Senate candidate Al Franken accused of anti-Christian bigotry

Apparently Al Franken(stein) is running for senate and he has a history of mocking Christianity and in particular of insulting Catholicism. An example is when he said "isn't Cardinal O'Connor an a**hole".

What are this guy's chances of actually being Senator if he is so disrespectful towards a large portion of Americans?

An example is when he said "isn't Cardinal O'Connor an a**hole".

JoeRatz16

but what if cardinal o connor really is an a**hole? i can't blame the guy for making fun of christianity, i do it all the time. it'd be nice to have a country run by people instead of religion.

Apparently Al Franken(stein) is running for senate and he has a history of mocking Christianity and in particular of insulting Catholicism. An example is when he said "isn't Cardinal O'Connor an a**hole".

What are this guy's chances of actually being Senator if he is so disrespectful towards a large portion of Americans?

JoeRatz16

As a voter from Minnesota (where he is running against incumbent Norm Coleman), I will do everything in my power (vote one time) to stop that douchebag from getting into office. The ahole hasn't even lived in MN for the past like 25 years.

I don't know much about the person himself, but from his remarks, they're neither good or in good taste.

There's just very little decency and respect nowadays. Societies can't function without it.

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Apparently Al Franken(stein) is running for senate and he has a history of mocking Christianity and in particular of insulting Catholicism. An example is when he said "isn't Cardinal O'Connor an a**hole".

What are this guy's chances of actually being Senator if he is so disrespectful towards a large portion of Americans?

seabiscuit8686

As a voter from Minnesota (where he is running against incumbent Norm Coleman), I will do everything in my power (vote one time) to stop that douchebag from getting into office. The ahole hasn't even lived in MN for the past like 25 years.

Good for you. Just be out there on Nov. 4!!

anti-christian.... so what?bsman00

I don't want this subject to blow up into any big proportions, but would Al Franken like it if there were virulent anti-Jewish remarks being made by senators? Would society at large stand for it?

All you need is a little respect and courtesy, it doesn't cost a penny but buys everything. And this is doubly true for those entrusted with power especially at the national level who need to look out for all their citiens within their jurisdiction.

[QUOTE="bsman00"]anti-christian.... so what?Hoobinator

I don't want this subject to blow up into any big proportions, but would Al Franken like it if there were virulent anti-Jewish remarks being made by senators? Would society at large stand for it?

All you need is a little respect and courtesy, it doesn't cost a penny but buys everything. And this is doubly true for those entrusted with power especially at the national level who need to look out for all their citiens within their jurisdiction.

The elections this year have been a complete demonstration of a lack of respect on all parts. Obama and McCain whining and moaning about each other and especially Franken and Coleman in MN. Just shut up already. We now know you are both douchebags, we just have to decided which is the smaller one (McCain and Coleman)

Apparently Al Franken(stein) is running for senate and he has a history of mocking Christianity and in particular of insulting Catholicism. An example is when he said "isn't Cardinal O'Connor an a**hole".

What are this guy's chances of actually being Senator if he is so disrespectful towards a large portion of Americans?

JoeRatz16

[QUOTE="bsman00"]anti-christian.... so what?Hoobinator

I don't want this subject to blow up into any big proportions, but would Al Franken like it if there were virulent anti-Jewish remarks being made by senators? Would society at large stand for it?

All you need is a little respect and courtesy, it doesn't cost a penny but buys everything. And this is doubly true for those entrusted with power especially at the national level who need to look out for all their citiens within their jurisdiction.

[QUOTE="JoeRatz16"]

Apparently Al Franken(stein) is running for senate and he has a history of mocking Christianity and in particular of insulting Catholicism. An example is when he said "isn't Cardinal O'Connor an a**hole".

What are this guy's chances of actually being Senator if he is so disrespectful towards a large portion of Americans?

Mr_sprinkles

Exactly, I mean, putting stein after his name automatically allows OT to see what angle you are coming from on this.

