Should same-sex couples be allowed to adopt children?

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#51 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]It affected mine. I miss my father very much so. Many people handle things very differently.sammyjenkis898

That doesn't mean its "despicable".

Yes it does. You make a vou of till death and to stick it out no matter what. Too many people rush into marriage.

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Why is it better for a child to stay in a foster home which already have the reputation of being in horrible living conditions normally, than to stay with a homosexual couple who would love and take care of the child? And who's to say that just because it's a heterosexual couple, that they would automatically take better care of said child? I vote yes. (duh)
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#53 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="samuraiguns"]It affected mine. I miss my father very much so. Many people handle things very differently.Pirate700

That doesn't mean its "despicable".

Yes it does. You make a vou of till death and to stick it out no matter what. Too many people rush into marriage.

No, it doesn't. I would have hated if my parents would have stayed together.
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#54 htekemerald
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asking this question would be no different from asking if blacks should be aloud to adopt white children back during the civil rights movement.

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Yeah, but this isn't a question of race. Being a certain color doesn't have an impact on how a child is raised by their parents (no matter if the child is adopted and is a different race than their step-parents). What I'm trying to say is that, I think, a child needs a mother figure AND a father figure. Having two of the same sex just doesn't make sense to me. I respect your opinion and everything, but I fail to see it your way.

Just like there was no evidence that blacks (or any other race for that matter) were inferior to whites, I have seen no evidence that a same-sex couple is inferior to a heterosexual couple.

I suppose the would be adopted child would be better off rotting in an orphanage, right?

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#55 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]That doesn't mean its "despicable".

sammyjenkis898

Yes it does. You make a vou of till death and to stick it out no matter what. Too many people rush into marriage.

No, it doesn't. I would have hated if my parents would have stayed together.

Then they shouldn't have gotten married in the first place.

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#56 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Yes it does. You make a vou of till death and to stick it out no matter what. Too many people rush into marriage.

Pirate700

No, it doesn't. I would have hated if my parents would have stayed together.

Then they shouldn't have gotten married in the first place.

Yes, because they knew they were going to get a divorce. :roll:
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]I actually would support this. I think divorce is despicable to even consider when you have a children at home (unless there is a situation of violence).tofu-lion91

Divorce is so terrible I've had a great childhood. Divorce is so terrible I have a mum who I can talk to about anything. Divorce is so terrible I left school with 17 grade A-C's at GCSE. Divorce is so terrible I got an A, B and C for my AS levels. Divorce is so terrible I'm in a loving stable relationship with a guy. Divorce is so terrible I'm going to join the police, earn lots of money, get married and have a family.

Yes I can really see your point, you've obviously lived through that terrible situation and know enough to say something like that.

I'm glad my parents were mature enough to divorce than live in an unhappy marriage for "the kids" sake. Also my dad was in the army so I would have had an unsettled education moving from place to place, not being able to make friends. I'm so glad that didn't happen.

wooot tell him tofu :)
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#58 DJ-Lafleur
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It would certainly be awkward at first to have two homosexual parents, but I'm sure the kids could get used to it, and love their homosexual parents (if the homoseual parents are nice parents, of course).

I cannot imagine growing up without a mother and father, but I am sure their are kids .that grew up with homosexual parents that could not conceive of living without their parents, as well.

So I would say it's alright. Besides, any good parents are better than no parents.

And also I don't really think many kids would make fun of the adopted child with homosexual parents. Sure there are probably some people like that, but hopefully the adopted kid can find people that are much more open-minded and thoughtful than that.

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Assuming that they can support and love said children, then yes, of course.

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[QUOTE="God_of_duty117"]Why is it better for a child to stay in a foster home which already have the reputation of being in horrible living conditions normally, than to stay with a homosexual couple who would love and take care of the child? And who's to say that just because it's a heterosexual couple, that they would automatically take better care of said child? I vote yes. (duh)

The foster system in the US is pure garbage. Just about anything is better than that.
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#61 FUBAR24
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Yes it does. You make a vou of till death and to stick it out no matter what. Too many people rush into marriage.

Pirate700

No, it doesn't. I would have hated if my parents would have stayed together.

Then they shouldn't have gotten married in the first place.

