Guys, this has been a tough last few years for the US. Would a new President really chage it? As long as the two sides are at eachothers throats I do not see it getting better.
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Guys, this has been a tough last few years for the US. Would a new President really chage it? As long as the two sides are at eachothers throats I do not see it getting better.
Maybe just because we do not have war protests under him.
He is also a great face for Americans, he is beloved by the international community (well atleast in Europe). He is a great orator and makes us look great.
yes, unemployment has decreased significantly and the economy is turning aroundZumaJones07
Decreased significantly? Uh, we're at 8.2% IIRC, the high for the Obama admin. was around 9%, correct? That's not a significant decrease at all.
On topic: I don't think Obama should be re-elected. He's an ineffective president when it comes to the economy. He said he would lower the corporate tax rate in 2011's SOTU and nothing happened.
Stephen Colbert for President 20121PMrFisterGive to his SuperPac, he is using it to help Obama get a second term.
You should love President Obama and his use of Christianity in office... I mean you liked Bush right?
Dy_WarriorsXoXo
What makes you think I'm a Christian?
Without a viable candidate.....yeah. Unfortunately.LJS9502_basicTrue, Grinch and Mitt really aren't darlings.
I'm not sure. Considering the job he's done so far, I'm not sure he's the best choice right now. He's definitely better than a few of the other candidates I've seen, though. It may come down to the lesser evil.BranKetraWhen doesn't it?
Compared to the clowns that the GOP has as candidates, definitely. Person0What makes them clowns? OR is it just because they are republican?
[QUOTE="Person0"]Compared to the clowns that the GOP has as candidates, definitely. gigantuouseWhat makes them clowns? OR is it just because they are republican? The whole plan of cutting taxes on the rich (every candidate wants to) while cutting spending is the worst possible thing to do right now. They all are way to extreme in their religious views for my taste. Terrible economic and social policies = Clowns.
[QUOTE="Person0"]Compared to the clowns that the GOP has as candidates, definitely. gigantuouseWhat makes them clowns? OR is it just because they are republican? what is to like about them? they're all hypocritical clowns. lol at Romney saying he doesn't care about poor people and that there is a safety net for them.
[QUOTE="BranKetra"]I'm not sure. Considering the job he's done so far, I'm not sure he's the best choice right now. He's definitely better than a few of the other candidates I've seen, though. It may come down to the lesser evil.gigantuouseWhen doesn't it? I suppose that's the million dollar question.
[QUOTE="ZumaJones07"]yes, unemployment has decreased significantly and the economy is turning aroundairshocker
Decreased significantly? Uh, we're at 8.2% IIRC, the high for the Obama admin. was around 9%, correct? That's not a significant decrease at all.
On topic: I don't think Obama should be re-elected. He's an ineffective president when it comes to the economy. He said he would lower the corporate tax rate in 2011's SOTU and nothing happened.
the republicans blocked it in congress :P[QUOTE="Person0"]Compared to the clowns that the GOP has as candidates, definitely. gigantuouseWhat makes them clowns? OR is it just because they are republican? The two generally go hand in hand.
the republicans blocked it in congress :P comp_atkins
Most likely because it was attached to something they disagreed on. I bet if there was a bill that ONLY lowered the corporate tax rate, Republicans would have voted on it. :P
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]the republicans blocked it in congress :P airshocker
Most likely because it was attached to something they disagreed on. I bet if there was a bill that ONLY lowered the corporate tax rate, Republicans would have voted on it. :P
they're not allowed to have singularly purposed bills.. want to extend a ss tax break? gotta include an unrelated oil pipeline deal. thats hows theys do it.they're not allowed to have singularly purposed bills.. want to extend a ss tax break? gotta include an unrelated oil pipeline deal. thats hows theys do it.comp_atkins
Are you serious?
[QUOTE="airshocker"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"]the republicans blocked it in congress :P comp_atkins
Most likely because it was attached to something they disagreed on. I bet if there was a bill that ONLY lowered the corporate tax rate, Republicans would have voted on it. :P
they're not allowed to have singularly purposed bills.. want to extend a ss tax break? gotta include an unrelated oil pipeline deal. thats hows theys do it. No single purpose bills are allowed due to the concern too many bills would be presented and nothing would get done. Oh, the irony.[QUOTE="gigantuouse"][QUOTE="Person0"]Compared to the clowns that the GOP has as candidates, definitely. ZumaJones07What makes them clowns? OR is it just because they are republican? what is to like about them? they're all hypocritical clowns.
If republicans are hypocritical, then can be said of democrats? These are the same people who berate Bush, yet support Bush 2.0.