Doesn't he stand a chance only because the incumbent has a bad record and is considered a loser??

That's a serious question too.

I don't live anywhere near there so I really haven't paid much attention.

His SNL bits were pretty good but I can't say I agree with his political views.

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[QUOTE="bsman00"]anti-christian.... so what?xaos

I don't want this subject to blow up into any big proportions, but would Al Franken like it if there were virulent anti-Jewish remarks being made by senators? Would society at large stand for it?

All you need is a little respect and courtesy, it doesn't cost a penny but buys everything. And this is doubly true for those entrusted with power especially at the national level who need to look out for all their citiens within their jurisdiction.

I wasn't so much attacking Al Franken directly, like I stated in my first post I don't really know the man. The initial retort of "would Al Franken like it if there were virulent anti-Jewish remark" was more directed as a rhetorical question against bsman00's initial statement of being anti-Christian as irrelevant. Which I wanted to show that it is not acceptable, even if society has become ambivalent towards it.

And I was also reading at the bottom of the article:

"A Monday press release from the Catholic League accused Franken of "virulent anti-Catholicism," citing his mockery of the Eucharist, his ridicule of the Crucifixion, and his belittlement of practicing Catholics such as the Knights of Columbus.

The Catholic League also charged that Franken has "slandered" all priests as child molesters."

Yes the source is somewhat biased, and these are allegations, but I wasn't stating that Al Franken is neccessarily anti-Christian but just that a certain level of respect and courtesy needs to be given, especially for one who is running for a position of power. My first two posts in this thread were about that, an absract response to society at large.

I don't know much about the person himself, but from his remarks, they're neither good or in good taste.

There's just very little decency and respect nowadays. Societies can't function without it.

Hoobinator

Too many times these days you see people who say things which they later regret in politics. If people paid a little more attention and courtesy towards others we wouldn't be having half the problems with politicians mouthing off as we have. And yes we do need to hold these people to higher standards, they have greater powers which needs to be kept in check.

I fail to see the issue here.Sajo7

Replace "Christians" with "black people."

See the issue now? Should we be electing leaders who mock the very people who vote for them?

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]I fail to see the issue here.Theokhoth

Replace "Christians" with "black people."

See the issue now? Should we be electing leaders who mock the very people who vote for them?

Al Sharpton is an Ass ****. Really, do you find that offensive?

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]I fail to see the issue here.Guybrush_3

Replace "Christians" with "black people."

See the issue now? Should we be electing leaders who mock the very people who vote for them?

Al Sharpton is an Ass ****. Really, do you find that offensive?

No. But then, you're not talking about all black people.:|

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[QUOTE="Sajo7"]I fail to see the issue here.Theokhoth

Replace "Christians" with "black people."

See the issue now? Should we be electing leaders who mock the very people who vote for them?

Al Sharpton is an Ass ****. Really, do you find that offensive?

No. But then, you're not talking about all black people.:|

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Sajo7"]I fail to see the issue here.Theokhoth

Replace "Christians" with "black people."

See the issue now? Should we be electing leaders who mock the very people who vote for them?

Al Sharpton is an Ass ****. Really, do you find that offensive?

No. But then, you're not talking about all black people.:|

considering black people as a whole don't hold anything sacred I don't think this comparison is valid. (what would you compare mocking the eucarist to?)

considering black people as a whole don't hold anything sacred I don't think this comparison is valid. (what would you compare mocking the eucarist to?)

Guybrush_3

I don't get what you're talking about.:|

Considering that the Eucharist is one of the single most important symbols/traditions in all Catholicism, I'd consider mocking that to be the equivalent of mocking black history month.

To Sprinkles: Why should we elect a satirist into the Senate? Like someone else has said, he is expected to show respect to the people, not mock them.

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considering black people as a whole don't hold anything sacred I don't think this comparison is valid. (what would you compare mocking the eucarist to?)

