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the keyboard, trackpad and battery are pretty bo diddly on the macbook range too. If I needed a laptop I would do the same.I'm fine with Windows. One of my big uses for my computer is to play video games, so having Windows as my operating system makes sense.
That said, if I was to get a laptop, It'd have to be a Mac. I really like the way they're set up for what I'd want in a laptop, and I'm not too concerned about the price.
I'd still dual boot Windows to make sure that any program I come across that I want to run I could (I think my siblings occasionally run across some programs their universities want them to use that, even though a large amount of people have Macs, aren't supported on Macs).I don't really have any interest in Ubuntu.
IcyToasters
[QUOTE="killzonexbox"] huge wall of text about OS and airlineslightleggymost of it is so blatantly false...I can only agree with the windows vista one...seriously I just hate when people say that window crashes every 5 minutes... windows may not crash every now and then but the OS does start to slow down after few months
I have been using Linux for the past 5 years and, in comparison, Windows is inefficient and insecure. Your problems with Linux arise from the fact that you are used to Windows, once you get used to Linux it actually becomes easier than Windows (at least that happened to me). And you don't have to use the console to install a program, Ubuntu has a GUI for the package manager which further confirms you don't really know how to use it and that's why you are having so much trouble. Likewise, installing java is just installing the sun-java packages from the repository. The package repository is one of the main advantages distros like Ubuntu have over Windows, you can install any program you need from there and they are checked for compatibility and security issues, with Windows you have to go on a browser and look for the programs in the internet which makes it much more insecure and prone for viruses and unreliable stuff. Besides that, Windows is incredibly expensive for what it is and it has a lousy design which makes it much more inefficient (lags and crashes in time) in comparison to Unix OSs like Linux which are much more robust and they use resources more efficiently.kuraimendude, the package installer is so useless...I downloaded like 10 programs which were exclusive for linux and the damm package installer didnt installed a single one, it always gave me a huge error message and trying to explain the error to me with a bunch of senseless crap.
Would switch to Linux in a heartbeat if it weren't for games. Not willing to put up with more than one OS at the same time.
Wolfenstein 3D Doom (lots of engines) Doom II Heretic (hheretic) Hexen (hhexen) Strife Rise of the Triad Duke Nukem 3D (icculus, eDuke32, JFDuke3D) Shadow Warrior (JFShadowWarrior) Marathon Trilogy (Aleph One) (now free) System Shock 1 (TSSHP) Descent 1, 2, 3 (several ports) Quake (diverse engines) Hexen II (Hammer of Thyrion) Quake II (several engines) Sin (Hyperion, Loki Installer) Kingpin: Life of Crime (icculus) Heretic II (3PS) (Loki) Quake III: Arena (icculus etc.) ST:Voyager Elite Force (only multiplayer works atm) Quake Live (beta) (free) Return to Castle Wolfenstein (RTCW) Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Doom 3 Quake 4 Prey (icculus) Unreal Unreal 2 Unreal Tournament (Loki) UT 2003 UT 2004 Soldier of Fortune (Loki) Legends Tribes Tribes2 America's Army (free) Postal 2: Share the pain (LGP) Penumbra Series (sneaker) Heavy Metal FAKK 2 (3PS) (Loki) Rune (3PS) (Loki) Tomb Raider 1-4 via Open Raider (anyone got this to run?) (3PS)Would switch to Linux in a heartbeat if it weren't for games. Not willing to put up with more than one OS at the same time.
coolbeans90
If Operating Systems Ran The Airlines...
UNIX Airways
Everyone brings one piece of the plane along when they come to the airport. They all go out on the runway and put the plane together piece by piece, arguing non-stop about what kind of plane they are supposed to be building.
Air DOS
Everybody pushes the airplane until it glides, then they jump on and let the plane coast until it hits the ground again. Then they push again, jump on again, and so on...
Mac Airlines
All the stewards, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents look and act exactly the same. Every time you ask questions about details, you are gently but firmly told that you don't need to know, don't want to know, and everything will be done for you without your ever having to know, so just shut up.
Windows Air
The terminal is pretty and colourful, with friendly stewards, easy baggage check and boarding, and a smooth take-off. After about 10 minutes in the air, the plane explodes with no warning whatsoever.
Windows NT Air
Just like Windows Air, but costs more, uses much bigger planes, and takes out all the other aircraft within a 40-mile radius when it explodes.
