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#51 TacticalDesire
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[QUOTE="dave123321"] Careful branBranKetra
Hey, I didn't mean anything bad by that. Don't be so uptight.
Indeed, children are demons. Beating them just makes them worse. They plot revenge then.Sunsha
Sometimes. I've heard people being grateful that their parents beat their butts.

Those are usually the less intelligent ones with the minimum wage jobs.

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#52 _R34LiTY_
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Capital Punishment is more like it !!!:twisted:

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#53 JohnF111
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Oh! Great idea!! We could hire murderers and unstable convicts to be teachers!! You annoy him then you'll know the risk it results in, homework will be handed in on time, students will sit quiet and there will be no running in the halls because if you run in the halls Big Dave from Block C will not be happy.
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#54 branketra
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<3 you brandave123321
-huzzah-

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#55 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"] Sometimes. I've heard people being grateful that their parents beat their butts.TacticalDesire

Those are usually the less intelligent ones with the minimum wage jobs.

Oh really? That's different. Never heard that before, actually. I wonder if there are actual studies on that.

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#56 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"]<3 you branBranKetra

-huzzah-

Hm
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#57 Bane_09
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No, there are better ways to train behavior

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#58 Nibroc420
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Capital Punishment is more like it !!!:twisted:

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I came here to say it. So i second.
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#59 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"]

[QUOTE="dave123321"]<3 you brandave123321

-huzzah-

Hm

You don't like the smiley?
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#60 dave123321
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[QUOTE="dave123321"][QUOTE="BranKetra"]-huzzah-BranKetra
Hm

You don't like the smiley?

I do. Though dont exactly get what is happening.
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#61 CHOASXIII
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Capital punishment would be better.

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#62 branketra
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[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="dave123321"] Hmdave123321
You don't like the smiley?

I do. Though dont exactly get what is happening.

That's good. It means huzzah.

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#63 The__Kraken
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They should just have the death penalty. Act like a little s---head, you die. Everybody wins.

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#65 Krelian-co
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this thread remind me of this

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I'm willing to bet money most of the nos are from people under 25 who grew up in the 90s and 2000s. I'm not saying that beating kids is the answer but working with high schools for the past three years has shown me it is ridiculous how many people already have felony convictions on their record nowadays before they're even old enough to legally drink a beer.
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#67 raynimrod
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Absolutely! Bring it back and teach all those little sh*ts some respect!

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No, children who are spanked have lower IQs and are more likely to be violent.

Pretty sure both qualities are things to be avoided.

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#69 branketra
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No, children who are spanked have lower IQs and are more likely to be violent.

Pretty sure both qualities are things to be avoided.

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The latter aside, is lower IQ actually caused by spankings?
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I'm willing to bet money most of the nos are from people under 25 who grew up in the 90s and 2000s. I'm not saying that beating kids is the answer but working with high schools for the past three years has shown me it is ridiculous how many people already have felony convictions on their record nowadays before they're even old enough to legally drink a beer.ad1x2
well, the drinking age is pretty high. but in all seriousness, the felonies are probably from the stupid zero-tolerance policies.
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What are your thoughts on this? Should schools start doing it again or more? For what behaviors should this be valid for? Why do you support or not support it? Discuss.dave123321

Nope. The can of whoopass should come from the parents.

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#72 Drakes_Fortune
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No, what blurayhd thinks about this dave?
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[QUOTE="ad1x2"]I'm willing to bet money most of the nos are from people under 25 who grew up in the 90s and 2000s. I'm not saying that beating kids is the answer but working with high schools for the past three years has shown me it is ridiculous how many people already have felony convictions on their record nowadays before they're even old enough to legally drink a beer.l4dak47
well, the drinking age is pretty high. but in all seriousness, the felonies are probably from the stupid zero-tolerance policies.

Actually, it's kind of low when you consider the brain develops until you're 25. But still, I wouldn't have a problem with it going to 18 if people are responsible. As for the felonies, it's not always zero tolerance. Most of the zero tolerance policies only result in a misdemeanor, such as fighting in school.

When I was a recruiter I talked to one guy who was 18 and he had a domestic violence charge against him for beating his then-girlfriend. Another guy who was trying to enlist got rejected for two felonies at 17 because he got a burglary charge at 14 and he molested his little sister while he was 12.

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instead of punishing kids for bad behaviour, we should open a special section of the school called "delinquent land" where students would be able to bully, vandalize, make sexual advances, and all that other good stuff at their own leisure with no consequences because the knowledge that the only future they have is a job cleaning toilets or prison would eventually be enough to psychologically change their behaviour.