[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]they're not allowed to have singularly purposed bills.. want to extend a ss tax break? gotta include an unrelated oil pipeline deal. thats hows theys do it.airshocker
Are you serious?
I think that was sarcasm.....I could be wrong though.The whole plan of cutting taxes on the rich (every candidate wants to) while cutting spending is the worst possible thing to do right now. They all are way to extreme in their religious views for my taste. Terrible economic and social policies = Clowns.[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="gigantuouse"] What makes them clowns? OR is it just because they are republican?Dy_WarriorsXoXo
You honestly need to define terms if the way you are using is not an accurate description.
How is Romney extreme in his religious views, or Ron Paul for that matter?
Could you also explain how their social and economic policies are "terrible" in more detail please?
Economic policies... they all support "trickle down" which does not work and is the main reason why wealth inequality in the U.S is the highest since the great depression. Socially, religion dictates most of their polices (ex abortion, gay marriage), then the non religious ideas like cutting SS,Medicare and unemployment benefits as much as they can and they all support more infringements on civil liberties (yes even ron paul, just through state governments instead of the federal government) tldr : they all have terrible policies overall[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]they're not allowed to have singularly purposed bills.. want to extend a ss tax break? gotta include an unrelated oil pipeline deal. thats hows theys do it.airshocker
Are you serious?
with respect to what? an actual requirement for multipurposed bills or the general tone of what i'm saying? hard to tell with just text.with respect to what? an actual requirement for multipurposed bills or the general tone of what i'm saying? hard to tell with just text.comp_atkins
An actual requirement for multipurposed bills.
No.
I didn't vote for him in 2008, but I decided to give him an honest shot. And he's had four years, now. Nothing.He even started with a super majority in the house, but he chose to squander that bypushing his bill that simply forces you to procure insurance under the threat of fine or imprisonment. And because of that,the demslosttheir super majority and now complain thatthey cant get anything done.
I don't really see a republican i would want as president so as of now i would want obama re-elected.
[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]We're screwed. Whether you're conservative or liberal, we're screwed for the next few decades. If Obama gets re-elected then he's still going to have trouble getting any change (whether you like his change or not) with all the conflict in Washington. If someone else gets elected, they will have to same problem. Until the country as a whole has a sea change in its attitude neither party will bring any change at all.Dy_WarriorsXoXo
There is no "If Obama gets re-elected..." it is happening and the whole thing is staged.
OWS and Romney as the nominee coincidence? Plus President Obama has nearly one billion dollars raised already, that is more than all the other candidates combined.
Romney for instance has less than 1/4 of President Obama's reelection funding.
Last election President Obama raised twice as much as McCain raised...
Staged? I am honestly surprised it took four pages for someone like you to post.[QUOTE="bonesawisready5"]We're screwed. Whether you're conservative or liberal, we're screwed for the next few decades. If Obama gets re-elected then he's still going to have trouble getting any change (whether you like his change or not) with all the conflict in Washington. If someone else gets elected, they will have to same problem. Until the country as a whole has a sea change in its attitude neither party will bring any change at all.Dy_WarriorsXoXo
There is no "If Obama gets re-elected..." it is happening and the whole thing is staged.
OWS and Romney as the nominee coincidence? Plus President Obama has nearly one billion dollars raised already, that is more than all the other candidates combined.
Romney for instance has less than 1/4 of President Obama's reelection funding.
Last election President Obama raised twice as much as McCain raised...
What I would like to see is money out of politics. In my opinion, it's gotten out of hand.[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]with respect to what? an actual requirement for multipurposed bills or the general tone of what i'm saying? hard to tell with just text.airshocker
An actual requirement for multipurposed bills.
sarcasm. tough to convey sometimes.Economic policies... they all support "trickle down" which does not work and is the main reason why wealth inequality in the U.S is the highest since the great depression. Socially, religion dictates most of their polices (ex abortion, gay marriage), then the non religious ideas like cutting SS,Medicare and unemployment benefits as much as they can and they all support more infringements on civil liberties (yes even ron paul, just through state governments instead of the federal government) tldr : they all have terrible policies overall[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="Dy_WarriorsXoXo"]
You honestly need to define terms if the way you are using is not an accurate description.
How is Romney extreme in his religious views, or Ron Paul for that matter?
Could you also explain how their social and economic policies are "terrible" in more detail please?
Dy_WarriorsXoXo
Obama is the same way...
Romney stated he does not let religion impact his policies and that he is not very religious. His support of many of these policies are to get through the Republican primaries and even barring that you can be against abortion or same sex marriage without being religious (an anomoly but it is sort of stereotypical to think otherwise imo).
I never said Obama was that different, but I would rather have nothing done in congress then republicans controlling the house and presidency (possibly the senate)Please Log In to post.
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