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#51 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="dangamit"][QUOTE="dpeter45"]

Both.

Arabs are barbaric people who need to be ruled with an iron fist, otherwise everything goes to hell. We probably just created another Afghanistan by ousting Gaddafi.

dpeter45

Riiiiiiiight... Look, son. Maybe you should start discussing middle eastern politics once you know the difference between Arab and Afghan. For now, GTFO.

The arabs stone women and the Afghans rape little boys (google pederasty if you don't believe me). Like I said, you can't give democracy to these kinds of people. They're just too barbaric. They're stuck in the Middle Ages. Dictatorship is the best thing for them until they can learn to abandon their stupid violent religion and join the rest of the world in the 21st century.

so do you think thats possible? I mean Europe did it. why can't arabs?

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#52 Phaze-Two
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some people just hating on sharia law just for the sake of hating .most of u dont know even 5% of what shariyat is.

fully implement sharia on any country and you will get good results quick. if libya is building its legislation on the foundation of sharia law then they will defiantely be back on track (of progress)in no time

blaze_adeel

i know enough to know that its barbaric.

that's like saying a murderer isn't all bad becuase he only murders people 5% of the time.

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#53 dangamit
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[QUOTE="dangamit"][QUOTE="dpeter45"]

Both.

Arabs are barbaric people who need to be ruled with an iron fist, otherwise everything goes to hell. We probably just created another Afghanistan by ousting Gaddafi.

dpeter45

Riiiiiiiight... Look, son. Maybe you should start discussing middle eastern politics once you know the difference between Arab and Afghan. For now, GTFO.

The arabs stone women and the Afghans rape little boys (google pederasty if you don't believe me). Like I said, you can't give democracy to these kinds of people. They're just too barbaric. They're stuck in the Middle Ages.

Where do Americans get their facts from? I'm 20 years old, I've lived 18 of these 20 years in a middle eastern, conservative country with a majority of Arabs. Never in my life have I ever seen or heard of a woman get stoned.
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#54 blaze_adeel
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some people just hating on sharia law just for the sake of hating .most of u dont know even 5% of what shariyat is.

fully implement sharia on any country and you will get good results quick. if libya is building its legislation on the foundation of sharia law then they will defiantely be back on track (of progress)in no time

Phaze-Two

i know enough to know that its barbaric.

that's like saying a murderer isn't all bad becuase he only murders people 5% of the time.

can you elaborate with evidence and good reasoning that sharia law is barbaric

and ur second statement doesnt even make sense because i never said sharia is murdering people. what i said is that most people hate sharia without fully understanding it

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#55 Crunchy_Nuts
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[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]

some people just hating on sharia law just for the sake of hating .most of u dont know even 5% of what shariyat is.

fully implement sharia on any country and you will get good results quick. if libya is building its legislation on the foundation of sharia law then they will defiantely be back on track (of progress)in no time

Phaze-Two

i know enough to know that its barbaric.

that's like saying a murderer isn't all bad becuase he only murders people 5% of the time.

Unless of course you change the definition of "murderer", since Sharia has no actual laws, it is a set of ideas which tend to change between people to people.
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#56 blaze_adeel
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]

some people just hating on sharia law just for the sake of hating .most of u dont know even 5% of what shariyat is.

fully implement sharia on any country and you will get good results quick. if libya is building its legislation on the foundation of sharia law then they will defiantely be back on track (of progress)in no time

Crunchy_Nuts

i know enough to know that its barbaric.

that's like saying a murderer isn't all bad becuase he only murders people 5% of the time.

Unless of course you change the definition of "murderer", since Sharia has no actual laws, it is a set of ideas which tend to change between people to people.

this what i am talking about .now this guy thinks sharia is a set of ideas while the fact is the basis of sharia is Quran and Sunnah. and Quran and Sunnah clearly mention the laws of sharia

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#58 Phaze-Two
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]

some people just hating on sharia law just for the sake of hating .most of u dont know even 5% of what shariyat is.

fully implement sharia on any country and you will get good results quick. if libya is building its legislation on the foundation of sharia law then they will defiantely be back on track (of progress)in no time

blaze_adeel

i know enough to know that its barbaric.

that's like saying a murderer isn't all bad becuase he only murders people 5% of the time.

can you elaborate with evidence and good reasoning that sharia law is barbaric

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfjtzyZz3Ck

have fun watching that

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I can't say that I agree, but if that's really what they wanted. . . :?
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#60 Eponique
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Am I living in the Crusades and the eras of European Imperialism again? :lol: Why is the concept that Europeans are superior and have to "civilize" the rest of the world so prevalent time and time again? Cultural relativism is real, and if you don't agree then get out of Earth. You're not more human than someone else just because you're white.
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#61 LJS9502_basic
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Too bad but not unexpected.
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]Am I living in the Crusades and the eras of European Imperialism again? :lol: Why is the concept that Europeans are superior and have to "civilize" the rest of the world so prevalent time and time again? Cultural relativism is real, and if you don't agree then get out of Earth. You're not more human than someone else just because you're white.dpeter45

Until Arabs start treating women like people, and stop wanting to murder everyone who's not Muslim, I'll keep calling them out on their barbarism.

