Should Salvia be made illegal in the US?

What do you guys think about Salviadivinorum? I just ordered some 10x out of curiousity and I'm really curious to see how it is. For those who are unsure what it is, it's a plant you smoke and essentially you hallucinate and "experience multiple realities" for 5-15 minutes. In many states you don't even need to be 18 to smoke it. I think at most, an age restriction should be placed on it. But I'm all for more freedom - I think it should remain legal in Washington (and became legal in the 9 states that have banned it).

What do you think? Like marijuanna, it hasn't taken any lives, isn't addictive, and isn't known to cause any brain damage.

I've smoked it about 5 times and the most I ever got from it was enhanced colors and the inability to properly speak words for 5 minutes. Not that impressive to be honest.

^ Basically what Mystik said. I prefer to buy a bag of the illegal stuff :P. Its kindve like a quick shroom high and I don't recommend drugs to you kids!

I've smoked it about 5 times and the most I ever got from it was enhanced colors and the inability to properly speak words for 5 minutes. Not that impressive to be honest.

MystikFollower

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I've smoked it about 5 times and the most I ever got from it was enhanced colors and the inability to properly speak words for 5 minutes. Not that impressive to be honest.

KHAndAnime

All I know is that it cost about 13 bucks from the smoke shop I went to , and the leaves were very dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHNNVtziEg

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="MystikFollower"]

I've smoked it about 5 times and the most I ever got from it was enhanced colors and the inability to properly speak words for 5 minutes. Not that impressive to be honest.

MystikFollower

All I know is that it cost about 13 bucks from the smoke shop I went to , and the leaves were very dry.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHNNVtziEg

Joshywaa

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHNNVtziEg

KHAndAnime

Most trips i've witnessed people experience were kind of along those lines, right there.

I suppose it is different, though, depending on how much you do, how strong it is, and what frame of mind you are in/your surroundings.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"][QUOTE="Joshywaa"]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHNNVtziEg

Joshywaa

Most trips i've witnessed people experience were kind of along those lines, right there.

I suppose it is different, though, depending on how much you do, how strong it is, and what frame of mind you are in/your surroundings.

That being said, you have to be so freaking careful with hallucinagens.

The slightest thing that can go wrong, WILL go wrong if you are not careful.

Plan it out before you ever try ANY hallucinagens (lcd, mushrooms, salvia). It is VERY serious business, and you should NOT be doing these drugs if you are just interested in getting "wasted" or "totally f-ed up" for the hell of it. That's not what these drugs are for.

Prepare yourself, also, for

unwanted life-changing spiritual experiences

BE CAREFUL.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHNNVtziEg

Joshywaa

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[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"] Scary. Seems like he had a bad trip.Joshywaa

Most trips i've witnessed people experience were kind of along those lines, right there.

I suppose it is different, though, depending on how much you do, how strong it is, and what frame of mind you are in/your surroundings.

That being said, you have to be so freaking careful with hallucinagens.

The slightest thing that can go wrong, WILL go wrong if you are not careful.

Plan it out before you ever try ANY hallucinagens (lcd, mushrooms, salvia). It is VERY serious business, and you should NOT be doing these drugs if you are just interested in getting "wasted" or "totally f-ed up" for the hell of it. That's not what these drugs are for.

Prepare yourself, also, for

unwanted life-changing spiritual experiences

BE CAREFUL.

Long as it stays legal in Canada I really don't care. You start taking my possible vices and I get angry.

I've never done any sort of drug, but I don't really know. I've heard salvia is a hallucinogenic, which I believe could potentially be a gateway drug to shrooms or acid, which isn't a can of worms I'd like to have opened, in the US or in canada where I live.XilePrincess

Cigs are a gateway to cancer and their legal. Alcohol is a gateway to possible bad choices and liver failre but it's legal.

I'm going to try it for the first time this month or next month. It's illegal in my state (North Dakota) and has been for about three years, but I live nearly on the border of North Dakota and Minnesota, so I will do it in Minnesota where it is legal (well, they've passed legislation to make it illegal on August 1st). I am all for the legalization of ALL drugs because I believe that people should have the right to ingest/consume whatever they want to. I believe that your body is your own. If you want to take drugs, then so be it. I'm not condoning drug use and I'm not trying to imply that drugs are good, but instead I'm saying that if people want to partake in personal experimentation, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to. I'm all for personal freedoms as long as they don't infringe on anyone else's.t3hrubikscube

Amen and happy tripping to you. I would try salvia myself. My buddy just tried shrooms recently and we wouldn't mind getting some friends together for a mini shrooms party.

I've never done any sort of drug, but I don't really know. I've heard salvia is a hallucinogenic, which I believe could potentially be a gateway drug to shrooms or acid, which isn't a can of worms I'd like to have opened, in the US or in canada where I live.XilePrincess

Shrooms (or rather their active ingredient psilocybin) and LSD are actually two of the least dangerous drugs on the planet. They are completely non-addictive and are as far as I know basically impossible to OD on.

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I've never done any sort of drug, but I don't really know. I've heard salvia is a hallucinogenic, which I believe could potentially be a gateway drug to shrooms or acid, which isn't a can of worms I'd like to have opened, in the US or in canada where I live.GabuEx

Shrooms (or rather their active ingredient psilocybin) and LSD are actually two of the least dangerous drugs on the planet. They are completely non-addictive and are as far as I know impossible to OD on.