Windows XP Air
You turn up at the airport,which is under contract to only allow XP Air planes. All the aircraft are identical, brightly coloured and three times as big as they need to be. The signs are huge and all point the same way. Whichever way you go, someone pops up dressed in a cloak and pointed hat insisting you follow him. Your luggage and clothes are taken off you and replaced with an XP Air suit and suitcase identical to everyone around you as this is included in the exorbitant ticket cost. The aircraft will not take off until you have signed a contract. The inflight entertainment promised turns out to be the same Mickey Mouse cartoon repeated over and over again. You have to phone your travel agent before you can have a meal or drink. You are searched regularly throughout the flight. If you go to the toilet twice or more you get charged for a new ticket. No matter what destination you booked you will always end up crash landing at Whistler in Canada.OSX Air:
You enter a white terminal, and all you can see is a woman sitting in the corner behind a white desk, you walk up to get your ticket. She smiles and says "Welcome to OS X Air, please allow us to take your picture", at which point a camera in the wall you didn't notice before takes your picture. "Thank you, here is your ticket" You are handed a minimalistic ticket with your picture at the top, it already has all of your information. A door opens to your right and you walk through. You enter a wide open space with one seat in the middle, you sit, listen to music and watch movies until the end of the flight. You never see any of the other passengers. You land, get off, and you say to yourself "wow, that was really nice, but I feel like something was missing"
Windows Vista Airlines:
You enter a good looking terminal with the largest planes you have ever seen. Every 10 feet a security officer appears and asks you if you are "sure" you want to continue walking to your plane and if you would like to cancel. Not sure what cancel would do, you continue walking and ask the agent at the desk why the planes are so big. After the security officer making sure you want to ask the question and you want to hear the answer, the agent replies that they are bigger because it makes customers feel better, but the planes are designed to fly twice as slow. Adding the size helped achieve the slow fly goal.
Once on the plane, every passenger has to be asked individually by the flight attendants if they are sure they want to take this flight. Then it is company policy that the captain asks the passengers collectively the same thing. After answering yes to so many questions, you are punched in the face by some stranger who when he asked "Are you sure you want me to punch you in the face? Cancel or Allow?" you instinctively say "Allow".
After takeoff, the pilots realize that the landing gear driver wasn't updated to work with the new plane. Therefore it is always stuck in the down position. This forces the plane to fly even slower, but the pilots are used to it and continue to fly the planes, hoping that soon the landing gear manufacturer will give out a landing gear driver update.
You arrive at your destination wishing you had used your reward miles with XP airlines rather than trying out this new carrier. A close friend, after hearing your story, mentions that Linux Air is a much better alternative and helps.
Windows 7 Airlines:
In effect a cunning corporate-takeover rebranding of Windows Vista Airlines with a new paint-job on all of the oversized over-slow planes. Some of the annoying in-flight bugs have been fixed, but it's still basically the same. Plus, when you bought the ticket, you later found that because of an administrative flaw in the airline booking system you had already paid for a duplicate ticket on Windows Vista Airlines, which you now don't need.
Linux Air
Disgruntled employees of all the other OS airlines decide to start their own airline. They build the planes, ticket counters, and pave the runways themselves. They charge a small fee to cover the cost of printing the ticket, but you can also download and print the ticket yourself.
When you board the plane, you are given a seat, four bolts, a wrench and a copy of the seat-HOWTO.html. Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is very comfortable, the plane leaves and arrives on time without a single problem, the in-flight meal is wonderful. You try to tell customers of the other airlines about the great trip, but all they can say is, "You had to do what with the seat?"killzonexbox
LOL
Congrats on all that wasted time.:P
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]Wolfenstein 3D Doom (lots of engines) Doom II Heretic (hheretic) Hexen (hhexen) Strife Rise of the Triad Duke Nukem 3D (icculus, eDuke32, JFDuke3D) Shadow Warrior (JFShadowWarrior) Marathon Trilogy (Aleph One) (now free) System Shock 1 (TSSHP) Descent 1, 2, 3 (several ports) Quake (diverse engines) Hexen II (Hammer of Thyrion) Quake II (several engines) Sin (Hyperion, Loki Installer) Kingpin: Life of Crime (icculus) Heretic II (3PS) (Loki) Quake III: Arena (icculus etc.) ST:Voyager Elite Force (only multiplayer works atm) Quake Live (beta) (free) Return to Castle Wolfenstein (RTCW) Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Doom 3 Quake 4 Prey (icculus) Unreal Unreal 2 Unreal Tournament (Loki) UT 2003 UT 2004 Soldier of Fortune (Loki) Legends Tribes Tribes2 America's Army (free) Postal 2: Share the pain (LGP) Penumbra Series (sneaker) Heavy Metal FAKK 2 (3PS) (Loki) Rune (3PS) (Loki) Tomb Raider 1-4 via Open Raider (anyone got this to run?) (3PS)Would switch to Linux in a heartbeat if it weren't for games. Not willing to put up with more than one OS at the same time.
killzonexbox
I mean a library magnitude equal in extent to it's Windows counterparts, preferably with no more issues than Windows already has running them.
