Should parents give their kids alcohol at home?

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#1 uncledeath2005
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^ read topic

Just saw it on the news so i thought what the hey?

I don't think it should be illegal :P 

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#2 staindcoldlp
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Personally, I don't think so.

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#3 Orlando_Magic
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Sure why not.
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#4 LJS9502_basic
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What do you mean by that?  Should it be okay to let children have wine with dinner?  Or okay for them to get drunk/
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Don't really care :|
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I don´t care. BTW great that you´re back.:)
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#7 immortality20
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Sure if they're underage and at home. NO! What is to even discuss? Setting a bad example on how its okay to break the law? Setting future booze abuse into motion? Encouraging them?
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#8 uncledeath2005
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What do you mean by that? Should it be okay to let children have wine with dinner? Or okay for them to get drunk/LJS9502_basic

Well it was alcohol in any sense or situation ie a tipple with dinner,or a can of beer from your Dad. 

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#9 Snomel
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I want to say it's the parents' responsibility to teach children about alcohol. They should be allowed to let them drink in moderation, so that children know how alcohol affects them, and learn to drink sensibly.

However, unfortunately more and more parents now seem to be idiots. I was at a party recently, and my friend's 12 year old brother was running around getting drunk while his mum poured the drinks (each with more vodka in it than the last). Not good.

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#10 dommeus
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I don't think kids should be encouraged to get drunk, but I don't see the harm with having wine at dinner. If the parent is responsible then it can be moderated. If they aren't responsible, it's going to happen whether its made illegal or not.
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#11 double_decker
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I don't see anything wrong with it as long as it's in moderation, better than them going to some party, getting drunk and hurting themselves or getting in trouble in some way
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#12 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]What do you mean by that? Should it be okay to let children have wine with dinner? Or okay for them to get drunk/uncledeath2005

Well it was alcohol in any sense or situation ie a tipple with dinner,or a can of beer from your Dad. 

I think it leaves a lot of ambiguity open....like getting kids drunk and what is age appropriate?  Not all parents are responsible...likewise, the US is too uptight about alcohol which is why underage drinking is so attractive and creates many problems.

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#13 X360PS3AMD05
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no, but i still get into my dads stash :lol:
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#14 Mercury88
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It's not as if you can stop parents from giving their kids alcohol anyway.....at the end of the day, the parents themsleves will decide whether they want to give their child alcohol.
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#15 Jakesgotbeef
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that would be boring, alcohol isnt even very nice, its only good for getting drunk and getting drunk with your parents at home is pretty sad.
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#16 zeus_gb
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That all depends on how old they are and how much.
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#17 taker42
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You can either introduce your kids to alcohol and remove their curiosity or let them learn about it with friends and start to drink without your knowing. Not really a hard choice.
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#18 LJS9502_basic
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You can either introduce your kids to alcohol and remove their curiosity or let them learn about it with friends and start to drink without your knowing. Not really a hard choice.taker42

Introducing your kids to alcohol does not negate the possibility that with friends they will overindulge.:|

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#19 Elraptor
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If they're old enough, sure, in moderation.
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#20 LostProphetFLCL
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I say hell yes!

We are way too damn uptight about alcohol here in the US. It has put this idea in our culture that drinking alcohol is something "mature" and that when you do get your hands on the alcohol you gotta get wasted.

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#21 Chuzzlewax
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Where does it end?  Will parents be allowed to administer illegal drugs as well?
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#22 kitty  Moderator
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only if they are old enough to drink it
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Where does it end? Will parents be allowed to administer illegal drugs as well?Chuzzlewax

Hold still son you don't wanna break the needle.... 

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#24 darklord888
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I think giving kids when they're 15/16/17(18+ is when your allowed to drink in Australia) some alcohol to drink at home is fine. Not a whole 6 pack but maybe a can or bottle of whatever. My parents did that for me.

Also I think it is legal for any kid to drink alcohol as long as they're at home with an adult.

I think it's stupid not letting kids drink when they're underage. People don't change at 18(or 21) and turn into this whole new person who can hold their drink. I think letting kids experiment with a few drinks at home is much safer than them going off to a party and drinking tons because they're not allowed any at home.

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#25 zeus_gb
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I've their 15 or 16 (UK) and drinking in moderation then I don't see a big issue with it.  If on the other hand their getting completely wasted then no.
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#26 Snomel
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Here is an article explaining why this is being suggested, and what they are trying to achieve.

Just to clear up some confusion ^_^

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#27 dommeus
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Where does it end?  Will parents be allowed to administer illegal drugs as well?Chuzzlewax

Hmm...that's a reasonable reaction...

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[QUOTE="Chuzzlewax"]Where does it end? Will parents be allowed to administer illegal drugs as well?dommeus

Hmm...that's a reasonable reaction...

