Should the minimum driving age in the USA be raised?

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#1 deactivated-614fa247a87ab
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I think it should be raised to 18. 16 year olds and cars = too many accidents. Sure they can drive like anyone else, but once their "Beavis and Butthead" friends get in the car with them,peer pressure and testosterone temptations take over to make them want to show off in their car. That's not meant for the road. And yeah, someone 18 or older could be just as ignorant, but they have to be tried as an adult and pay greater consequences.
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i think its fine as it is
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#3 BEAN_LARD_MULCH
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i think its fine as it isSerial-No_3404

YEah Its fine how it is.
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#4 MichaeltheCM
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idk let the states decide. wherever accidents with 16 year olds is high, raise the age
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#5 Hellraiser3899
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I've seen some pretty retarded teenagers behind the wheel, also, I've seen plenty of retarded older drivers. Awareness more than age is important, you hit someone with a car they die, but a lot of people of all ages can't seem to understand that.

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#6 Mumbles527
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Raise the driving age to 18, but more importantly, retest people at 65 or 70.
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#7 Fortier
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No...the reason why a lots of younger drivers get into accidents is because driving is a new concept for them and like anyone of any age, you'll always experiment and push to the limits something new in your life, especially of that magnitude.
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Couldn't they just use mopeds >___>

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#9 ernie1989
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No. They are going to have to learn sometime and they might as well learn how to drive before to graduate and do other things with their life.
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No...the reason why a lots of younger drivers get into accidents is because driving is a new concept for them and like anyone of any age, you'll always experiment and push to the limits something new in your life, especially of that magnitude.Fortier

That's true to a certain point. Yes it's a new and big concept to them, but at the same time, they don't understand the consequences. I've taken flying lessons off and on for a few years and remember the first time I was left in the little Cessna single engine prop plane all alone and told, "Just take it up and around and try not to have a bumpy touchdown." I about shat myself because I realized what would happen if i messed up. Many younger folks don't realize that driving a vehicle doesn't make them invincible until it's too late.

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#12 cornlockes
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It's fine how it is. But As the other guy said 70 yr olds need to be retested or just banned from the roads.
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Couldn't they just use mopeds >___>

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The main reason why there are so many accidents at that age is inexperience.

Raising the age limit won't do anything but make more accidents with 18-20 year olds.

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#15 Fortier
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[QUOTE="Fortier"]No...the reason why a lots of younger drivers get into accidents is because driving is a new concept for them and like anyone of any age, you'll always experiment and push to the limits something new in your life, especially of that magnitude.jt222_us

That's true to a certain point. Yes it's a new and big concept to them, but at the same time, they don't understand the consequences. I've taken flying lessons off and on for a few years and remember the first time I was left in the little Cessna single engine prop plane all alone and told, "Just take it up and around and try not to have a bumpy touchdown." I about shat myself because I realized what would happen if i messed up. Many younger folks don't realize that driving a vehicle doesn't make them invincible until it's too late.

That's true to a point as well...but there are some things they have to learn the hard way. Raising the driving age will doubtlessly decrease the number accidents...but I don't think its worth the freedom that all the responsible teen drivers will lose.

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I think it's fine as is.

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#17 deactivated-614fa247a87ab
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The main reason why there are so many accidents at that age is inexperience.

Raising the age limit won't do anything but make more accidents with 18-20 year olds.

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If inexperience is the reason, then why not just lower the age to 14 or 10 or heck, whenever they can physically sit in the driver's seat of a vehicle and step on the gas and turn the steering wheel?

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#18 minevich1
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Here At Israel,min Age For Learning Driving Is 16,the Min Age For Test And For license is 17.

But here it's not like in the usa that youre mother or father teach u,here u need to take adriving teacher=a lot of money.

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#19 ThaStig
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Whether a new driver is 16 or 25, there are still going to be accidents. No matter what age, an inexperienced driver is still an inexperienced driver. And don't give me that maturity BS either. Just because you're mature doesn't mean you can drive.
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#20 WildLIkeChild
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[QUOTE="WildLIkeChild"]

The main reason why there are so many accidents at that age is inexperience.