LMFAO there are A LOT of outside factors that can happen in a marrige to cause a divorce. my uncle and aunt divorced after my cousin past away because they saw her everytime they looked at eachother and made them extremely depressed. the seperated to keep themselves from killing themselves. but before my cousins death they had a perfectly healthy and loving relationship. you really know nothing of this subject do you
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#62 tofu-lion91
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] Yes, because they knew they were going to get a divorce. :roll:

This. And I'm so glad my parents got divorced. Best thing they could've done for me. I know bucket loads of people from school who did terribly, and they had parents who were together. P.S Having divorced parents usually means you get 2 birthday and Christmas presents, and don't have to listen to your parents argueing ;)
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I may be biased on this topic, but I think same-sex couples should have every right to adopt children. There have been numerous studies showing that children are no worse off with two men or two women than they are with one of each. Some people say that a child needs a mum and a dad. That's not necessarily true. A child needs a loving parent(s), be that two dads, two mums, or one of each. Would those who say a child needs one of each take away a child from a single parent? This is the exact same old-fashioned thinking that forced many women to re-marry to a 'solid' husband when their first one died. We're not in the 1950s any more, thankfully. As for the point about bullying, children are horrible to each other, and will bully or get bullied about anything and everything. Surely the best way to combat this is to encourage more adoption by same-sex couples, so that it becomes more accepted. There are thousands of children who need adoption. And there are lots of same-sex couples who want children, most of which will go down the adoption road. It is far better to be adopted by a loving couple, even if they are of the same sex, than to go from one foster home to the next, or to live in an orphanage. Same-sex couples can make great parents. In fact, they have as much chance of being great parents as straight couples. You have to remember that the process potential parents go through is very difficult. Its certainly more difficult than getting pregnant on a one-night stand. Homosexual parents do not raise homosexual children. The only difference is that the child will grow up knowing that being homosexual is perfectly normal, which is what a lot of parents unfortunately fail to install in their children. As for homosexuality not being normal, 'normal' is a state of mind. It was 'normal' to think the Earth was flat 1000 years ago, and it was 'normal' to own slaves 500 years ago. Opposing inter-racial marriage was 'normal' up to 50 years ago, and opposing homosexual marriage is still 'normal' today, for many people. You can't live a 'normal' life, or have a 'normal' upbringing. There is no perfect household. And the tyranny of the majority does not justify denying adoption rights. I'm sure a homosexual couple can get a lot closer to 'normal' than an orphanage. Being adopted by a same-sex couple may not be 'fair' to some of you. Being without parents isn't fair. In fact, life isn't fair. A child could do a lot worse than being adopted by two people of the same sex.
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#64 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"] No, it doesn't. I would have hated if my parents would have stayed together.FUBAR24

Then they shouldn't have gotten married in the first place.

LMFAO there are A LOT of outside factors that can happen in a marrige to cause a divorce. my uncle and aunt divorced after my cousin past away because they saw her everytime they looked at eachother and made them extremely depressed. the seperated to keep themselves from killing themselves. but before my cousins death they had a perfectly healthy and loving relationship. you really know nothing of this subject do you

That makes sense because they (I'm guessing) no longer have a child living at home. My argument was for parents that still have kids living there depending on them.

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wow, i cannot believe all the negative assumptions in this thread
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#66 Vaasman
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Hell no, especially if the child is of the opposite sex. I don't really mind same-sex marriages to be honest, but I honestly believe a child will grow up maladjusted in that kind of setting.

xaos

You know that studies and the experiences of several people here directly contradict that, right?

lol experiences of people here? Ok, let me give you my experience since that is considered valid. My best friend all through highschool grew up in a similar situation, and as he went through highschool I began to notice an obvious change in his mentality. He started ignoring me in school, getting angry at inappropriate times. He started doing drugs, not while we were hanging out, but he would talk about it a lot and show me because he knew it made me uncomfortable.

Then things started getting worse, he grew to be bipolar, rather unstable. For halloween my junior year he dressed as a woman, to which I was unsure of how to respond. Eventually he came on to me in a very uncomfortable manor, and we stopped hanging out after that. I later learned he had been sent to a mental health institute from a different friends recommendation, and this year I learned that he overdosed and died, likely intentionally. Despite a falling out of sorts, he was still one of my best friends, and a major influence on my sense of humor and how I interact with others (awkwardly).