I think the point is, where will the line be drawn?  If parents should are going to give their kids something that is illegal to them, why stop at alcohol?  It's hypocritical to say that we'll give you this illegal substance, but not that one. 
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I think giving kids when they're 15/16/17(18+ is when your allowed to drink in Australia) some alcohol to drink at home is fine. Not a whole 6 pack but maybe a can or bottle of whatever. My parents did that for me.

Also I think it is legal for any kid to drink alcohol as long as they're at home with an adult.

I think it's stupid not letting kids drink when they're underage. People don't change at 18(or 21) and turn into this whole new person who can hold their drink. I think letting kids experiment with a few drinks at home is much safer than them going off to a party and drinking tons because they're not allowed any at home.

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Amen, i guess that's why when my dad was drunk one time and my uncle gave me a bud lite in front of him he was cool about it :D I dont go do stupid stuff. ^ you're right, where does it end, i think that drugs should be legal. As long as nobody hurts anyone and they're responsilble what's the problem? It's the people who take it way out of hand that need will need help. And i say help, not be thrown in jail, what does that solve? :?
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#30 brhisawsome
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no, thats like bad parenting, parents should e an example to kids,

i mean seriously wuts next let your kids walk around with a gun, at home?

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#31 g-unit248
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i dont see a problem if the kids are older teens and they just want a beer or something, but should parents throw keggers for their kids and all their ungerage friends? no way
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#32 freeze893
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No. I think it's best for kids to learn how much they can handle under supervision before they get out into the real world.  
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#33 taker42
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[QUOTE="taker42"]You can either introduce your kids to alcohol and remove their curiosity or let them learn about it with friends and start to drink without your knowing. Not really a hard choice.LJS9502_basic

Introducing your kids to alcohol does not negate the possibility that with friends they will overindulge.:|

I merely commenting on the problem of drinking behind your back. At least you know what's he's up to. As to overindulging, that would depend on him.
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#34 LJS9502_basic
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I merely commenting on the problem of drinking behind your back. At least you know what's he's up to. As to overindulging, that would depend on him.
taker42

Ah...but your conclusion is flawed.  Because one knows that their child drinks at home...does not mean he isn't doing so with friends.  I'd find it strange if that were the case because said child would have issues.  As to whether a child drinks or not...that comes down to parenting.  Some children never drink...that includes when they are adult.

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#35 Brainkiller05
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It's just a drink
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#36 wrlyy
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Yes but I say this as a damn no good teenager.
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#37 taker42
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[QUOTE="taker42"]I merely commenting on the problem of drinking behind your back. At least you know what's he's up to. As to overindulging, that would depend on him.
LJS9502_basic

Ah...but your conclusion is flawed. Because one knows that their child drinks at home...does not mean he isn't doing so with friends. I'd find it strange if that were the case because said child would have issues. As to whether a child drinks or not...that comes down to parenting. Some children never drink...that includes when they are adult.

I was thinking that if a parent has no problem with some issues, the kid can open up more easily. So he can say freely "I will be out at Pete's house partying and probably drink a few" instead of lying and say "I'm studying at Pete's, don't worry I won't do anything bad." And I said "introduce" the child to alcohol, whether he takes it up regularly is dependent on his normal upbringing. Mind you, I'm not forcing him to drink, if he wants, fine, if he doesn't, even better. As I mentioned, the objective of this exercise is to remove his curiosity about alcohol, not teach him drinking.
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#38 AmberFire
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Meh Alchohol Is gross anyway nah
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#39 LJS9502_basic
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I was thinking that if a parent has no problem with some issues, the kid can open up more easily. So he can say freely "I will be out at Pete's house partying and probably drink a few" instead of lying and say "I'm studying at Pete's, don't worry I won't do anything bad." And I said "introduce" the child to alcohol, whether he takes it up regularly is dependent on his normal upbringing. Mind you, I'm not forcing him to drink, if he wants, fine, if he doesn't, even better. As I mentioned, the objective of this exercise is to remove his curiosity about alcohol, not teach him drinking.
taker42

It's not curiousity so much as peer pressure that leads to underage drinking.  Most people don't like the taste of alcohol at first as well...what keeps them drinking is the social aspect of it and, of course, the buzz.  Plus, if you allow drinking at home...it may teach the child that you find that it's okay for him to drink. 

FYI...you can get arrested for allowing underage drinking at home....including with your own child.

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#40 X360PS3AMD05
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[QUOTE="taker42"]I merely commenting on the problem of drinking behind your back. At least you know what's he's up to. As to overindulging, that would depend on him.
LJS9502_basic

Ah...but your conclusion is flawed. Because one knows that their child drinks at home...does not mean he isn't doing so with friends. I'd find it strange if that were the case because said child would have issues. As to whether a child drinks or not...that comes down to parenting. Some children never drink...that includes when they are adult.

