Should the two exist, which is more valuable?

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#1 CptJSparrow
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Human life, or sentient mechanical life? Why?
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#2 Dracargen
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If sentient mechanical life exists, it is humans who created it. Therefore, human life is more valuable.

Of course, if we have gotten to the point where humans need machines in order to live, then both are of equal value to each other.

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#3 sovereign_22
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as much as i think important technology is, human life will always be more valuable
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#4 CptJSparrow
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If sentient machanical life exists, it is humans who created it. Therefore, human life is more valuable.

Of course, if we have gotten to the point where humans need machines in order to live, then both are of equal value to each other.

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Would this remain the same if the machines begin to create human life?
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#5 Dracargen
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[QUOTE="Dracargen"]

If sentient machanical life exists, it is humans who created it. Therefore, human life is more valuable.

Of course, if we have gotten to the point where humans need machines in order to live, then both are of equal value to each other.

CptJSparrow

Would this remain the same if the machines begin to create human life?

It would depend on why they were creating human life.

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#6 hokies1313
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Human Life.
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#7 blooddemon666
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The Geth are attacking! :o

But, I'd say that human life would be more valuable than sentient robotic life. Even if, somehow, the machines were more intelligent, and more powerful, and all around better creatures. Humans have our flaws, but we've staked our claim here.

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#8 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

If sentient machanical life exists, it is humans who created it. Therefore, human life is more valuable.

Of course, if we have gotten to the point where humans need machines in order to live, then both are of equal value to each other.

Dracargen

Would this remain the same if the machines begin to create human life?

It would depend on why they were creating human life.

Let us say that the humans created sentient machines in order to learn and the machines created humans for the same reason.
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Out of the love of being a human and not wanting to be a AA battery, I would say human.

More importantly... If humans and sentient machines fought, who would win?

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*Puts on tinfoil hat.*

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#11 blooddemon666
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Out of the love of being a human and not wanting to be a AA battery, I would say human.

More importantly... If humans and sentient machines fought, who would win?

Guiltfeeder566

it depends upon the capabilities of the sentient machines.

As a rule of thumb for the future, we shouldn't make sentient machines more powerful than an average human.

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[QUOTE="Dracargen"][QUOTE="CptJSparrow"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

If sentient machanical life exists, it is humans who created it. Therefore, human life is more valuable.

Of course, if we have gotten to the point where humans need machines in order to live, then both are of equal value to each other.

CptJSparrow

Would this remain the same if the machines begin to create human life?

It would depend on why they were creating human life.

Let us say that the humans created sentient machines in order to learn and the machines created humans for the same reason.

Then it would seem that they were of equal importance, but if one has to be more important than the other, then I think it would come down to a mere "Who was here first" situation.

In which case it would be the humans, who created the machines who created the humans for the evergrowing cycle of knowledge that began when some humans said "Let's make machines for knowledge!"

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#13 CptJSparrow
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Out of the love of being a human and not wanting to be a AA battery, I would say human.

More importantly... If humans and sentient machines fought, who would win?

Guiltfeeder566
Without weapons, I would say machines would win. With weapons, I would say that we are for the most part equally matched and it comes down to chance.
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#14 CptJSparrow
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[QUOTE="Guiltfeeder566"]

Out of the love of being a human and not wanting to be a AA battery, I would say human.

More importantly... If humans and sentient machines fought, who would win?

blooddemon666

it depends upon the capabilities of the sentient machines.

As a rule of thumb for the future, we shouldn't make sentient machines more powerful than an average human.

Oh, that presents us with a totally new predicament: should we simply give them the illusion that they are sentient so that they will be influenced to think in a certain way? -- Then again, we have to wonder if we humans merely believe that we are sentient...
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#15 Cerussite
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Whichever one can successfully wipe out the other.
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#16 blooddemon666
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Oh, that presents us with a totally new predicament: should we simply give them the illusion that they are sentient so that they will be influenced to think in a certain way? -- Then again, we have to wonder if we humans merely believe that we are sentient...CptJSparrow

well, the "sentients" would be made by humans to serve humans (call it slavory or what have you) so there should be some sort of limit to types of thought that the creatures would emulate.

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#17 Shiggums
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I should think Human life is more important, mostly because that's the species I come from.
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#18 Hewkii
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If sentient mechanical life exists, it is humans who created it. Therefore, human life is more valuable.

Dracargen

maybe at first, but not necessarily always.

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I'll be damned if my toaster makes me its slave! *stabs toaster*
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#20 rosesforever89
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Thats easy. Human life of course.
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#21 middito
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Why even ask such a question? im assuming that the sentient mechaniods are manmade, not out of something like Mass Effect.

they're both invaluable in cooperation, but humans should be valued more since they're harder to create?

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#22 Darth_Tyrev
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I think both would be as valuable as the other (as in both are basically worthless).
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#23 blooddemon666
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I'll be damned if my toaster makes me its slave! *stabs toaster*JustPlainLucas

hope that wasn't on >___>

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#24 rinkegekido2110
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From an objective point of view, both are equally valuable as both are forms of life. From where I'm standing, the sentient mechanical life has the advantage of not having time to become the total jerks that is humanity, so they get my vote.