As for studies, no, just no.

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Divorce is so terrible I'm in a loving stable relationship with a guy.tofu-lion91

The cynical shrink might ask, "Why did you feel compelled to seek a stable relationship at such a young age? Might you be subconsciously wishing to do whatever it takes to avoid repeating the mistakes of your parents?"

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#68 samuraiguns
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wow, i cannot believe all the negative assumptions in this threadlonewolf604
Because this thread is biased to feelings.
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I'd say no, especially if the child is of the same sex as the couple, people later in life will ask them if they've been "touched"

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Hell no, especially if the child is of the opposite sex. I don't really mind same-sex marriages to be honest, but I honestly believe a child will grow up maladjusted in that kind of setting.

Vaasman

You know that studies and the experiences of several people here directly contradict that, right?

lol experiences of people here? Ok, let me give you my experience since that is considered valid. My best friend all through highschool grew up in a similar situation, and as he went through highschool I began to notice an obvious change in his mentality. He started ignoring me in school, getting angry at inappropriate times. He started doing drugs, not while we were hanging out, but he would talk about it a lot and show me because he knew it made me uncomfortable. Then things started getting worse, he grew to be bipolar, rather unstable. For halloween my junior year he dressed as a woman, to which I was unsure of how to respond. Eventually he came on to me in a very uncomfortable manor, and we stopped hanging out after that. I later learned he had been sent to a mental health institute from a different friends recommendation, and thisyear I learned that he overdosed and died, likely intentionally. Despite a falling out of sorts, he was still one of my best friends, and a major influence on my sense of humor and how I interact with others (awkwardly).

As for studies, no, just no.

i dressed as a women on halloween its halloween who cares
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#71 sammyjenkis898
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I'd say no, especially if the child is of the same sex as the couple, people later in life will ask them if they've been "touched"

magitekk
Those people really know what they're talking about..
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[QUOTE="tofu-lion91"]Divorce is so terrible I'm in a loving stable relationship with a guy.Oleg_Huzwog

The cynical shrink might ask, "Why did you feel compelled to seek a stable relationship at such a young age? Might you be subconsciously wishing to do whatever it takes to avoid repeating the mistakes of your parents?"

damn cynicss >.
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I'd say no, especially if the child is of the same sex as the couple, people later in life will ask them if they've been "touched"

magitekk

I don't know about that. Regardless, I think with girls the situation wouldn't be so bad, if at all. For boys though, definitely a hell no. They will grow up ostracized.

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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]That doesn't mean its "despicable".

sammyjenkis898

Yes it does. You make a vou of till death and to stick it out no matter what. Too many people rush into marriage.

No, it doesn't. I would have hated if my parents would have stayed together.

Your talking about an abnormal family to begin with, they were not acting normally towards each other. You know the problem with people argueing for same sex couples is that your making exceptions look like it applies to all same-sex people. In things like this you have to look at the whole picture, you can't just make one picture of two same sex people with adopted kids, and say "there, everyoen else is going to be just like that." Same as you can't say when your parents divorce and your fine, that it means that everything is fine when their parents divorce. Besides I think when the kids grow up and see all these people with a mom and a dad, they are going to feel like something is missing. Besides that pic does not show the whole picture of what is going on, they are just posing. A picture does not tell that much.

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[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="Vaasman"]

Hell no, especially if the child is of the opposite sex. I don't really mind same-sex marriages to be honest, but I honestly believe a child will grow up maladjusted in that kind of setting.

Vaasman

You know that studies and the experiences of several people here directly contradict that, right?

lol experiences of people here? Ok, let me give you my experience since that is considered valid. My best friend all through highschool grew up in a similar situation, and as he went through highschool I began to notice an obvious change in his mentality. He started ignoring me in school, getting angry at inappropriate times. He started doing drugs, not while we were hanging out, but he would talk about it a lot and show me because he knew it made me uncomfortable. Then things started getting worse, he grew to be bipolar, rather unstable. For halloween my junior year he dressed as a woman, to which I was unsure of how to respond. Eventually he came on to me in a very uncomfortable manor, and we stopped hanging out after that. I later learned he had been sent to a mental health institute from a different friends recommendation, and this year I learned that he overdosed and died, likely intentionally. Despite a falling out of sorts, he was still one of my best friends, and a major influence on my sense of humor and how I interact with others (awkwardly).