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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="ad1x2"]I'm willing to bet money most of the nos are from people under 25 who grew up in the 90s and 2000s. I'm not saying that beating kids is the answer but working with high schools for the past three years has shown me it is ridiculous how many people already have felony convictions on their record nowadays before they're even old enough to legally drink a beer.ad1x2

well, the drinking age is pretty high. but in all seriousness, the felonies are probably from the stupid zero-tolerance policies.

Actually, it's kind of low when you consider the brain develops until you're 25. But still, I wouldn't have a problem with it going to 18 if people are responsible. As for the felonies, it's not always zero tolerance. Most of the zero tolerance policies only result in a misdemeanor, such as fighting in school.

When I was a recruiter I talked to one guy who was 18 and he had a domestic violence charge against him for beating his then-girlfriend. Another guy who was trying to enlist got rejected for two felonies at 17 because he got a burglary charge at 14 and he molested his little sister while he was 12.

Those guys are just weird and no amount of beating will do anything for them. In fact, the guy who had a domestic violence charge probably was abused as a kid by his parents. Furthermore, I wouldn't be surprised to hear this if I was in the military as that tends to draw the unsavory types of society.
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hell yes. lol@ liberals who think the real trouble makers should just be sent in the corner. corporal punishment is the way to go for out of line behaviour
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I'm willing to bet money most of the nos are from people under 25 who grew up in the 90s and 2000s. I'm not saying that beating kids is the answer but working with high schools for the past three years has shown me it is ridiculous how many people already have felony convictions on their record nowadays before they're even old enough to legally drink a beer.ad1x2

You think that but that's not the case. From my experience with my parents, punishments that involve physical contact work only in the short term. It never works because instead of respecting authority, they're treated with resentment and malcontent from the person who received it. I'm not suggesting that children are angels nor should we do anything about them but there are better alternatives than actually using physical punishment.

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Let's institute a battle royal system; how about that?
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#79 Nibroc420
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Let's institute a battle royal system; how about that?Elraptor
with the worst students from each class (as ranked by their teachers) would fight each-other to the death? sounds fun :D
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[QUOTE="ad1x2"]I'm willing to bet money most of the nos are from people under 25 who grew up in the 90s and 2000s. I'm not saying that beating kids is the answer but working with high schools for the past three years has shown me it is ridiculous how many people already have felony convictions on their record nowadays before they're even old enough to legally drink a beer.leviathan91

You think that but that's not the case. From my experience with my parents, punishments that involve physical contact work only in the short term. It never works because instead of respecting authority, they're treated with resentment and malcontent from the person who received it. I'm not suggesting that children are angels nor should we do anything about them but there are better alternatives than actually using physical punishment.

Just like any other punishment it varies based on the person. I wouldn't cross my uncle because I knew what would happen if I did. When I was in the second grade I ran out of school and went home and he drove across town just to give me the spanking of a lifetime. On the other hand, not everybody takes a spanking and learns from it.

The main thing that is taught to parents who do spank their children is to not do it while angry. That's so you don't take your anger out on the kid and hurt them more than necessary or even go into the relm of child abuse. For children who it doesn't work on another method has to be made, just letting them get away with it is the wrong answer and why some people have a sense of entitlement.

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#81 TopTierHustler
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No, children who are spanked have lower IQs and are more likely to be violent.

Pretty sure both qualities are things to be avoided.

BranKetra

The latter aside, is lower IQ actually caused by spankings?

Yes sir, they also have symptoms of post tramatic stress disorder.

The same disorder soilders get after seeing people die in combat.

F*cked up yes?

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#82 leviathan91
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="ad1x2"]I'm willing to bet money most of the nos are from people under 25 who grew up in the 90s and 2000s. I'm not saying that beating kids is the answer but working with high schools for the past three years has shown me it is ridiculous how many people already have felony convictions on their record nowadays before they're even old enough to legally drink a beer.ad1x2

You think that but that's not the case. From my experience with my parents, punishments that involve physical contact work only in the short term. It never works because instead of respecting authority, they're treated with resentment and malcontent from the person who received it. I'm not suggesting that children are angels nor should we do anything about them but there are better alternatives than actually using physical punishment.

Just like any other punishment it varies based on the person. I wouldn't cross my uncle because I knew what would happen if I did. When I was in the second grade I ran out of school and went home and he drove across town just to give me the spanking of a lifetime. On the other hand, not everybody takes a spanking and learns from it.