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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I've never done any sort of drug, but I don't really know. I've heard salvia is a hallucinogenic, which I believe could potentially be a gateway drug to shrooms or acid, which isn't a can of worms I'd like to have opened, in the US or in canada where I live.PublicNuisance

Cigs are a gateway to cancer and their legal. Alcohol is a gateway to possible bad choices and liver failre but it's legal.

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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I've never done any sort of drug, but I don't really know. I've heard salvia is a hallucinogenic, which I believe could potentially be a gateway drug to shrooms or acid, which isn't a can of worms I'd like to have opened, in the US or in canada where I live.XilePrincess

Cigs are a gateway to cancer and their legal. Alcohol is a gateway to possible bad choices and liver failre but it's legal.

I could live with the age restriction.

drugs are bad, mm'kay?

[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I've never done any sort of drug, but I don't really know. I've heard salvia is a hallucinogenic, which I believe could potentially be a gateway drug to shrooms or acid, which isn't a can of worms I'd like to have opened, in the US or in canada where I live.GabuEx

Shrooms (or rather their active ingredient psilocybin) and LSD are actually two of the least dangerous drugs on the planet. They are completely non-addictive and are as far as I know impossible to OD on.

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[QUOTE="XilePrincess"]I've never done any sort of drug, but I don't really know. I've heard salvia is a hallucinogenic, which I believe could potentially be a gateway drug to shrooms or acid, which isn't a can of worms I'd like to have opened, in the US or in canada where I live.XilePrincess

Shrooms (or rather their active ingredient psilocybin) and LSD are actually two of the least dangerous drugs on the planet. They are completely non-addictive and are as far as I know impossible to OD on.

i totally agree.

(:

I wasn't so much worried about the ODing, but moreso the thrill seekers looking for a more extreme hallucination over time once the current drug of choice becomes just meh, leading to either trying a cocktail of drugs which could cause an overdose, or the hallucination leading the person to do something physically dangerous. I've heard various stories of people in my area taking hallucinogenic drugs and thinking they're doing something they're not, which results in drowning, being hit by cars, and one guy who electrocuted himself to death somehow. Like I said I don't know all that much about drugs, but I've heard some really scary crap, and besides that I'd rather not have to deal with people who are seeing things that aren't there running around in public.XilePrincess

Always best to have a spotter to keep you in check.

It might as well be, since its effects are more severe than many already illegal substances. I don't see any harm in it, but it's surprising that the government hasn't yet.

I wasn't so much worried about the ODing, but moreso the thrill seekers looking for a more extreme hallucination over time once the current drug of choice becomes just meh, leading to either trying a cocktail of drugs which could cause an overdose, or the hallucination leading the person to do something physically dangerous. I've heard various stories of people in my area taking hallucinogenic drugs and thinking they're doing something they're not, which results in drowning, being hit by cars, and one guy who electrocuted himself to death somehow. Like I said I don't know all that much about drugs, but I've heard some really scary crap, and besides that I'd rather not have to deal with people who are seeing things that aren't there running around in public.XilePrincess

Public intoxication is already against the law, for exactly that reason.

Most people who do shrooms and LSD do so and then just go sit on the couch and enjoy it. Deaths as a direct consequence of having consumed LSD or shrooms are exceedingly rare, and are generally the result of someone who was already a candidate for a Darwin award simply having that trait amplified.

It might as well be, since its effects are more severe than many already illegal substances. I don't see any harm in it, but it's surprising that the government hasn't yet.

Shiggums

Too busy fighting wars and spending trillions on dumb stuff.

[QUOTE="t3hrubikscube"]I'm going to try it for the first time this month or next month. It's illegal in my state (North Dakota) and has been for about three years, but I live nearly on the border of North Dakota and Minnesota, so I will do it in Minnesota where it is legal (well, they've passed legislation to make it illegal on August 1st). I am all for the legalization of ALL drugs because I believe that people should have the right to ingest/consume whatever they want to. I believe that your body is your own. If you want to take drugs, then so be it. I'm not condoning drug use and I'm not trying to imply that drugs are good, but instead I'm saying that if people want to partake in personal experimentation, I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to. I'm all for personal freedoms as long as they don't infringe on anyone else's.PublicNuisance

Amen and happy tripping to you. I would try salvia myself. My buddy just tried shrooms recently and we wouldn't mind getting some friends together for a mini shrooms party.

Salvia was made illegal here in North Carolina back in December 1, 2009, kinda sucks. Anyway Salvia is an interesting experience, but it's not all that great. Gives you an intense trip for 5-10 minutes and that's it. More enjoyable trips come from shrooms, DMT, and of course, the good A.

Salvia was made illegal here in North Carolina back in December 1, 2009, kinda sucks. Anyway Salvia is an interesting experience, but it's not all that great. Gives you an intense trip for 5-10 minutes and that's it. More enjoyable trips come from shrooms, DMT, and of course, the good A.

iAFXi

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTHNNVtziEg

Joshywaa

What do you think? Like marijuanna, it hasn't taken any lives, isn't addictiveKHAndAnime

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]What do you think? Like marijuanna, it hasn't taken any lives, isn't addictiveMushroomWig

and it decomposes your hippocampus,

which is the memory section of the brain.

[QUOTE="KHAndAnime"]What do you think? Like marijuanna, it hasn't taken any lives, isn't addictiveMushroomWig

I should at least get to try it first before it becomes bad by law :P

I should at least get to try it first before it becomes bad by law :P

Murj