As for studies, no, just no.

Indeed. Having homosexual parents could end up being a bad experience for some (sorry about your friend, BTW). For other children, though, it could be great and finally give them the home they want, and make them lead a happier life.

I don't know, I myself cannot conceive of growing up with homosexual parents, but that's because I grew up with heterosexual parents. The opposite probably applies to many adopted children of homosexual parents.

It's defienetly a touchy subject, though like I said before, two caring same-sex parents is better than having no parents, so I guess the child should give the homosexual parents a chance if they cannot get a heterosexual couple.

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[QUOTE="magitekk"]

I'd say no, especially if the child is of the same sex as the couple, people later in life will ask them if they've been "touched"

Pirate700

I don't know about that. Regardless, I think with girls the situation wouldn't be so bad, if at all. For boys though, definitely a hell no. They will grow up ostracized.

once again kids get made fun of all the time in school by the color of their hair, color of their skin, the clothes they wear, its no different if they have two moms or dads, you cant say no to letting them adopt just because they'll get made fun of. considering kids with a mom and a dad still get made fun of in school anyways
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Well, obviously they should be allowed to.
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#78 Dark__Link
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Absolutely. There is research on this, people. Look it up. Children brought up in minority sexuality households exhibit VERY FEW differences (those differences being increased tolerance of diversity, among others) from agemates raised in traditional households.

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The cynical shrink might ask, "Why did you feel compelled to seek a stable relationship at such a young age? Might you be subconsciously wishing to do whatever it takes to avoid repeating the mistakes of your parents?"Oleg_Huzwog
Lmao damn shrinks :P If I do end up getting a divorce later in life then so be it - I haven't let my parents mistakes alter what I want to do and actually view them getting divorced as a good thing. And I'd hardly call 17 young :P Just to throw this in here about relationships (as I've heard girls have unsettled relationships with boys if they have divorced parents) - I've had 3 boyfriends (including the on-going one with Hero). I went out with my first bf for 1 year 2 weeks, the second for 9 months and Hero for 1 year 2 months +. Talking to girls my age I seem to be a rarity as all my friends go through more boyfriends than hot dinners. I view my track record as being pretty damn good, and my parents haven't affected that :)
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#80 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="magitekk"]

I'd say no, especially if the child is of the same sex as the couple, people later in life will ask them if they've been "touched"

FUBAR24

I don't know about that. Regardless, I think with girls the situation wouldn't be so bad, if at all. For boys though, definitely a hell no. They will grow up ostracized.

once again kids get made fun of all the time in school by the color of their hair, color of their skin, the clothes they wear, its no different if they have two moms or dads, you cant say no to letting them adopt just because they'll get made fun of. considering kids with a mom and a dad still get made fun of in school anyways

You have to question though how a boy would get raised by two gay men. Especially if they are the extremely flamboyant kind. :?

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#81 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]I don't know about that. Regardless, I think with girls the situation wouldn't be so bad, if at all. For boys though, definitely a hell no. They will grow up ostracized.

Pirate700

once again kids get made fun of all the time in school by the color of their hair, color of their skin, the clothes they wear, its no different if they have two moms or dads, you cant say no to letting them adopt just because they'll get made fun of. considering kids with a mom and a dad still get made fun of in school anyways

You have to question though how a boy would get raised by two gay men. Especially if they are the extremely flamboyant kind. :?

What does it matter if they are? Your reason for them not being able to adopt is because "they'll be made fun of". Like Fubar said, everyone getsmade fun of. That's not a valid excuse for a gay couple not being allowed to adopt.

