Should atheists be allowed to marry?

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#1 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Marriage is religious, so should an atheist be allowed to marry someone of a different sex? Why or why not?

I have no opinion of this matter, other than that if marriage is to be kept with the place of worship, then I feel that place should be obligated to determine marriage however they feel is appropiate.

EDIT: Yes, I'm making the assumption that religion is purely religious.

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Yes. 77% [113]
Yes, if they're marrying a believer. 3% [4]
No. 12% [18]
That should be determined by the church. 6% [9]
Other (please post). 2% [3]

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#2 lobodob
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Of course. Just not by a priest because that would be weird.

But I don`t really think marriage is all that important. I could live with my significant other just as happily without it. How she would feel about that is up in the air though.

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#3 -Jiggles-
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Absolutely. I have no reason to see why they shouldn't.

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#4 MrLions
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Of course. Just not by a priest because that would be weird.lobodob

:lol: It'd probably be a cermony filled with awkward silences.

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If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

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If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

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#7 domatron23
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If it's a strictly religious process then I would think that atheists would be excluded. You wouldn't see an atheist taking a baptism would you?

That being said marriage is about unionship not religion.

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#8 Nifty_Shark
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Oh my. Let's make a new proposition to stop Atheists from marrying.
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#9 Jango-Bawls
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They should, but probably just in a legal marriage, not a religious marriage in a church.If that kind of law was passed, it would probably cause uproar though in some places.
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#10 Mrs_Sesshomaru
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Yes they should be. Same thing with gay people. I support gay marrige..yell at me if you want to. I don't care what you think. :)
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Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

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#13 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

Superbored

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Meep.:o

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If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

Theokhoth

I would flame you so badly right now, but I'm too busy feasting on my child's rib cage right now. Tastes good with barbeque sauce, I'll admit.

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If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

Theokhoth

I'm going to link everyone to an explicit image of baby eating. Don't click the link if you don't like this sort of material (atheists will love it). I warn you it's very messy.

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#16 deactivated-5a79221380856
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

-Jiggles-

I would flame you so badly right now, but I'm too busy feasting on my child's rib cage right now. Tastes good with barbeque sauce, I'll admit.

I have to admit it, atheists have the best sense of humor. :lol:

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#17 redfield_137
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That's an interesting question. Well they should be allowed to marry but it doesn't seem to make a whole lot of sense having a traditional wedding ceremony since they are religious by nature. Although it's not like athiests would have Bible readings etc anyway. If they did then it just makes no sense to me.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

domatron23

I'm going to link everyone to an explicit image of baby eating. Don't click the link if you don't like this sort of material (atheists will love it). I warn you it's very messy.

I thought it would be a picture of the guy with a baby in between two pieces of sub bread. >_>

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I don't care about the religion aspect, Marriage is basically when two people commit themselves to one another and shows their love for one another by saying they will only be with their partner.
It's a nice tradition, religion or not.
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Well, there's, like the government. Why an athiest would hold the ceremony at a church is kinda silly.
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[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

Theokhoth

I'm going to link everyone to an explicit image of baby eating. Don't click the link if you don't like this sort of material (atheists will love it). I warn you it's very messy.

I thought it would be a picture of the guy with a baby in between two pieces of sub bread. >_>

Actually I posted an exact picture of that in the very first abortion topic I made and got moderated for it.

On that note hows the pro-life union going. I'd be keen to join when its up.

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Well, there's, like the government. Why an athiest would hold the ceremony at a church is kinda silly. zakkro

Well, I've always held the belief that marriage was directly tied to the church. >_>

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In todays time marriage is more of a legal ordeal so I believe Atheists, along with homosexuals should be allowed to marry.
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#24 deactivated-5a79221380856
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Actually I posted an exact picture of that in the very first abortion topic I made and got moderated for it.

domatron23

Was it of Bush?

I always knew Bush was a traitor. :x

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#25 zakkro
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[QUOTE="zakkro"]Well, there's, like the government. Why an athiest would hold the ceremony at a church is kinda silly. Genetic_Code

Well, I've always held the belief that marriage was directly tied to the church. >_>

Well it shouldn't... as someone said in a previous thread, no religion has a monopoly on love.
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#26 efrucht
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OT, it's time we take this to the courts! Lets make some waves.

