Should OBAMA be re-elected?

Compared to the GOP candidates, yes.

Compared to the GOP candidates, yes.

Shadow4020

GOP = Gangrenous Old Pricks.

[QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] I'd say your use of hyperbole is fvcked. Seriously if NYs economic policy is extremely liberal than you must think Stephen Harper's a communist.Ace6301

Your sad lack of knowledge of NY's policies, however, are of relevance. Stop pretending that you know how liberal my home state is. It's clear that you have no f***ing clue.

As far as not knowing what Canada's politics are about... I don't have to know about them. I'm not involved in trade, diplomatic relations, military affairs, or any other occupation that woud require me to care about them, either. Unlike you, I don't pretend to know about them, either, nor do I feel arrogant enough to comment on how backwards they may or may not be.

Finally, there are people in the world (like me) who don't give a flying f*** about politics, except as they affect our daily lives. I don't laugh at people who care too much, but if you'd like, I'll make an exception for you.

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="OrkHammer007"]I don't know Canada's policies. I don't care about Canada's policies, other than the fact that your sales taxes tend to drive people to shop here in NY. Therefore, my opinion of your PM is of no relevance to te conversation.

Your sad lack of knowledge of NY's policies, however, are of relevance. Stop pretending that you know how liberal my home state is. It's clear that you have no f***ing clue.

OrkHammer007

As far as not knowing what Canada's politics are about... I don't have to know about them. I'm not involved in trade, diplomatic relations, military affairs, or any other occupation that woud require me to care about them, either. Unlike you, I don't pretend to know about them, either, nor do I feel arrogant enough to comment on how backwards they may or may not be.

Finally, there are people in the world (like me) who don't give a flying f*** about politics, except as they affect our daily lives. I don't laugh at people who care too much, but if you'd like, I'll make an exception for you.

Sure he should be re-elected. Who's the other choice? Romney?

One Big Ass Mistake America... Don't make that mistake again.

codymcclain14

[QUOTE="HarlockJC"][QUOTE="BoristheBlade1"]Its hard to say if he should be re-elected..Bush did a number to the US and Obama had to clean up the mess in half the time. Everyone wants to see results now, right away! .BoristheBlade1

I find myself believing that it would be best to vote third party.

Looking at the current crop, you might as well still vote for Obama or anyone else and still get the same problems. Or you could be smart and vote third party.

leviathan91

Yes, President Obama is trying his best Look up it...ThumpyBowser

Doesn't matter. The only person that would be useful is Mitt Romney because he has the money, but because he's human, why would he give society his money?

So I can't think of anyone that would be ready to be president, because no matter how hard that person will try, people will find someway to hate the person.

Obama tried getting us free health care, and all we did was deny it. Why? Wtf reason would we have to not want free health care????

I need to get out of here since I'm not too familiarised with Politics...

You're racist if you think otherwise.

well the GOP have not produced any sane candidates. so Obama it is.helwa1988

Hard to say. While I dont agree with all his policies, I'm not sure about his potential competitors. I dont think what we need right now is a large tax cut in the face of a gigantic deficit. We need to cut spending and keep revenues up.

[QUOTE="helwa1988"]well the GOP have not produced any sane candidates. so Obama it is.mingmao3046

... How bout the fact that he basically wants to dismantle 70 years of government policy with no real counter policies outside of "lets be free".. My personal favorite is when he preached that people should have the right to opt out of programs and pay a 10% flat tax with only military security being the only benefit.. Its statements like that that pretty much illustrates in my mind that he has no clue what he is talking about.. You can't go outside of your house with out using a government built road, following the government traffic system, eating in a resturante that the health agency ensures is safe, or getting groceries with the knowledge they are safe due to multiple government agences.. Or going to work realizing that you have certain legal worker rights enforced by the government..

Yes he is the lesser of two evils at this moment.. I honestly hope the Republican party loses by a landslide causing huge embarrassment so they break down and reinvent themselves.. The Republican party has become too extreme, the cancers of things like the Tea Party needs to be cut from them..sSubZerOo

[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]Yes he is the lesser of two evils at this moment.. I honestly hope the Republican party loses by a landslide causing huge embarrassment so they break down and reinvent themselves.. The Republican party has become too extreme, the cancers of things like the Tea Party needs to be cut from them..mattbbpl

I can't claim it as true, but it has an element of plausibility to it.

Thats a possibility but it would only allow the Democrats to win another election, sooner or later the Republican base will take the hint.. That they cannot continue to be this hawkish, anti science, anti intellectual organization relying on hostile rhetoric.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="helwa1988"]well the GOP have not produced any sane candidates. so Obama it is.sSubZerOo

... How bout the fact that he basically wants to dismantle 70 years of government policy with no real counter policies outside of "lets be free".. My personal favorite is when he preached that people should have the right to opt out of programs and pay a 10% flat tax with only military security being the only benefit.. Its statements like that that pretty much illustrates in my mind that he has no clue what he is talking about.. You can't go outside of your house with out using a government built road, following the government traffic system, eating in a resturante that the health agency ensures is safe, or getting groceries with the knowledge they are safe due to multiple government agences.. Or going to work realizing that you have certain legal worker rights enforced by the government..