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I see no reason to prevent people from adopting based on how they were born and live their lives. The only issue is that there still exists some prejudice against homosexuals so people may make fun of the kid. But really there is no evidence that same-sex couples are any less capable than a regular husband and wife.
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Indeed. Having homosexual parents could end up being a bad experience for some (sorry about your friend, BTW). For other children, though, it could be great and finally give them the home they want, and make them lead a happier life.DJ-Lafleur
Right I'm off to bed. The conclusion of the thread is homosexual parents can be great and terrible, heterosexual parents can be great and terrible and single parents can be great and terrible. So it's best just to let everyone adopt as one type of parent doesn't seem to be better or worse than any other type.
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"] once again kids get made fun of all the time in school by the color of their hair, color of their skin, the clothes they wear, its no different if they have two moms or dads, you cant say no to letting them adopt just because they'll get made fun of. considering kids with a mom and a dad still get made fun of in school anywayssammyjenkis898

You have to question though how a boy would get raised by two gay men. Especially if they are the extremely flamboyant kind. :?

What does it matter if they are? Your reason for them not being able to adopt is because "they'll be made fun of". Like Fubar said, everyonegets made fun of. That's not a valid excuse for a gay couple not being allowed to adopt.

In my latter post, it's not just about getting made fun of...Remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

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#85 sammyjenkis898
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You have to question though how a boy would get raised by two gay men. Especially if they are the extremely flamboyant kind. :?

Pirate700

What does it matter if they are? Your reason for them not being able to adopt is because "they'll be made fun of". Like Fubar said, everyonegets made fun of. That's not a valid excuse for a gay couple not being allowed to adopt.

In my latter post, it's not just about getting made fun of...Remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

What are your other reasons?
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#86 God-Is-Dead
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No harm in it.
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#87 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

What does it matter if they are? Your reason for them not being able to adopt is because "they'll be made fun of". Like Fubar said, everyonegets made fun of. That's not a valid excuse for a gay couple not being allowed to adopt.

sammyjenkis898

In my latter post, it's not just about getting made fun of...Remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

What are your other reasons?

Look I'm not going to get into it because it's too easy to get banned here for doing so. I'm against it. You're not. Whatever.

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#88 wind-OF-s0rrOw
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I think they should. Why shouldn't they be allowed to adopt? Their is no diffrence but the gender of the paretns.
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#89 bededog
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Of course same-sex couples should be able to adopt, single people should be able to as well. Any loving family is better then a foster home, I don't see how having a same-sex couple as parents will affect anything.
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#90 DJ-Lafleur
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[QUOTE="DJ-Lafleur"]Indeed. Having homosexual parents could end up being a bad experience for some (sorry about your friend, BTW). For other children, though, it could be great and finally give them the home they want, and make them lead a happier life.tofu-lion91
Right I'm off to bed. The conclusion of the thread is homosexual parents can be great and terrible, heterosexual parents can be great and terrible and single parents can be great and terrible. So it's best just to let everyone adopt as one type of parent doesn't seem to be better or worse than any other type.

Yup. If a child cannot get a heterosexual couple, then he might as well try a homosexual couple. I certainly wouldn't want to stay at homeless shelter my whole childhood, and if the homosexual is caring, then there isn't really any harm.

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#91 luke1889
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I've always been against this idea. It would be an inherently warped unbringing.
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#92 -Sun_Tzu-
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Absolutely yes. Using the same rationale for not allowing gay's to adopt; single parents should not be allowed to raise children either. There is absolutely no conclusive empirical evidence that sugests that a gay couple is less capable of raising a child than a heterosexual couple.
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#93 Vaasman
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="FUBAR24"] once again kids get made fun of all the time in school by the color of their hair, color of their skin, the clothes they wear, its no different if they have two moms or dads, you cant say no to letting them adopt just because they'll get made fun of. considering kids with a mom and a dad still get made fun of in school anywayssammyjenkis898

You have to question though how a boy would get raised by two gay men. Especially if they are the extremely flamboyant kind. :?

What does it matter if they are? Your reason for them not being able to adopt is because "they'll be made fun of". Like Fubar said, everyonegets made fun of. That's not a valid excuse for a gay couple not being allowed to adopt.

You seem to be forgetting life doesn't stop after gradeschool. Iwas never genuinelymade fun of in highschool, by that age your enemies have better things to worry about. That won't apply the same way to a child in a same-sex house. Homophobic teenagers or parents are not so forgiving, they can be very insensitive resulting in direct or indirect hatred being cast onto the child. Going through puberty in that kind of setting has to be hell.