So i have issues because i only drink alone? :D oh and my friends never pressured me to smoke or drink, it was up to me, i decided to get wasted at gigs and i liked it.
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[QUOTE="taker42"]I was thinking that if a parent has no problem with some issues, the kid can open up more easily. So he can say freely "I will be out at Pete's house partying and probably drink a few" instead of lying and say "I'm studying at Pete's, don't worry I won't do anything bad." And I said "introduce" the child to alcohol, whether he takes it up regularly is dependent on his normal upbringing. Mind you, I'm not forcing him to drink, if he wants, fine, if he doesn't, even better. As I mentioned, the objective of this exercise is to remove his curiosity about alcohol, not teach him drinking.
LJS9502_basic

It's not curiousity so much as peer pressure that leads to underage drinking. Most people don't like the taste of alcohol at first as well...what keeps them drinking is the social aspect of it and, of course, the buzz. Plus, if you allow drinking at home...it may teach the child that you find that it's okay for him to drink.

FYI...you can get arrested for allowing underage drinking at home....including with your own child.

You do have a point. No, I'm not married yet, so no kids, but what I mentioned is what I feel about parenting. Gonna need a bit of fine-tuning, it seems.
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#42 branketra
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If their minds are still developing, they shouldn't drink. The stuff kills brain cell, doesn't it?
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#43 dhyce
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WHAT!? *spits out coffee*

No, no, no, no, noooooooooooooooooo.

Anyone under about the age of stereotyped maturity (about 21) should avoid alcohol. Too easily it creates a habbit, and a terrible one at that. It causes all kinds of problems that a developing mind just shouldn't touch. Parents should warn their children about alcohol, not encourage it.

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#44 LJS9502_basic
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 So i have issues because i only drink alone? :D oh and my friends never pressured me to smoke or drink, it was up to me, i decided to get wasted at gigs and i liked it.X360PS3AMD05

None of which changes what I've said......and the issues were with someone who'd rather hang at home with parents instead of friends.  But I'm happy for you skippy.

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#45 BlackHawk340
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maybe a glass of Red Wine
that good you know......
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#46 immortality20
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This thread shows how many underage people we have on GS. Seriously, the damage you could be setting could last a lifetime if you encourage drinking at any age. If its a choice, when its legal, then thats their fault. But if you say its okay to particapate in something thats not only illegal, but dangerous, then you are not a good parent. If you let an underage kid drink at home, he will got out at parties and he (or she) will use the exuse that you let them do it. And they'd be right because you made a mistake. I can almost garuntee everyone who voted yes is under the age in their respected country.

If you're not, then I hope you would never do this to your kids. Yes I'm 21 and I do drink with friends now, but if I had access to liquor when I was younger AND i was freely allowed to take it...God I'd probably be alot heavier drinker.

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#47 LJS9502_basic
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WHAT!? *spits out coffee*

No, no, no, no, noooooooooooooooooo.

Anyone under about the age of stereotyped maturity (about 21) should avoid alcohol. Too easily it creates a habbit, and a terrible one at that. It causes all kinds of problems that a developing mind just shouldn't touch. Parents should warn their children about alcohol, not encourage it.

dhyce

That's a bit overdramatic. Twenty one isn't a magic number...and frankly, since 18 is considered adult for everything else, I think the drinking age should be lowered.

Habits are formed way before 18.  Responsible people don't let alcohol deter them from succeeding and irresponsible people have bad habits already.  Besides, it's quite possible alcoholism is genetic.

A glass of wine with dinner is fine...no matter the age.;)

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#48 Chevolutionary
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Hell yeah, where else are you going to get anything when you're five years old?
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#49 dhyce
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That's a bit overdramatic. Twenty one isn't a magic number...and frankly, since 18 is considered adult for everything else, I think the drinking age should be lowered.

Habits are formed way before 18.  Responsible people don't let alcohol deter them from succeeding and irresponsible people have bad habits already.  Besides, it's quite possible alcoholism is genetic.

A glass of wine with dinner is fine...no matter the age.;)

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You missed my sly snakey e-tongue good sir. I said "stereotyped age of maturity." That is a clear indication that I'm aware it is not a magic number, however I think it is a good place to make alcohol legal, seems as how it allows time to be young and have some fun drinking, while not being too young.

The drinking age should not be lowered to about the age people begin driving, plus, more people right out of highschool being allowed to go to bars and such? No, I think that's a gigantic mistake.

It's obvious habits are formed way before 18, however, people at a turbulent time such as the tail end of puberty should not have the more habit forming opportunities pushed under their noses. You can't call the majority of 18 year olds responsible, most don't know the meaning of the word. Some are really responsible of course though.

Alcoholism can't be genetic. lol, one is only inclined to become an alcoholic based on exposure. Way way way back alcohol never existed for mankind, you mean to say a gene was there for us to make people desire something they've never tasted more so than others? That's pretty silly, hun. It's only nurture that creates an alcoholic.

And I disagree with the glass of wine thing, you also said no matter the age... please boys and girls, do not give babies glasses of wine. :P

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#50 bigdcstile
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Should they be forced to drink by their parents?  Should they get drunk?  What age are we talking about here?  What amounts?  What settings?  Kind of a vague question before we go yay or nay.