European culture is massively superior to Arab culture, and Arabs need to be civilized.

If they really wanted to kill everyone who is not Muslim there'd be a lot more dead people then there are today considering there are Arabs all around the world.
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Couldn't care less, as long as we manage to get all of the AA missiles, and they don't try to export their **** like Qaddafi, have fun with that Libya.

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#65 Eponique
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[QUOTE="Eponique"]Am I living in the Crusades and the eras of European Imperialism again? :lol: Why is the concept that Europeans are superior and have to "civilize" the rest of the world so prevalent time and time again? Cultural relativism is real, and if you don't agree then get out of Earth. You're not more human than someone else just because you're white.dpeter45

Until Arabs start treating women like people, and stop wanting to murder everyone who's not Muslim, I'll keep calling them out on their barbarism.

European culture is massively superior to Arab culture, and Arabs need to be civilized.

How do ALL Arabs not treat women like people? As far as I know, in most Arab countries, women can get a job, drive etc. and do whatever a man can do. A lot of Muslim countries have large Christian and have been there for mellenia, and recently, Hindu populations. European culture is superior? What about that Norweigian terrorist that killed children. Maybe I should start making blanket statements about Europeans and child murder.
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#66 dpeter45
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[QUOTE="dpeter45"]

[QUOTE="Eponique"]Am I living in the Crusades and the eras of European Imperialism again? :lol: Why is the concept that Europeans are superior and have to "civilize" the rest of the world so prevalent time and time again? Cultural relativism is real, and if you don't agree then get out of Earth. You're not more human than someone else just because you're white.Eponique

Until Arabs start treating women like people, and stop wanting to murder everyone who's not Muslim, I'll keep calling them out on their barbarism.

European culture is massively superior to Arab culture, and Arabs need to be civilized.

How do ALL Arabs not treat women like people? As far as I know, in most Arab countries, women can get a job, drive etc. and do whatever a man can do. A lot of Muslim countries have large Christian and have been there for mellenia, and recently, Hindu populations. European culture is superior? What about that Norweigian terrorist that killed children. Maybe I should start making blanket statements about Europeans and child murder.

You're talking about one isolated incident that stood out because Europe is so incredibly peaceful versus how many incidents of Arab terrorism? There's absolutely no comparison.

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#67 Eponique
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You're talking about one isolated incident that stood out because Europe is so incredibly peaceful versus how many incidents of Arab terrorism? There's absolutely no comparison.

dpeter45

How often are women stoned and non-Muslims murdered in plain sight? I can also make other blatant generalizations. There are so many European single mothers. Therefore, European fathers always abandon their children. Europeans have no family values. Americans don't have universal healthcare, they care more about money than their fellow human. Greed is everywhere in that society. You can go to jail for beating up a robber, so Canadians are tolerant towards robbery. Americans usually lock their house doors and carry guns around, symbolizing a distrust in their dangerous society.

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#68 Crunchy_Nuts
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfjtzyZz3Ck

have fun watching thatPhaze-Two

Because the west is so much better But hey, as long as it's not happening over here it doesn't really matter.

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[QUOTE="dangamit"][QUOTE="dpeter45"]

Both.

Arabs are barbaric people who need to be ruled with an iron fist, otherwise everything goes to hell. We probably just created another Afghanistan by ousting Gaddafi.

dpeter45

Riiiiiiiight... Look, son. Maybe you should start discussing middle eastern politics once you know the difference between Arab and Afghan. For now, GTFO.

The arabs stone women and the Afghans rape little boys (google pederasty if you don't believe me). Like I said, you can't give democracy to these kinds of people. They're just too barbaric. They're stuck in the Middle Ages. Dictatorship is the best thing for them until they can learn to abandon their stupid violent religion and join the rest of the world in the 21st century.