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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"] whats wrong with ron paulmingmao3046

... How bout the fact that he basically wants to dismantle 70 years of government policy with no real counter policies outside of "lets be free".. My personal favorite is when he preached that people should have the right to opt out of programs and pay a 10% flat tax with only military security being the only benefit.. Its statements like that that pretty much illustrates in my mind that he has no clue what he is talking about.. You can't go outside of your house with out using a government built road, following the government traffic system, eating in a resturante that the health agency ensures is safe, or getting groceries with the knowledge they are safe due to multiple government agences.. Or going to work realizing that you have certain legal worker rights enforced by the government..

Nor did I say it was, but you CAN NOT deny during this time period that the US has not only had the biggest civil rights progress, and economic progress.. Either the government helped facilitate this, or it is not as restrictive to ever stop that from happening..

and he is talking about federal income tax

Which is the 16th amendment, he is against it.. Hence he is not a constitutionalist.. Stop saying he is.

...states could still have state income tax for the things you talk about. the federal government is far too big right now

Yet again we are replacing one form of government for another, the same things will happen.. He has provided absolutely NO real solutions outside of just saying dismantling it with no set plan in place.. Furthermore if Ron Paul's ideas are any remotely similar to his sons then HELL No.. His son a time back got grilled for upholding state government over civil rights laws.. I am sorry but thats just unacceptable.

[QUOTE="helwa1988"]well the GOP have not produced any sane candidates. so Obama it is.mingmao3046

He wants to dismantle most state institutions and regulations. Some downsizing is needed and US monatary policy is ridiculous, but overall his domestic libertarian policy is extremely radical. Deregulating the US market like Paul wants would be isnane. I like his libertarian foreign policy though. And he is well-read. But people need to look far past his honesty, likeability and sane-sounding foreign policies and look at what the man wants to do to domestically.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]

... How bout the fact that he basically wants to dismantle 70 years of government policy with no real counter policies outside of "lets be free".. My personal favorite is when he preached that people should have the right to opt out of programs and pay a 10% flat tax with only military security being the only benefit.. Its statements like that that pretty much illustrates in my mind that he has no clue what he is talking about.. You can't go outside of your house with out using a government built road, following the government traffic system, eating in a resturante that the health agency ensures is safe, or getting groceries with the knowledge they are safe due to multiple government agences.. Or going to work realizing that you have certain legal worker rights enforced by the government..

sSubZerOo

Nor did I say it was, but you CAN NOT deny during this time period that the US has not only had the biggest civil rights progress, and economic progress.. Either the government helped facilitate this, or it is not as restrictive to ever stop that from happening..

and he is talking about federal income tax

Which is the 16th amendment, he is against it.. Hence he is not a constitutionalist.. Stop saying he is.

...states could still have state income tax for the things you talk about. the federal government is far too big right now

Yet again we are replacing one form of government for another, the same things will happen.. He has provided absolutely NO real solutions outside of just saying dismantling it with no set plan in place.. Furthermore if Ron Paul's ideas are any remotely similar to his sons then HELL No.. His son a time back got grilled for upholding state government over civil rights laws.. I am sorry but thats just unacceptable.

[QUOTE="helwa1988"]well the GOP have not produced any sane candidates. so Obama it is.mingmao3046

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"][QUOTE="helwa1988"]well the GOP have not produced any sane candidates. so Obama it is.helwa1988

Not in Heck!!!:evil:

No. But unfortunately, we have no better options. Look at the Republic candidates. It's pathetic. Ron Paul is intriguing, but he hasn't a shot anyways...

he didn't even write the newsletters.mingmao3046

What you have to understand is that even if he himself did not pen them he still allowed them to be printed under his name in his publication. Sorry, but he can't just say "I didn't write that" and escape responsibility for them.

[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]he didn't even write the newsletters.worlock77

What you have to understand is that even if he himself did not pen them he still allowed them to be printed under his name in his publication. Sorry, but he can't just say "I didn't write that" and escape responsibility for them.

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[QUOTE="mingmao3046"]he didn't even write the newsletters.mingmao3046

What you have to understand is that even if he himself did not pen them he still allowed them to be printed under his name in his publication. Sorry, but he can't just say "I didn't write that" and escape responsibility for them.

I don't base my vote on it. I'm just saying it's an issue that's going to dog him for as long as he seeks public office.

a u.s. president has no more power to change the u.s.
than
a highschool chlass president has power to change his highschool

or in other words

theres a higher power making & keeping the major rules

Would a new President really chage it?gigantuouse

[QUOTE="Person0"]Compared to the clowns that the GOP has as candidates, definitely. gigantuouse

[QUOTE="gigantuouse"][QUOTE="Person0"]Compared to the clowns that the GOP has as candidates, definitely. monkeytoes61

Obama is lucky Perry dropped out of the race. He was going to end his war on religion................................................................

Obama is lucky Perry dropped out of the race. He was going to end his war on religion................................................................

Major_Snake

What war on religion?

well i'd rather have Obama than Santorum or Romney. i used to feel strongly against Gingrich, but even though he is a dispicable person, he may be able to get stuff done as president. now whether the stuff he gets done is good, or bad, i can't tell.

although having Ron Paul as president would please me the most.