Theokhoth

I don't get what you're talking about.:|

Considering that the Eucharist is one of the single most important symbols/traditions in all Catholicism, I'd consider mocking that to be the equivalent of mocking black history month.

To Sprinkles: Why should we elect a satirist into the Senate? Like someone else has said, he is expected to show respect to the people, not mock them.

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

considering black people as a whole don't hold anything sacred I don't think this comparison is valid. (what would you compare mocking the eucarist to?)

Theokhoth

I don't get what you're talking about.:|

Considering that the Eucharist is one of the single most important symbols/traditions in all Catholicism, I'd consider mocking that to be the equivalent of mocking black history month.

To Sprinkles: Why should we elect a satirist into the Senate? Like someone else has said, he is expected to show respect to the people, not mock them.

To be fair black history month promotes segregation of cultures, which goes against the American Meltingpot thing. Black history is the same as all of other american history and should be integrated into the rest of it. but that is another subject entirely.

Back on topic, Al Frankin is a satirist. He makes a living making fun of people.

Perhaps people agree with him on other issues? Single-issue voting isn't a very good idea.Mr_sprinkles

Hmm. Candidate A has great policies, except for that one where a certain group of people are stupid/evil/less than human/etc.

Is single-issue voting a bad idea then?

Al Frankin is a satirist. He makes a living making fun of people.

Guybrush_3

Then he doesn't need to be in the Senate.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Perhaps people agree with him on other issues? Single-issue voting isn't a very good idea.Theokhoth

Hmm. Candidate A has great policies, except for that one where a certain group of people are stupid/evil/less than human/etc.

Is single-issue voting a bad idea then?

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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Perhaps people agree with him on other issues? Single-issue voting isn't a very good idea.Mr_sprinkles

Hmm. Candidate A has great policies, except for that one where a certain group of people are stupid/evil/less than human/etc.

Is single-issue voting a bad idea then?

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[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Perhaps people agree with him on other issues? Single-issue voting isn't a very good idea.Mr_sprinkles

Hmm. Candidate A has great policies, except for that one where a certain group of people are stupid/evil/less than human/etc.

Is single-issue voting a bad idea then?

A comedian needs to keep his comedy away from the Senate, which is serious business.:|

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Perhaps people agree with him on other issues? Single-issue voting isn't a very good idea.Mr_sprinkles

Hmm. Candidate A has great policies, except for that one where a certain group of people are stupid/evil/less than human/etc.

Is single-issue voting a bad idea then?

No, but he did say Catholics are stupid/evil/less than human etc.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Perhaps people agree with him on other issues? Single-issue voting isn't a very good idea.Theokhoth

Hmm. Candidate A has great policies, except for that one where a certain group of people are stupid/evil/less than human/etc.

Is single-issue voting a bad idea then?

A comedian needs to keep his comedy away from the Senate, which is serious business.:|

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Perhaps people agree with him on other issues? Single-issue voting isn't a very good idea.Mr_sprinkles

Hmm. Candidate A has great policies, except for that one where a certain group of people are stupid/evil/less than human/etc.

Is single-issue voting a bad idea then?

No, but he did say Catholics are stupid/evil/less than human etc.

Really? Where?xaos

Second page of this topic. . .first post.

I'm pretty sure that he had made it abundantly clear that he was "leaving his comedy behind" when he announced his candidacy. I'm also pretty sure that he's dropped out of the race.

But what do I know...I'm not voting in that election.

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

[QUOTE="Mr_sprinkles"]Perhaps people agree with him on other issues? Single-issue voting isn't a very good idea.Theokhoth

Hmm. Candidate A has great policies, except for that one where a certain group of people are stupid/evil/less than human/etc.

Is single-issue voting a bad idea then?

A comedian needs to keep his comedy away from the Senate, which is serious business.:|

I don't care too much. After all, maybe Franken has a point.

If a person is a christian official, that doesn't mean he is the same as his faith, or he never does something wrong. Besides, you could argue that christianity has some opinions that are evil from a humanitarian standpoint.