The amount of ignorance, stupidity and bigotry is unbearable...:? Not only do you not know anything about Sharia law, but you generalize an ENTIRE CULTURE/PEOPLES on your moronic, preconceived notions that are just straight BS. If anything, YOU are stuck in the dark ages with your intolerance and hatred

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#70 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="Nayef_shroof"]

[QUOTE="dpeter45"]

Riiiiiiiight... Look, son. Maybe you should start discussing middle eastern politics once you know the difference between Arab and Afghan. For now, GTFO.dangamit

The arabs stone women and the Afghans rape little boys (google pederasty if you don't believe me). Like I said, you can't give democracy to these kinds of people. They're just too barbaric. They're stuck in the Middle Ages. Dictatorship is the best thing for them until they can learn to abandon their stupid violent religion and join the rest of the world in the 21st century.

The amount of ignorance, stupidity and bigotry is unbearable...:? Not only do you not know anything about Sharia law, but you generalize an ENTIRE CULTURE/PEOPLES on your moronic, preconceived notions that are just straight BS. If anything, YOU are stuck in the dark ages with your intolerance and hatred

It's a discussion about Sharia law in Libya on the Gamespot OT forum... what did you expect?
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#71 weezyfb
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so? must countries are founded upon religion as their core, that does not mean it will be a theocracy
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#72 Frame_Dragger
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so? must countries are founded upon religion as their core, that does not mean it will be a theocracyweezyfb
Actually, by definiton following a religous code of law as the core of legislation would be a theocracy. Simply making claims that one's country is founded on religious principles is an entirely different matter. Still, who really cares at this point... Libya is going to sell its oil to Europe until it has no more, and then it will just be another basket case in Africa. Yawn. I doubt they'll ever organize enough to form a true theocracy and central government anyway.
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[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

[QUOTE="dpeter45"]

Riiiiiiiight... Look, son. Maybe you should start discussing middle eastern politics once you know the difference between Arab and Afghan. For now, GTFO.dangamit

The arabs stone women and the Afghans rape little boys (google pederasty if you don't believe me). Like I said, you can't give democracy to these kinds of people. They're just too barbaric. They're stuck in the Middle Ages. Dictatorship is the best thing for them until they can learn to abandon their stupid violent religion and join the rest of the world in the 21st century.

so do you think thats possible? I mean Europe did it. why can't arabs?

*cough* Malta*cough* Holy See *cough* Serbia *cough* Bulgaria *cough* Greece *cough* Bosnia *cough*
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#74 blaze_adeel
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[QUOTE="blaze_adeel"]

[QUOTE="Phaze-Two"]

i know enough to know that its barbaric.

that's like saying a murderer isn't all bad becuase he only murders people 5% of the time.

dpeter45

can you elaborate with evidence and good reasoning that sharia law is barbaric

and ur second statement doesnt even make sense because i never said sharia is murdering people. what i said is that most people hate sharia without fully understanding it

Makes sense if you're an Arab. They don't consider women people. Women are on the level of dogs in Arab culture.

Maybe that's not even true because I treat my dogs a lot better than Arabs treat their women!

first of all i am not arab .second arab culture doesnt automatically mean sharia law . i ask you tell me anything in sharia law that degrades the women ,causes unstability in the society . tell me one law.

and keep in mind men and women have equal rights in islam ( i am not talking about arab culture ) but equal rights doesnt mean identical rights.

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[QUOTE="Eponique"][QUOTE="dpeter45"]

Until Arabs start treating women like people, and stop wanting to murder everyone who's not Muslim, I'll keep calling them out on their barbarism.

European culture is massively superior to Arab culture, and Arabs need to be civilized.

dpeter45

How do ALL Arabs not treat women like people? As far as I know, in most Arab countries, women can get a job, drive etc. and do whatever a man can do. A lot of Muslim countries have large Christian and have been there for mellenia, and recently, Hindu populations. European culture is superior? What about that Norweigian terrorist that killed children. Maybe I should start making blanket statements about Europeans and child murder.

You're talking about one isolated incident that stood out because Europe is so incredibly peaceful versus how many incidents of Arab terrorism? There's absolutely no comparison.

The first thing you need to understand is that countries like Saudia Arabia and Iran don't equate to Islamic Shariah. Women are not mistreated, and there's nothing under Shariah that states people should be killed because of their faith. I can't believe I'm actually responding to a comment like this. This is the kind of stuff I find on YouTube, not Gamespot.
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#76 surrealnumber5
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if you did not see this coming... lol.
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Only on papers. I know how this works.
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#78 Elraptor
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Sounds a little ominous.
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#79 tenaka2
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if you did not see this coming... lol. surrealnumber5

I don't think anybody did, I imagine most people thought that the instant Gaddafi died, Libya would become a bastion of democracy and become a shining example of all good things western, eventually using the $ and becoming one of the united states.

