Seriously, doesn't Vegatarianism seem more of a trend nowadays?

At least with my experience, most HIPSTER people that I know have tried/are vegetarian(ism).

Sure you get those people that actually made the personal choice, ie. no meat makes them feel healthier, more energetic (a couple of my friends have said this to me). Others just plain shove animal rights down your throat.

But I just feel like most youngsters nowadays (especially hipsters in my area, Vancouver BC), just do it because its the new "thing".

Does it really matter if it is?

Does it really matter if it is?

worlock77

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Does it really matter if it is?

lonewolf604

Oh, and I think I've only met one vegetarian that is the way you're describing. The rest have been pretty genuine.

alot of people probably do feel healthier and more energetic... but thats most likely just because they are eating healthier. If you gorge yourself on big macs you are gonna feel like crap. But eating a grilled chicken breast everynow and then would probably only make you feel even better.

Not really. Most people I know that are vegetarians have been one for a really long time now.

I don't think so. Everyone I know shovels down the meat like there's no tomorrow.

Also, I'm part vegetarian, no red meat.

Does it really matter if it is?

worlock77

You mean hippies?

You mean hippies?

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You mean hippies?

F0urTwenty

What about their hips? Do they wiggle them or something?

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You mean hippies?

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What about their hips? Do they wiggle them or something?

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[QUOTE="F0urTwenty"]No, hipster's are something different. Their hips, to say the least :D.F0urTwenty

What about their hips? Do they wiggle them or something?

ahhh... those kind of people (shudder.)

I know some vegatarians who preach about how meat is so bad and that they gave it up to become healthier, but then they binge drink soda and energy drinks and eat boxed/manmade food like there isn't going to be any tommorrow. If you really want to go the healthy route, stop eating refind sugar.

While most people eat more meat than they should, vegetarianism is by its very nature a trendy movement; it is unnatural to completely cancel out all meat products.

Vegetarians are hostile people. and they always want to acknowledge and remind us that they are vegetarians. worst is they can be very agressive if they didnt get what they want especially when they are in a small food outlet which does not serve only vegetarian meal.hippiesanta

While most people eat more meat than they should, vegetarianism is by its very nature a trendy movement; it is unnatural to completely cancel out all meat products.

mrbojangles25

Let's pretend for a moment that we get our ethics by what we define as 'natural'. How can it be unnatural when the very nature of our minds can enable this decision, to become vegetarian?

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While most people eat more meat than they should, vegetarianism is by its very nature a trendy movement; it is unnatural to completely cancel out all meat products.

SkyWard20

Let's pretend for a moment that we get our ethics by what we define as 'natural'. How can it be unnatural when the very nature of our minds can enable this decision, to become vegetarian?

if you'd like to argue philosophy, fine...anyone can do that, and youre never wrong.

me? I like more practical arguments. Such as the fact that humans have incisors and canines, teeth specifically used to chew meat. Animals are also readily available, and have been so for thousands of years, and are a convenient source of protein, fat, and vitamins and minerals. This is besides the fact that meat is, well, downright delicious for pretty much the entire population and takes very little effort to prepare. Add to this the fact that humans have been at the top of the food chain since forever, and it is pretty obvious that not only is it natural for us to eat meat, we pretty much should eat meat.

As far as "trend" goes, I was using the generally accepted connotation of the word, not the denotation. So congrats, you got me on a technicality. But for the rest of us, a trend essentially means going against the norm for the sake of it; being different to appear cool, hip.

Now dont get too offended by my words; I do not take issue with vegetarians on a daily basis. In fact, I problably go 4-5 days a week without eating meat. Indian cuisine, which is generally vegetarian (and often vegan), is some of my favorite. And like I said, humans (specifically we Americans) eat waaaaay too much meat...how people can eat steak three or more times a week is beyond me.

All I am saying is that a good chunk of vegetarians and vegans do it for the wrong reasons. If they did it for the right reasons, we woulnt have Soydogs, Veggie burgers, and Tofurkeys.

No, they just tend to be the most obnoxious and outspoken about it. Most vegetarians I've met are pretty quiet about it, you wouldn't know it unless you asked.

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Does it really matter if it is?

Suzy_Q_Kazoo

Oh, and I think I've only met one vegetarian that is the way you're describing. The rest have been pretty genuine.