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Well it shouldn't... as someone said in a previous thread, no religion has a monopoly on love.zakkro

Yes, but marriage does not always equal love. Look at the divorce rates.

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On that note hows the pro-life union going. I'd be keen to join when its up.

domatron23

It glitched up. Nobody could accept the invitations. So I'll have to try again in a month.:cry:

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[QUOTE="zakkro"]Well it shouldn't... as someone said in a previous thread, no religion has a monopoly on love.Genetic_Code

Yes, but marriage does not equal love. Look at the divorce rates.

I know that, but in the religious aspect it's always about love or family values or whatever.
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I don't believe in marriage (My parents got divorced quite messily and marriage did nothing more for them than not being married would have done) and I am an atheist. I think it makes rational sense not to get married but to stay together; It never has to be as complicated.
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#31 domatron23
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[QUOTE="domatron23"]

Actually I posted an exact picture of that in the very first abortion topic I made and got moderated for it.

Genetic_Code

Was it of Bush?

I always knew Bush was a traitor. :x

Actually I also have a picture of Bush eating a baby right here.That one was for my propaganda topic.

It was the one that Theo described. A dude is holding a crying baby next to his open mouth and the baby is wrapped in bread and lettuce.

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#32 btaylor2404
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GC, we're going to vary wildly on this one. First off marriage isn't religious, just like Christmas isn't. Christianity took old traditions and made them theirs. I do believe that if a person is a professed Atheist, then a church has a right not to marry them. I've been married nearly 10 years, to a Catholic. Religion is far from a problem, it's actually a conversation piece on many issues as we discuss how we see things, and how we are going to tackle family issues. Additionally in the US marriage is a legal contract, nothing more.
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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

domatron23

I'm going to link everyone to an explicit image of baby eating. Don't click the link if you don't like this sort of material (atheists will love it). I warn you it's very messy.

I thought it would be a picture of the guy with a baby in between two pieces of sub bread. >_>

Actually I posted an exact picture of that in the very first abortion topic I made and got moderated for it.

On that note hows the pro-life union going. I'd be keen to join when its up.

A pro-life atheist? Blasphemous!

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#34 Theokhoth
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[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="domatron23"]

Actually I posted an exact picture of that in the very first abortion topic I made and got moderated for it.

domatron23

Was it of http://www.wonkette.com/images/hmmmm%20delicious.jpg" title="http://www.wonkette.com/images/hmmmm%20delicious.jpg">Bush?

I always knew Bush was a traitor. :x

Actually I also have a picture of Bush eating a baby right here.That one was for my propaganda topic.

It was the one that Theo described. A dude is holding a crying baby next to his open mouth and the baby is wrapped in bread and lettuce.

Holy crap, that picture is terrible!:o:cry:

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A pro-life atheist? Blasphemous!

xMOBSTER23x

He's not pro-life. Just awesome.

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[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

xMOBSTER23x

I'm going to link everyone to an explicit image of baby eating. Don't click the link if you don't like this sort of material (atheists will love it). I warn you it's very messy.

I thought it would be a picture of the guy with a baby in between two pieces of sub bread. >_>

Actually I posted an exact picture of that in the very first abortion topic I made and got moderated for it.

On that note hows the pro-life union going. I'd be keen to join when its up.

A pro-life atheist? Blasphemous!

Actually I'm rabidly anti-fetus if anything.

Although the leader of the atheism union is pro-life.

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Although the leader of the atheism union is pro-life.

domatron23

Seriously? I never knew that.

Or is he one of those "everybody's pro-life" cop-outists?

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Oh my. Let's make a new proposition to stop Atheists from marrying.Nifty_Shark
Better yet lets just null every single current and future religious union. After all it is strictly religious so the state shouldnt be involved in recognizing it. Then everyone is equal
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GC, we're going to vary wildly on this one. First off marriage isn't religious, just like Christmas isn't. Christianity took old traditions and made them theirs. I do believe that if a person is a professed Atheist, then a church has a right not to marry them. I've been married nearly 10 years, to a Catholic. Religion is far from a problem, it's actually a conversation piece on many issues as we discuss how we see things, and how we are going to tackle family issues. Additionally in the US marriage is a legal contract, nothing more.btaylor2404

I was expecting to see you. :)

Speaking of which, were you married in a church?

