Should I convert all my MP3s to 192kbps?

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#1 arcticsilvr
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to free up space? alot of them are 320
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#2 TheCrimsonKoopa
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Sure, why the hell not.
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#3 Resident_Hiro
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maybe how big is your HDD?
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#4 Kalel559
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Yes, the quality is actually almost unnoticeable past 192 on any speaker system.
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#5 nightshade85
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you can get by with 128 kb/s easily
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#6 dewman322
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I just recently downloaded a concert of a band that I like in the flac format. All as I have to say is holy crap does that ever take up a lot of space. I suggest to myself next time to download in mp3 format instead. As to the topic creator sure why not because unless your an audiophile your not really going to notice much difference in the sound quality and it will save space.
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#7 IwubYuna
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you can get by with 128 kb/s easilynightshade85
Agreed , the average I-pod and MP3 players convert MP3s automaticly at 128 when its put on the device and its barely noticeable if that when your listening to it as apose to your computer or stereo.
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#8 crucifine
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I would convert them to VAR 192~320 kbps.  You won't lose much sound quality, and you'll chop off maybe 2 megabytes per song.  I can't stand 128 kbps, it sounds awful.  I used to have a bunch of FLAC files, but I downconverted them to 320 kbps mp3s because I needed the space.
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Sure, why the hell not.TheCrimsonKoopa
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#10 BlackBeauty
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[QUOTE="nightshade85"]you can get by with 128 kb/s easilyIwubYuna
Agreed , the average I-pod and MP3 players convert MP3s automaticly at 128 when its put on the device and its barely noticeable if that when your listening to it as apose to your computer or stereo.

Yep - 128 kb/s is good enough if you seriously want to clear up more space.
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#11 ice_radon
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It depends. I can tell the quality difference between 320 and 192, but its not all that much at all. I actually rip most of my music to 160kbps.
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#13 bededog
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I wouldn't, i would invest in a bigger HDD if you are low on space.
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#14 jeremiah06
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I wouldn't, i would invest in a bigger HDD if you are low on space.bededog
This they are very cheap now
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#15 Darth-Caedus
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No. Get a bigger HD. I would never willingly covert my music to anything lower then 256kbps.
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#16 GhoX
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Convert them to 240 instead. There is some difference between 320 and 192, but there is virtually no quality difference between 320 and 240.
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#17 cyberdarkkid
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You will still notice some bad quality on 192 kbps, try converting them to VRB. You will reduce their size as much as possible without them losing any noticeable quality.
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#18 Velocitas8
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Rule of thumb: NEVER transocde lossy->lossy. So, no. The space gain will be insignificant anyway.

If you are ripping music yourself to MP3 (i.e. from a CD source), it IS best to avoid 320 kbps, though. Use LAME V0, or V1/V2 if those are transparent to you.

If you're running low on space..definitely invest in a new HDD. Storage is dirt cheap these days.

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#19 Elephant_Couple
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I can notice a definite difference in the quality of the very high and very low frequencies at 192, but then again I record a lot of music and my ear is quite well tuned. I have all of mine as AAC files at 256. AAC files retain their sonic integrity much better than mp3's and are considerably smaller. Honestly, I didn't know people still used mp3's much anymore. They're pretty much obsolete.

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#20 Velocitas8
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I can notice a definite difference in the quality of the very high and very low frequencies at 192, but then again I record a lot of music and my ear is quite well tuned. I have all of mine as AAC files at 256. AAC files retain their sonic integrity much better than mp3's and are considerably smaller. Honestly, I didn't know people still used mp3's much anymore. They're pretty much obsolete.

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AAC is nice, but aoTuV-encoded Vorbis is supposedly the best lossy format for mid/high bitrates. My entire library is lossless on my PC, but I transcode to aoTuV Vorbis/Ogg q6 for my PMP (q6 is transparent to me.) Not sure how widely it's supported in the audio hardware realm, though.

Anyway, the filesize savings of AAC over LAME-encoded MP3 aren't that significant, especially at 256 kbps. Actually, you'll often end up with smaller files using LAME V0.. (which is also transparent to most.)

I do agree that LAME-encoded 192-CBR is sub-par quality-wise, though. Against V0 I can ABX 192-CBR quite consistently..far better than I can V0 against lossless.

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#21 EMOEVOLUTION
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Dont' do it. You'll lose significant quality.
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#22 X360PS3AMD05
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No, i see a big hassle to save a tiny bit of HD space.......at that point i would just buy a new hard drive, you can get what 640gb maybe even 1TB for under $100 now. Yup http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136534
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#23 cjek
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[QUOTE="nightshade85"]you can get by with 128 kb/s easilyIwubYuna
Agreed , the average I-pod and MP3 players convert MP3s automaticly at 128 when its put on the device and its barely noticeable if that when your listening to it as apose to your computer or stereo.

Well that's for iPods, but with a better player and/or headphones you'd notice the difference between 192 and 128. I have a £50 sound card and £30 headphones and the difference between 192 and 320 is also fairly noticeable. And I'm not even an audiophile.

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#24 Velocitas8
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No, i see a big hassle to save a tiny bit of HD space.......at that point i would just buy a new hard drive, you can get what 640gb maybe even 1TB for under $100 now.X360PS3AMD05

1TB drives have been under $100 USD for quite some time now.

I use a 1TB drive for my lossless library. 1TB is enough space to store something like 2,100 full-length albums in FLAC (at ~450MB per album.) That comes out to ~23,100 tracks if we assume 11 tracks per album.

It's a lot of damn space for purposes of music storage. Have fun filling that up if you use MP3s..you'll get far more mileage there.

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#25 broken_bass_bin
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Depends if you're someone who can notice the difference between CD quality and a 192kbps MP3, and whether it bugs you or not.

I rip most of my music at 320kbps now, or using lossless compression, because I've started to notice the differences and it bugs me.

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#26 Jesus_on_fire
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Instead of using MP3's, how about useing a more recent and far better standard like AAC prehaps?

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#27 Bourbons3
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Wow, thanks for reviving this relic. I managed to laugh at my own post :lol:
[QUOTE="TheCrimsonKoopa"]Sure, why the hell not.Bourbons3
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#28 cjek
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Wow, thanks for reviving this relic. I managed to laugh at my own post :lol:Bourbons3
Oh man, I really need to check the date before I post in a mega-bumped topic. Revived after 3 years just to post:

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#29 SuperSaiyanLink
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you can get by with 128 kb/s easilynightshade85
128 is disgusting even with 3 dollar earbuds.

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#30 markop2003
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No, i'ld never reduce the quality of my files. Keep them as high quality as physically possible.