Raising the age limit won't do anything but make more accidents with 18-20 year olds.

jt222_us

If inexperience is the reason, then why not just lower the age to 14 or 10 or heck, whenever they can physically sit in the driver's seat of a vehicle and step on the gas and turn the steering wheel?

Because they need to mature to a certain point. I have friends who are 18 and just started driving who are much worse drivers than me. I'm only 17, but I've been drving for two years.

When I started out I would've died if I tried to get on the freeway. When I started driving every turn was a 90 degree angle, every stop was hard, and every acceleration was jerky. That wouldn't have changed between the age of 16 and 18.

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[QUOTE="Fortier"]No...the reason why a lots of younger drivers get into accidents is because driving is a new concept for them and like anyone of any age, you'll always experiment and push to the limits something new in your life, especially of that magnitude.jt222_us

That's true to a certain point. Yes it's a new and big concept to them, but at the same time, they don't understand the consequences. I've taken flying lessons off and on for a few years and remember the first time I was left in the little Cessna single engine prop plane all alone and told, "Just take it up and around and try not to have a bumpy touchdown." I about shat myself because I realized what would happen if i messed up. Many younger folks don't realize that driving a vehicle doesn't make them invincible until it's too late.

True, but I'm 17, and I'm guilty of driving like I stole it. But the thing is I don't do that when other lives are at risk. I do it on empty streets because I know if I hit a car we are both screwed. And I guess I have the racer mentality too, which doesn't help :?
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[QUOTE="Sir_Marwin"]

Couldn't they just use mopeds >___>

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or an electronic moped :D
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#23 deactivated-614fa247a87ab
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[QUOTE="jt222_us"]

[QUOTE="Fortier"]No...the reason why a lots of younger drivers get into accidents is because driving is a new concept for them and like anyone of any age, you'll always experiment and push to the limits something new in your life, especially of that magnitude.ThaStig

That's true to a certain point. Yes it's a new and big concept to them, but at the same time, they don't understand the consequences. I've taken flying lessons off and on for a few years and remember the first time I was left in the little Cessna single engine prop plane all alone and told, "Just take it up and around and try not to have a bumpy touchdown." I about shat myself because I realized what would happen if i messed up. Many younger folks don't realize that driving a vehicle doesn't make them invincible until it's too late.

True, but I'm 17, and I'm guilty of driving like I stole it. But the thing is I don't do that when other lives are at risk. I do it on empty streets because I know if I hit a car we are both screwed. And I guess I have the racer mentality too, which doesn't help :?

at least you admit it. many young people have a need for speed, which is why i think that there should be more race tracks set up for folks to go out and be able to step on the pedal and go real fast and have a good time without making the public at risk.

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[QUOTE="ThaStig"][QUOTE="jt222_us"]

[QUOTE="Fortier"]No...the reason why a lots of younger drivers get into accidents is because driving is a new concept for them and like anyone of any age, you'll always experiment and push to the limits something new in your life, especially of that magnitude.jt222_us

That's true to a certain point. Yes it's a new and big concept to them, but at the same time, they don't understand the consequences. I've taken flying lessons off and on for a few years and remember the first time I was left in the little Cessna single engine prop plane all alone and told, "Just take it up and around and try not to have a bumpy touchdown." I about shat myself because I realized what would happen if i messed up. Many younger folks don't realize that driving a vehicle doesn't make them invincible until it's too late.

True, but I'm 17, and I'm guilty of driving like I stole it. But the thing is I don't do that when other lives are at risk. I do it on empty streets because I know if I hit a car we are both screwed. And I guess I have the racer mentality too, which doesn't help :?

at least you admit it. many young people have a need for speed, which is why i think that there should be more race tracks set up for folks to go out and be able to step on the pedal and go real fast and have a good time without putting the public at risk.

I would definitely prefer a racetrack to the street. Streets are.....boring :? Definitely have the need for speed. Im surprised I havn't gotten a speeding ticket actually :D
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Its 17 here, and still most fatal accidents are drivers between ages 17 - 25, but tha doesnt mean it needs to be highered it just kills off all the bad drivers
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#26 Fortier
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Its 17 here, and still most fatal accidents are drivers between ages 17 - 25, but tha doesnt mean it needs to be highered it just kills off all the bad driversWhicker89

Hell yeah, natural selection for the win!