Not to mention a same-sex family will be unable toaccurately tell a straight child what is appropriate to say when talking to the opposite sex.

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#94 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You have to question though how a boy would get raised by two gay men. Especially if they are the extremely flamboyant kind. :?

Pirate700

What does it matter if they are? Your reason for them not being able to adopt is because "they'll be made fun of". Like Fubar said, everyonegets made fun of. That's not a valid excuse for a gay couple not being allowed to adopt.

In my latter post, it's not just about getting made fun of...Remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

So how did homosexuals originate? If homosexual parents raise homosexual children, surely every straight couple in the world would have raised straight children.
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#95 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You have to question though how a boy would get raised by two gay men. Especially if they are the extremely flamboyant kind. :?

Pirate700

What does it matter if they are? Your reason for them not being able to adopt is because "they'll be made fun of". Like Fubar said, everyonegets made fun of. That's not a valid excuse for a gay couple not being allowed to adopt.

In my latter post, it's not just about getting made fun of...Remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

So your argument is based on aphorisms? Really?
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#96 Pirate700
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[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

What does it matter if they are? Your reason for them not being able to adopt is because "they'll be made fun of". Like Fubar said, everyonegets made fun of. That's not a valid excuse for a gay couple not being allowed to adopt.

Bourbons3

In my latter post, it's not just about getting made fun of...Remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

So how did homosexuals originate? If homosexual parents raise homosexual children, surely every straight couple in the world would have raised straight children.

I'm not suggesting the kid would grow up to be gay.

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#97 scoots9
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No, unless maybe it's an older (~13+) child who understands what they're getting into.

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#98 FUBAR24
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[QUOTE="FUBAR24"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]I don't know about that. Regardless, I think with girls the situation wouldn't be so bad, if at all. For boys though, definitely a hell no. They will grow up ostracized.

Pirate700

once again kids get made fun of all the time in school by the color of their hair, color of their skin, the clothes they wear, its no different if they have two moms or dads, you cant say no to letting them adopt just because they'll get made fun of. considering kids with a mom and a dad still get made fun of in school anyways

You have to question though how a boy would get raised by two gay men. Especially if they are the extremely flamboyant kind. :?

what should it matter as long as the kid is loved and cared for like any other child is?
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#99 Bourbons3
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[QUOTE="sammyjenkis898"]

[QUOTE="Pirate700"]

You have to question though how a boy would get raised by two gay men. Especially if they are the extremely flamboyant kind. :?

Vaasman

What does it matter if they are? Your reason for them not being able to adopt is because "they'll be made fun of". Like Fubar said, everyonegets made fun of. That's not a valid excuse for a gay couple not being allowed to adopt.

You seem to be forgetting life doesn't stop after gradeschool. Iwas never genuinelymade fun of in highschool, by that age your enemies have better things to worry about. That won't apply the same way to a child in a same-sex house. Homophobic teenagers or parents are not so forgiving, they can be very insensitive resulting in direct or indirect hatred being cast onto the child. Going through puberty in that kind of setting has to be hell.

Not to mention asame-sex family will be unable to appropriately tell a straight child what is appropriate to say when talking to the opposite sex.

A child can be a real nasty piece of work. If a bully is determined to pick on someone, they'll do it, for whatever reason. And they'll drive that reason home as far as they can. Bullies are the worst kind of people, and it will take a lot less than someone having same-sex parents for them to pick on them. That's not a good enough reason to prevent someone the right to adopt a child. As for giving advice, how many teenagers actually ask their own parents for advice on sex? The vast majority would be either (a) too wierded out by the prospect of their parents actually having sex at some point, (b) uncomfortable with that type of conversation with their parents, or (c) both.
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#100 194197844077667059316682358889
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[QUOTE="Bourbons3"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]In my latter post, it's not just about getting made fun of...Remember the apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Pirate700

So how did homosexuals originate? If homosexual parents raise homosexual children, surely every straight couple in the world would have raised straight children.

I'm not suggesting the kid would grow up to be gay.

Hrm, then what exactly are you suggesting? That seemed to be the strong implication you were making.