Senate Hearing on Marijuana Legalization

This is good news, I think the War on Drugs may be finally coming to an end. The Feds finally agreeing to stop harassing Colorado and Washington was a big step.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/09/09/senate-hearing-marijuana/2790917/

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Couldn't care less either way. My only fear with pot legalization is sloppy or non existent enforcement of laws pertaining to its safe use (ie: not being high while driving, smoking it around children, etc.). What we're already seeing in CO is it being re-banned again because how how poorly it's being handled due to it being rushed into legalization.

A step in the right direction

Couldn't care less either way. My only fear with pot legalization is sloppy or non existent enforcement of laws pertaining to its safe use (ie: not being high while driving, smoking it around children, etc.).

Pirate700

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Couldn't care less either way. My only fear with pot legalization is sloppy or non existent enforcement of laws pertaining to its safe use (ie: not being high while driving, smoking it around children, etc.).

Aljosa23

.....that's weird, what happened to Syria?

It needs to be treated the same as alcohol. Not tobacco.

Pirate700

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

It needs to be treated the same as alcohol. Not tobacco.

Aljosa23

I'm more concerned about other things right now, to be honest.

Syria, NSA surveillance, the inability of the Obama administration to bring the people who were behind the Benghazi attack to justice. Lots of shit going on in this government right now.

I'm more concerned about other things right now, to be honest.

Syria, NSA surveillance, the inability of the Obama administration to bring the people who were behind the Benghazi attack to justice. Lots of shit going on in this government right now.

airshocker

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

It needs to be treated the same as alcohol. Not tobacco.

Pirate700

I'm more concerned about other things right now, to be honest.

Syria, NSA surveillance, the inability of the Obama administration to bring the people who were behind the Benghazi attack to justice. Lots of shit going on in this government right now.

airshocker

I heard Obama was behind Benghazi so..........though perhaps I shouldn't listen to conservative talk radio anymore.Serraph105

Don't be an idiot.

Couldn't care less either way. My only fear with pot legalization is sloppy or non existent enforcement of laws pertaining to its safe use (ie: not being high while driving, smoking it around children, etc.). What we're already seeing in CO is it being re-banned again because how how poorly it's being handled due to it being rushed into legalization.

Pirate700

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[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Why is that?

Aljosa23

Started off well, then you went to Benghazi...Person0

I'm not the one that promised to hold the people behind Benghazi accountable and yet, almost one year later, we don't have any of the people in custody.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Couldn't care less either way. My only fear with pot legalization is sloppy or non existent enforcement of laws pertaining to its safe use (ie: not being high while driving, smoking it around children, etc.). What we're already seeing in CO is it being re-banned again because how how poorly it's being handled due to it being rushed into legalization.

mingmao3046

I have a friend who years ago felt like he had to defend marijuana all the time, how great it was, referring to statistics etc. made it sound like a gift from God. He is now in psychiatric care and according to himself because of the very thing he defended. It can do good, but it can also do bad. Hell, of a gamble if you don't really need it if you ask me.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"]I heard Obama was behind Benghazi so..........though perhaps I shouldn't listen to conservative talk radio anymore.airshocker

Don't be an idiot.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="Aljosa23"]Why is that?

Aljosa23

I agree with Pirate.

sure the smoke from it may be safer than cigarette smoke

but i see it as, smoking a cigarette doesnt really affect you in any way, beside the occasional nicotine rush. whereas smoking pot, does affect your motor skills and such. cant think of the exact word im looking for.

but weed does more to you than cigarettes.

so its best to put it up their with alcohol, than with cigarettes.

lol Chill out, Alj. One is imparring (pot), the other isn't (cigarettes). Unless you want people driving while high and/or smoking while behind the wheel, it needs to be treated like alcohol.

Pirate700

.....I seriously heard that alleged on a conservative radio talk show while driving home.Serraph105

You're still an idiot for repeating it. :P

Oh right Canadian tobacco laws are different than American ones. Here, cigarettes are treated way harsher than alcohol is aside from drunk driving.

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

lol Chill out, Alj. One is imparring (pot), the other isn't (cigarettes). Unless you want people driving while high and/or smoking while behind the wheel, it needs to be treated like alcohol.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

Couldn't care less either way. My only fear with pot legalization is sloppy or non existent enforcement of laws pertaining to its safe use (ie: not being high while driving, smoking it around children, etc.). What we're already seeing in CO is it being re-banned again because how how poorly it's being handled due to it being rushed into legalization.

Pirate700

Oh right Canadian tobacco laws are different than American ones. Here, cigarettes are treated way harsher than alcohol is aside from drunk driving.

Aljosa23

I'm more concerned about other things right now, to be honest.