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[QUOTE="Whicker89"]Its 17 here, and still most fatal accidents are drivers between ages 17 - 25, but tha doesnt mean it needs to be highered it just kills off all the bad driversFortier

Hell yeah, natural selection for the win!

Yea, I'm gonan have to agree wtih this one too.
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#28 LongShot42
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i think that it shouldnt be changed. if your going to take away the licenses of 16 and 17 year olds you might want to take away old peoples licenses too. they drive worse than teenagers everytime i ride with my grandma i get sick me and my brothers seriously fight everytime just to not have to ride with her.
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#29 branketra
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No, the permit and DL tests need to be harder.
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Lower the drinking age to 16 and raise the driving age to 21.
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#31 British_Azimio
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It's fine. I love it when 16 year olds end up killing themselves while driving drunk or just driving idiotically. It takes away one more idiot from this world.
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#32 raiden509
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no i think soccer moms on cell phones should not be allowed to drive because ive been in lot more near wrecks because of them then teenage drivers
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No, the problem is with those elderly drivers that drive way too slow and those idiots on cell phones.
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The way it is works for me
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I think it's fine. Surely all the idiots will be weededout during tests so only the responsible ones are driving.
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18 sounds about right.
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I also think it should be 18. 17 for a permit, 18 to drive alone.

16 year old drivers are horrible, and they get into more drugs and underage drinking that way. Not that I don't enjoy underage drinking, but I didn't drink until I was 19.

I also agree that high school drivers are too hot-headed, and they try to race and all kinds of immature crap. 16 year old females talk on like 6 cell phones, while texting, and talking to 4 people in their car when they drive... It's pathetic.

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I also think it should be 18. 17 for a permit, 18 to drive alone.

16 year old drivers are horrible, and they get into more drugs and underage drinking that way. Not that I don't enjoy underage drinking, but I didn't drink until I was 19.

I also agree that high school drivers are too hot-headed, and they try to race and all kinds of immature crap. 16 year old females talk on like 6 cell phones, while texting, and talking to 4 people in their car when they drive... It's pathetic.

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Uhh...if you're saying racing is immature... :| Tell that to Micheal Schumacher. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were saying street racing. And I don't really see how going fast on a completely empty street is ...that dangerous. I don't understand that...it's as if people think that the second I go above 80 mph all my tires will explode, my doors will blow off, and my engine will catch fire.
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[QUOTE="TallicaFan2005"]

I also think it should be 18. 17 for a permit, 18 to drive alone.

16 year old drivers are horrible, and they get into more drugs and underage drinking that way. Not that I don't enjoy underage drinking, but I didn't drink until I was 19.

I also agree that high school drivers are too hot-headed, and they try to race and all kinds of immature crap. 16 year old females talk on like 6 cell phones, while texting, and talking to 4 people in their car when they drive... It's pathetic.

ThaStig

Uhh...if you're saying racing is immature... :| Tell that to Micheal Schumacher. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you were saying street racing. And I don't really see how going fast on a completely empty street is ...that dangerous. I don't understand that...it's as if people think that the second I go above 80 mph all my tires will explode, my doors will blow off, and my engine will catch fire.

its not that spontaneous combustion will happen when you hit 80 its that if your stupid enough to street race your probably stupid enough to drive high or drunk and then even if the street is empty chances are your going to hit something like a house, the other person's car, a tree, or someone crossing the street. plus you could have another idiot in the car who thinks its funny to grab the wheel and jerk it around. and even if someone isnt high or drunk they may be stupid enough to crash on an empty street. sorry if that sounds kinda nerdy and seems like"better-than-thou" talk im not trying to do that just making a point.

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hey long shot. im 17 and i drive high all the time, and i usually drive in heavy traffic conditions, and i often drive about 10mph over the speed limit, and with friends in the car, and with my stereo blaring. and i've never had even a close call. so what do you say to that?