The main thing that is taught to parents who do spank their children is to not do it while angry. That's so you don't take your anger out on the kid and hurt them more than necessary or even go into the relm of child abuse. For children who it doesn't work on another method has to be made, just letting them get away with it is the wrong answer and why some people have a sense of entitlement.

Perhaps you're right. When my parents (mainly my mother) gave me a spanking, they were angry even at the tiniest of things or even when I didn't do anything at all. Also, it wasn't on the buttocks but rather the face. I wasn't the best behaving child with but my parents's parenting were awful. They did provide a lot on a material level but getting emotional support from them was impossible. In fact, they always assumed the worst from me and my brothers.

Perhaps there's more to than just giving a spanking but I still wouldn't support it, advise it, or even use it. There are better ways.

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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="ad1x2"]I'm willing to bet money most of the nos are from people under 25 who grew up in the 90s and 2000s. I'm not saying that beating kids is the answer but working with high schools for the past three years has shown me it is ridiculous how many people already have felony convictions on their record nowadays before they're even old enough to legally drink a beer.ad1x2

You think that but that's not the case. From my experience with my parents, punishments that involve physical contact work only in the short term. It never works because instead of respecting authority, they're treated with resentment and malcontent from the person who received it. I'm not suggesting that children are angels nor should we do anything about them but there are better alternatives than actually using physical punishment.

Just like any other punishment it varies based on the person.

It doesn't work though, people who are spanked have lower IQs across the board.

Maybe the people that weren't spanked can justifiably be entitled though, as they have higher IQs than their spanked piers lol.

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#85 Chris_Williams
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no, school is there to teach kids not disicipline thats what the parents are for.

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[QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"][QUOTE="almasdeathchild"]ive known students to punch teachers just for telling them things. trust me as much as i support the paddle,kids these days are so rebellious and douche baggy that it might actually only make things worse

JasonDarksavior

No, the reason they punch teachers is because they can get away with it. If the teacher even breathes on them the parents will sue the school and teacher. If they allow the teacher to give the kid a good spanking and the parent can't do nothing about it, the tables will turn and authority will be restored.

I'm not sure how they teach in America, but in Australia if that happened the police will be called in and they'll probably be charged ...

Actually, we have the same problem with some of them being exaggerated.

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What are your thoughts on this? Should schools start doing it again or more? For what behaviors should this be valid for? Why do you support or not support it? Discuss.dave123321

Provide better education, not better punishment

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#88 leviathan91
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no, school is there to teach kids not disicipline thats what the parents are for.

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What if some of them are unruly? Call the police?

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[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

no, school is there to teach kids not disicipline thats what the parents are for.

leviathan91

What if some of them are unruly? Call the police?

My high school had cops on duty there all day anyways :P

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Yeah, with a nuclear bomb.
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="Chris_Williams"]

no, school is there to teach kids not disicipline thats what the parents are for.

wis3boi

What if some of them are unruly? Call the police?

My high school had cops on duty there all day anyways :P

Same here and I didn't mind. Do I think cops should be in public schools? Ideally no but to be realistic, might as well have them.

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[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"][QUOTE="APiranhaAteMyVa"] No, the reason they punch teachers is because they can get away with it. If the teacher even breathes on them the parents will sue the school and teacher. If they allow the teacher to give the kid a good spanking and the parent can't do nothing about it, the tables will turn and authority will be restored.leviathan91

I'm not sure how they teach in America, but in Australia if that happened the police will be called in and they'll probably be charged ...

Actually, we have the same problem with some of them being exaggerated.

I'm in my last year of HS, and I'm sure if anyone hits a teacher the police will be involved. They don't just get away with it. Also, many kids are scared that if they muck up they won't be allowed to complete their HSC.
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#93 dave123321
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instead of punishing kids for bad behaviour, we should open a special section of the school called "delinquent land" where students would be able to bully, vandalize, make sexual advances, and all that other good stuff at their own leisure with no consequences because the knowledge that the only future they have is a job cleaning toilets or prison would eventually be enough to psychologically change their behaviour.

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Reminds me of blu's rape land idea.
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[QUOTE="leviathan91"]

[QUOTE="JasonDarksavior"] I'm not sure how they teach in America, but in Australia if that happened the police will be called in and they'll probably be charged ...JasonDarksavior

Actually, we have the same problem with some of them being exaggerated.

I'm in my last year of HS, and I'm sure if anyone hits a teacher the police will be involved. They don't just get away with it. Also, many kids are scared that if they muck up they won't be allowed to complete their HSC.

Well of course but I'm talking about very small things like kids splashing in a puddle and then the police arresting them.