Syria, NSA surveillance, the inability of the Obama administration to bring the people who were behind the Benghazi attack to justice. Lots of shit going on in this government right now.

airshocker

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] marijuana simply doesnt effect your motor skills in the same way that alcohol does, not at all. If your driving while stoned you will likely be paranoid and drive slower, very cautiously. This could be bad on highways but overall it is nothing like drinking and driving.mingmao3046

So then you agree it should be illegal to drive stoned just as it is to drive drunk or under anything else that impares you?

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]So you think it's OK to be stoned while driving? Am I getting this right?

Pirate700

So then you agree it should be illegal to drive stoned just as it is to drive drunk or under anything else that impares you?

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] marijuana simply doesnt effect your motor skills in the same way that alcohol does, not at all. If your driving while stoned you will likely be paranoid and drive slower, very cautiously. This could be bad on highways but overall it is nothing like drinking and driving.mingmao3046

I'd say its a long overdue conversation, and quite frankly when you look at it in the big picture, domestic marijuana use in the USA affects far more american lives than Syria or Benghazi. HoolaHoopMan

Perhaps, but I definitely don't agree with the second part. I care much more about people staying alive when they're acting as our representatives abroad than I do about people being able to smoke pot legally.

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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] No but it is not a big of a deal as people make it out to be. Some have made the connection between less restrictive weed laws and fewer road deaths http://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2013/08/10/medical-marijuana-laws-save-lives-road-medical-marijuana-laws-save-lives-road/bBMqFVJ1jhv6tUbPBZotFJ/story.htmlmingmao3046

So then you agree it should be illegal to drive stoned just as it is to drive drunk or under anything else that impares you?

Great more stoners running around...just what we need. :roll: UnbiasedPoster

ignorance

I have a friend who years ago felt like he had to defend marijuana all the time, how great it was, referring to statistics etc. made it sound like a gift from God. He is now in psychiatric care and according to himself because of the very thing he defended. It can do good, but it can also do bad. Hell, of a gamble if you don't really need it if you ask me.

valium88

Moderation is key when it comes to just about anything.

[QUOTE="UnbiasedPoster"]Great more stoners running around...just what we need. :roll: konvikt_17

ignorance

If you weren't so high you probably could have made a better attempt at a rebuttal.

My friends and I used to go "take that ride" and smoke some pot while strolling through a neighborhood in a car. The driver was okay, but clearly impaired. So I agree some sort of law needs to be against driving while "significantly high." Weed doesn't operate anywhere near like alcohol, so it is difficult to articulate a law that can clearly apply to it.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I'd say its a long overdue conversation, and quite frankly when you look at it in the big picture, domestic marijuana use in the USA affects far more american lives than Syria or Benghazi. airshocker

Perhaps, but I definitely don't agree with the second part. I care much more about people staying alive when they're acting as our representatives abroad than I do about people being able to smoke pot legally.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]

So then you agree it should be illegal to drive stoned just as it is to drive drunk or under anything else that impares you?

Pirate700

I somewhat agree, full on legalization right out of the gate will cause initial problems if there isn't a well-thought out plan to implement.  First there's need to be nation-wide decriminalization so we can get these thousands of people out of jail.

[QUOTE="konvikt_17"]

[QUOTE="UnbiasedPoster"]Great more stoners running around...just what we need. :roll: UnbiasedPoster

ignorance

If you weren't so high you probably could have made a better attempt at a rebuttal.

havent smoked pot in over a year. nice assumption.

but seriously, legalizing weed really does not mean an influx of pot smokers.

if people wanted to smoke pot, they will find a way. like they do right now.

all legalizing would do, would keep them from getting arrested, depending on what they are doing.

sure some people might give it a try, now that they wont have to worry about getting arrested. but the ones who really want to smoke pot, already smoke pot.

[QUOTE="airshocker"]

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"]I'd say its a long overdue conversation, and quite frankly when you look at it in the big picture, domestic marijuana use in the USA affects far more american lives than Syria or Benghazi. HoolaHoopMan

Perhaps, but I definitely don't agree with the second part. I care much more about people staying alive when they're acting as our representatives abroad than I do about people being able to smoke pot legally.

[QUOTE="HoolaHoopMan"][QUOTE="airshocker"]

Perhaps, but I definitely don't agree with the second part. I care much more about people staying alive when they're acting as our representatives abroad than I do about people being able to smoke pot legally.

Pirate700

I hate potheads they have the memory of an alzheimer's patient and the attention span of a tree frog. Majuana is a mind altering substance and should be kept illegal.  

.....that's weird, what happened to Syria?

Serraph105

Not going to happen, especially since Syria decided to take Russia's proposal and give Russia their chemical weapons or so I heard.

Anyways, good on the hearing. Of course legalization will lead to problems on how to enforce it but overtime, I'm confident that we'll get things under control just as we did with alcohol and tabacco.