seatbelts have had to be of the single buckle type where you only have to use one buckle. Part of it is attached to the floorpan of the vehicle and the other is attaced in two places, one to the floorpan near the seat and the center post and the other which has a sprague clutch type gear in side is bolted to the door jamb (or b pillar). When you pull the chest strap across your chest, the protection offered from the pendulum swings forward in a crash, it engages said gear and keeps the belt from playing out, thus keeping you from hitting the dash, steering wheel or windshield. If you are putting it behind your back, you might look cool, but you increase the likelyhood of major injuries for not wearing it properly.

As far as decapitations, yeah, they happen, but it is due to the lap belt becoming the guillotine and not the shoulder belt. It happens when people who think they are cool, layimg the seat way back, gets in a wreck and end up sliding under the lap belt and under that dash. The cops in the city I live have told me of many stories of people loosing their heads due to that very reason. And yes, a 6'7" person can fit under the dash of a car, even the size of a Sentra. It isn't pretty.

Believe what you want, but you are way off base with your assumptions. Oh, I used to be an auto mechanic and have replace a few seat belts over the years. If you have a wreck and your car is repairable, your seat belts need replacing, period.

i'm the same way; if you want a ride in my car you will wear a seatbelt and will so properly or i'm not gonig anywhere.

[QUOTE="k2theswiss"][QUOTE="Laihendi"] 1. The roads are already built 2. Privatizing roads would relieve government of the responsibility of maintaining them, which would reduce government spending.MakeMeaSammitch

They suck btw and bring traffic to a crawl.

Personally, as an advocate of driving too fast all the time. I oppose that.

I was in a car that flipped. All the snow that hit my face I'm certain I would have been ejected from the car if I didn't have my seatbelt on.

My dad almost died in a head on collision a few years ago with a semi, the police told him if he was wearing a seatbelt he would have surely died. Luckily he flew out the side window into a ditch and survived, which wouldn't have been possible if he was wearing a seatbelt as they hold you into your seat.

Keep in mind, seatbelts dont always save your life, there are situations where they can and will kill you. I believe in liberty, so I don't think the government should be allowed to tell you that you have to buckle up, that should be your choice. But to answer the question, no I don't always use a seatbelt. If I'm in the drivers seat I will 99% of the time, if I'm in the passengers I sometimes forget or just don't bother because it's more comfortable.

Always. If my passengers are hesitant to put their seatbelts on, I'll tell em flatout without BS to put their seatbelts on or the car's not moving. They usually comply after hearing the tone of my voice and me staring at them.