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A pro-life atheist? Blasphemous!

xMOBSTER23x
Makes perfect sense. Less abortions= more babies to eat.
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[QUOTE="domatron23"]

Although the leader of the atheism union is pro-life.

Theokhoth

Seriously? I never knew that.

Or is he one of those "everybody's pro-life" cop-outists?

Nope hes a fully fledged "a fertilized egg is a human" type of dude.

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[QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="domatron23"]

Although the leader of the atheism union is pro-life.

domatron23

Seriously? I never knew that.

Or is he one of those "everybody's pro-life" cop-outists?

Nope hes a fully fledged "a fertilized egg is a human" type of dude.

Interesting. . . .

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[QUOTE="xMOBSTER23x"][QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

If they want to be married in a church, then they need the church's blessing, just like anybody else. . . but forbidding them to marry is kinda ridiculous.

They just shouldn't be allowed to adopt. Because we all know an atheist's favorite diet.:x

domatron23

I'm going to link everyone to an explicit image of baby eating. Don't click the link if you don't like this sort of material (atheists will love it). I warn you it's very messy.

I thought it would be a picture of the guy with a baby in between two pieces of sub bread. >_>

Actually I posted an exact picture of that in the very first abortion topic I made and got moderated for it.

On that note hows the pro-life union going. I'd be keen to join when its up.

A pro-life atheist? Blasphemous!

Actually I'm rabidly anti-fetus if anything.

Although the leader of the atheism union is pro-life.

Ah... I suppose I'm "anti-fetus" as well.

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[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="Theokhoth"][QUOTE="domatron23"]

Although the leader of the atheism union is pro-life.

Theokhoth

Seriously? I never knew that.

Or is he one of those "everybody's pro-life" cop-outists?

Nope hes a fully fledged "a fertilized egg is a human" type of dude.

Interesting. . . .

One in a million, eh?

*chews on sternum*

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[QUOTE="btaylor2404"]GC, we're going to vary wildly on this one. First off marriage isn't religious, just like Christmas isn't. Christianity took old traditions and made them theirs. I do believe that if a person is a professed Atheist, then a church has a right not to marry them. I've been married nearly 10 years, to a Catholic. Religion is far from a problem, it's actually a conversation piece on many issues as we discuss how we see things, and how we are going to tackle family issues. Additionally in the US marriage is a legal contract, nothing more.Genetic_Code

I was expecting to see you. :)

Speaking of which, were you married in a church?

I knew you were :). No, because it was my wife's second marriage, and we were going to pay for it ourselves, we went to a resort in northern Arkansas, Eureka Springs. Great set up, the owner was a pastor, the wife the photographer, and we were going to be married next to the beautiful river that runs thru their land, but it was pouring down rain. So we got married in our cabin. We both loved it. At the time I was an Atheist, but fairly quiet about it, was still trying to learn enough on all sides to have a decent disagreement. Now I have asked, very harshly, not to have a funeral service in a church, even though I love my church, and my pastor understands, funeral services always seem like their trying to sell religion to me, and I don't want that.

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If it's a strictly religious process then I would think that atheists would be excluded. You wouldn't see an atheist taking a baptism would you?

That being said marriage is about unionship not religion.

domatron23

Exactly

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One in a million, eh?

*chews on sternum*

-Jiggles-

Not really.

And stop eating that! *Snatches sternum away*

>_>

*Takes a nibble*

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GC, we're going to vary wildly on this one. First off marriage isn't religious, just like Christmas isn't. Christianity took old traditions and made them theirs. I do believe that if a person is a professed Atheist, then a church has a right not to marry them. I've been married nearly 10 years, to a Catholic. Religion is far from a problem, it's actually a conversation piece on many issues as we discuss how we see things, and how we are going to tackle family issues. Additionally in the US marriage is a legal contract, nothing more.btaylor2404
I agree with this.
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#50 domatron23
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[QUOTE="domatron23"][QUOTE="xMOBSTER23x"]

A pro-life atheist? Blasphemous!

xMOBSTER23x

Actually I'm rabidly anti-fetus if anything.

Although the leader of the atheism union is pro-life.

Ah... I suppose I'm "anti-fetus" as well.

By anti-fetus I just mean that I justify abortion based upon the less than human state of a fetus and embryo rather than by the choice of the woman.

Wow this thread has gone way off topic.