Wolfenstein 3D Doom (lots of engines) Doom II Heretic (hheretic) Hexen (hhexen) Strife Rise of the Triad Duke Nukem 3D (icculus, eDuke32, JFDuke3D) Shadow Warrior (JFShadowWarrior) Marathon Trilogy (Aleph One) (now free) System Shock 1 (TSSHP) Descent 1, 2, 3 (several ports) Quake (diverse engines) Hexen II (Hammer of Thyrion) Quake II (several engines) Sin (Hyperion, Loki Installer) Kingpin: Life of Crime (icculus) Heretic II (3PS) (Loki) Quake III: Arena (icculus etc.) ST:Voyager Elite Force (only multiplayer works atm) Quake Live (beta) (free) Return to Castle Wolfenstein (RTCW) Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Doom 3 Quake 4 Prey (icculus) Unreal Unreal 2 Unreal Tournament (Loki) UT 2003 UT 2004 Soldier of Fortune (Loki) Legends Tribes Tribes2 America's Army (free) Postal 2: Share the pain (LGP) Penumbra Series (sneaker) Heavy Metal FAKK 2 (3PS) (Loki) Rune (3PS) (Loki) Tomb Raider 1-4 via Open Raider (anyone got this to run?) (3PS)[QUOTE="killzonexbox"][QUOTE="coolbeans90"]
Would switch to Linux in a heartbeat if it weren't for games. Not willing to put up with more than one OS at the same time.
coolbeans90
I mean a library magnitude equal in extent to it's Windows counterparts, preferably with no more issues than Windows already has running them.
that list are native Linux games...Well if your a programming your better off with a unix/linux system. Windows' terminal is almost unusable by design. Every edition of windows strips the terminal down more. Average users could care less. Programmers are left in the cold.
P.S. Nothing made me happier then when Apple switched over to a fully Unix compliant shell
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"][QUOTE="killzonexbox"] Wolfenstein 3D Doom (lots of engines) Doom II Heretic (hheretic) Hexen (hhexen) Strife Rise of the Triad Duke Nukem 3D (icculus, eDuke32, JFDuke3D) Shadow Warrior (JFShadowWarrior) Marathon Trilogy (Aleph One) (now free) System Shock 1 (TSSHP) Descent 1, 2, 3 (several ports) Quake (diverse engines) Hexen II (Hammer of Thyrion) Quake II (several engines) Sin (Hyperion, Loki Installer) Kingpin: Life of Crime (icculus) Heretic II (3PS) (Loki) Quake III: Arena (icculus etc.) ST:Voyager Elite Force (only multiplayer works atm) Quake Live (beta) (free) Return to Castle Wolfenstein (RTCW) Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Doom 3 Quake 4 Prey (icculus) Unreal Unreal 2 Unreal Tournament (Loki) UT 2003 UT 2004 Soldier of Fortune (Loki) Legends Tribes Tribes2 America's Army (free) Postal 2: Share the pain (LGP) Penumbra Series (sneaker) Heavy Metal FAKK 2 (3PS) (Loki) Rune (3PS) (Loki) Tomb Raider 1-4 via Open Raider (anyone got this to run?) (3PS)killzonexbox
I mean a library magnitude equal in extent to it's Windows counterparts, preferably with no more issues than Windows already has running them.
that list are native Linux games...The list is woefully inadequate.
[QUOTE="coolbeans90"]Wolfenstein 3D Doom (lots of engines) Doom II Heretic (hheretic) Hexen (hhexen) Strife Rise of the Triad Duke Nukem 3D (icculus, eDuke32, JFDuke3D) Shadow Warrior (JFShadowWarrior) Marathon Trilogy (Aleph One) (now free) System Shock 1 (TSSHP) Descent 1, 2, 3 (several ports) Quake (diverse engines) Hexen II (Hammer of Thyrion) Quake II (several engines) Sin (Hyperion, Loki Installer) Kingpin: Life of Crime (icculus) Heretic II (3PS) (Loki) Quake III: Arena (icculus etc.) ST:Voyager Elite Force (only multiplayer works atm) Quake Live (beta) (free) Return to Castle Wolfenstein (RTCW) Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory (free) Enemy Territory: Quake Wars Doom 3 Quake 4 Prey (icculus) Unreal Unreal 2 Unreal Tournament (Loki) UT 2003 UT 2004 Soldier of Fortune (Loki) Legends Tribes Tribes2 America's Army (free) Postal 2: Share the pain (LGP) Penumbra Series (sneaker) Heavy Metal FAKK 2 (3PS) (Loki) Rune (3PS) (Loki) Tomb Raider 1-4 via Open Raider (anyone got this to run?) (3PS) What about newer games? Great list though.Would switch to Linux in a heartbeat if it weren't for games. Not willing to put up with more than one OS at the same time.
killzonexbox
I use Windows OS for the games, if Linux had a distro that allowed me to play the lastest games then I'd use it. I do use Linux for older computers and for some linux only software. If it wasn't for the games and some software I use for work/college I'd probably use it 100% of the time. 5 years ago I'd probably still opt for windows but after using the latest Ubuntu distro I've found that it's much more GUI oriented and I've found myself using free software more and more which makes me familar with most of the preinstalled software on an Ubuntu distro.
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