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I don't think anybody did, I imagine most people thought that the instant Gaddafi died, Libya would become a bastion of democracy and become a shining example of all good things western, eventually using the $ and becoming one of the united states.

tenaka2

family guy did it! you cant make that joke because it was on family guy.
Only on papers. I know how this works.GazaAli
you would have insight that most of us do not, then again that could be taken as some sort of slur as you are in gaza and not northern africa.

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#81 ScreamDream
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So this guy wants to run the country by changing laws and no mention of an election? Sounds like another uprising coming.
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So this guy wants to run the country by changing laws and no mention of an election? Sounds like another uprising coming. ScreamDream
depends on if he "plays ball" with europe
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#83 tenaka2
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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

I don't think anybody did, I imagine most people thought that the instant Gaddafi died, Libya would become a bastion of democracy and become a shining example of all good things western, eventually using the $ and becoming one of the united states.

surrealnumber5

family guy did it! you cant make that joke because it was on family guy.
Only on papers. I know how this works.GazaAli
you would have insight that most of us do not, then again that could be taken as some sort of slur as you are in gaza and not northern africa.

Thats totally unfair, I didn't see that on family guy!

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we need to start borrowing money from libya.. "Abdul-Jalil said new banks would be set up to follow the Islamic banking system, which bans charging interest. "
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Right out of one hell hole and into the other...

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No problemo. What government has ever been put into effect that didn't have a take on religion at it's core? This includes the disbelief in God. Legislation in the United States is pulled almost exclusively from Christian doctrines.
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#87 surrealnumber5
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we need to start borrowing money from libya.. "Abdul-Jalil said new banks would be set up to follow the Islamic banking system, which bans charging interest. "comp_atkins
it bans interest rates, it is still able to have "imputed interest" as it is called in the accounting world, but people tend to ignore that little tidbit.
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I suppose when people heard that the Libyan's were fighting for their freedom, they didn't consider that it was the freedom to be under sharia law... Yeah, I've seen that bait and switch before.

It's the women I fear for the most. They are sub human property under Sharia.

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#89 rastotm
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The sharia law is bound to subjective implications, the best thing to do would be wait, see and not sell weapons.

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#90 Frame_Dragger
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

I suppose when people heard that the Libyan's were fighting for their freedom, they didn't consider that it was the freedom to be under sharia law... Yeah, I've seen that bait and switch before.

It's the women I fear for the most. They are sub human property under Sharia.

You're missing a giant forest for the trees. If you consider the culture of Libya and norhtern Africa in general, this is going to be an excuse to do what has been done under tribal laws with or without Sharia. If you think that women in that region are treated well with or without Sharia, you're kidding yourself. The name they choose to give this is just window dressing.
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#91 jetpower3
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Well, this is interesting.

"'The liberals will escape or be killed,' the son, Seif al-Islam el-Qaddafi, vowed in an hourlong interview that stretched past midnight. 'We will do it together,' he added, wearing a newly grown beard and fingering Islamic prayer beads as he reclined on a love seat in a spare office tucked in a nearly deserted downtown hotel. 'Libya will look like Saudi Arabia, like Iran. So what?'"

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#92 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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Those of us who knew better knew this was going to happen.

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#93 deactivated-6127ced9bcba0
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That's just dumb. The type of people who want a democracy are the types that are not religious crazies, therefore it is extremely unlikely that the religious crazies would ever get in power.Crunchy_Nuts

Perhaps you need to check your demographics, since there are more religiou zealots in Libya than secular-thinking individuals.

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#94 Santesyu
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Meet the new boss, just the same as the old boss. This sorta reminds me of RDR when landon ricketts was talking about revoloutions after revolutions.

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#95 dontshackzmii
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if thats what they want the west has no right to judge them. they got their rules from the big man him self.

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#96 Ace6301
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Not the best way to base your laws but if that's what they want then I guess that's how it goes. Anyone hoping they'd adapt western style law after the uprising was kidding themselves. Hopefully Libya can rebuild it's self into a good nation nonetheless.
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#97 Frame_Dragger
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Meet the new boss, just the same as the old boss. This sorta reminds me of RDR when landon ricketts was talking about revoloutions after revolutions.

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The point you're missing, and many are, is that Libya isn't going to have a single boss anymore, so it won't be the same. You're going to have a return to (an admittedly *****y) way of life that existed before Qaddafi came along.