It has been a "trend" since the beginning of recorded history. It is rebellion against our natures as omnivores, and a "I'm better than you!" to the meat-eating majority.



Humans are the same way. If all we eat is tofu, we have no means of maintaining large amounts of muscle mass. Also, vegetarian diets are said to increase the prevalence of osteoperosis.

I've been a vegetarian all my life, so I wouldn't know about people doing it to "trendy". I am not remotely militant about it, it's my business (though I find I am pestered about it far more than I've pestered myself).

Certainly I'm all for animal rights, but that's more about poor treatment or exploitation. When it comes down to it, the simple thought of eating flesh completely repulses me.

I've been a vegetarian all my life, so I wouldn't know about people doing it to "trendy". I am not remotely militant about it, it's my business (though I find I am pestered about it far more than I've pestered myself).

Certainly I'm all for animal rights, but that's more about poor treatment or exploitation. When it comes down to it, the simple thought of eating flesh completely repulses me.

ithilgore2006

I think some ppl do switch because it's hip but those ppl don't usually do it right. you need to really know what you're eating to stay healthy as a strict vegetarian or vegan. i also think that it's a practical thing for many because obesity and heart disease is an epidemic in the US and many other countries so this is one way they see to keep that from happening to them.Ontain

Rofl. Read the word as "Vaginatariasm".v13_KiiLtz

Never trust a woman that doesn't eat meat.

On a relevant note...I find the vegetarian argument that "humans were originally intended to be vegetarians" insane for one reason: We can digest it and absorb the nutrients from it. If we were not able to, I could see being a vegetarian. And I have had more than a few vegetarians try to use that argument to try to prove their point.

We can eat almost anything as humans. I think we should use that to our full advantage.

Never trust a woman that doesn't eat meat.

On a relevant note...I find the vegetarian argument that "humans were originally intended to be vegetarians" insane for one reason: We can digest it and absorb the nutrients from it. If we were not able to, I could see being a vegetarian. And I have had more than a few vegetarians try to use that argument to try to prove their point.

We can eat almost anything as humans. I think we should use that to our full advantage.

UltimoIce

calling vegetarians "vegans" is the only thing that is a trend or new about this.:lol:

there were a huge amount of vegetarians in the 70s and in the 50s and even earlier.

but until the internet they were not talked about on websites and made fun of as widely as now.

I have an old book from the 19th century that tells of the benifits of the vegetarian lifestyIe and how to cure almost any illness with a milk diet and/or sitz bath.

in earlier times veganism was not so much a life choice as necessary because meat was not so readily available to everyone.

there were some people who hardly ever got a taste of anything except the grain from their fields or the nuts and fruits of the trees.

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Never trust a woman that doesn't eat meat.

On a relevant note...I find the vegetarian argument that "humans were originally intended to be vegetarians" insane for one reason: We can digest it and absorb the nutrients from it. If we were not able to, I could see being a vegetarian. And I have had more than a few vegetarians try to use that argument to try to prove their point.

We can eat almost anything as humans. I think we should use that to our full advantage.

ferrari2001

Or the fact that there are several essential proteins only found naturally in meat.

But I almost never see that argument coming from anyone other than crazy internet evangelicals, so it's not really a big deal anywasy.

More meat for me :)

Though its sad people have to miss out on such great things like Lawry's prime rib.

The vegetarians I know generally keep it to themselves, so it doesn't really bother me. Rest of my friends love their meat.

I tried stopping for a while at the behest of a close family member (who is a vegetarian), but couldn't. It's far too tasty and once you've had it, it's too hard to go back.

[QUOTE="Suzy_Q_Kazoo"]Of course you can, but it makes it easier to lose weight without eating meat (although you need to get nutrients from an alternate source).

Oh, and I think I've only met one vegetarian that is the way you're describing. The rest have been pretty genuine.

irishscott99

A combination of cutting the calories you intake and burning them is much easier than just burning them. At least I think so.

I've only met one and she is a relative, she has always been one though apparently. She never liked meat.

also I had a sister who was vegetarian until she became pregnant and discovered the need for a little red meat once in awhile in order to boost her protein levels.

now her daugher is headed off to college and she still has prime rib or roast beef for dinner some times and enjoys turkey with the rest of us at Holiday dinners:wink:

I have found that in many(if not most) cases the Vegan way is a manner of protesting against the establishment more that a genuine lifestyIe choice:wink: