should water be a human right or should it be privatized?

we shouldn't have to pay for water.

sukraj

Who's going to pay for the salaries and equipment of the people purifying, shipping, and storing the water? The water gods?

saying "its a right" is pretty useless since so many don't have the means to get drinkable water

BossPerson

And if it all goes private that will increase dramatically due to the inherent human greed for money, its a sorry state for modern society to be in where human lives are worth less than paper:evil:

I don't see how you can privatize water when it falls right out of the freaking sky once or twice a week.

People would buy their own collectors and filters and just store and conserve it on their own.

It should be a human right. Without it, you cannot survive. It's like air in a sense.Ikouze

It's absolutely nothing like air. Water requires labor and equipment to purify, transport, and store.

I already pay for my water.

Just about all living things require water to survive. Therefore, it should be a basic human right (seriously, you know we're pretty f*cked if humans can't get water, yet other animals can with relative ease).

Water should be controlled by the government, but it shouldn't be a "right".

 

Water should be free only if you earn it.

frannkzappa

I wonder what the criteria for earning water is.

It should definitely be a right.  If I decide to build a house in the country, the government should pay for somebody to come out and dig me a well and hook up all my plumbing for me.

If they don't I should be able to sue them for it.

It should definitely be a right.  If I decide to build a house in the country, the government should pay for somebody to come out and dig me a well and hook up all my plumbing for me.

If they don't I should be able to sue them for it.

Jackc8

Why should the government be obligated to pay to dig your well because you've decided to live too far from existing water lines?

saying "its a right" is pretty useless since so many don't have the means to get drinkable water If the question is: is privatization a better way to give people the means to get water, the answer is: fvck to the no BossPerson

I live right near one of the largest freshwater lakes in the world, so HA!

Since water is necessary for life, water is thus a right (same with food). How that principle should work out juridically is of course up to debate. On the other hand the laborer deserves his wages, and thus companies that refine or purify the water should have a right to profit from doing so, however they cannot let a person thirst to death if the person cannot afford the water.

Water is basically infinite.  There is no reason to privatize it.

GOGOGOGURT

Water is obviously a human right, like air.  

hartsickdiscipl

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Water should be controlled by the government, but it shouldn't be a "right".

Water should be free only if you earn it.

worlock77

I wonder what the criteria for earning water is.

Not water, free water.

everybody will have water availabe so long as they pay taxes.

Free water is an incentive to those who go above and beyond government mandated duties.

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Water should be controlled by the government, but it shouldn't be a "right".

 

Water should be free only if you earn it.

frannkzappa

I wonder what the criteria for earning water is.

Not water, free water.

everybody will have water availabe so long as they pay taxes.

Free water is an incentive to those who go above and beyond government mandated duties.

And you say you want less politics?

Since water is necessary for life, water is thus a right (same with food). How that principle should work out juridically is of course up to debate. On the other hand the laborer deserves his wages, and thus companies that refine or purify the water should have a right to profit from doing so, however they cannot let a person thirst to death if the person cannot afford the water.

whipassmt

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

I wonder what the criteria for earning water is.

worlock77

Not water, free water.

everybody will have water availabe so long as they pay taxes.

Free water is an incentive to those who go above and beyond government mandated duties.

And you say you want less politics?

Under an efficient technocratic system there should be no "politics" involved.

Add an incorrupt meritocracy and things should be simple and smooth.

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

Since water is necessary for life, water is thus a right (same with food). How that principle should work out juridically is of course up to debate. On the other hand the laborer deserves his wages, and thus companies that refine or purify the water should have a right to profit from doing so, however they cannot let a person thirst to death if the person cannot afford the water.

Aljosa23

[QUOTE="worlock77"]

[QUOTE="frannkzappa"]

Not water, free water.

 

everybody will have water availabe so long as they pay taxes.

 

Free water is an incentive to those who go above and beyond government mandated duties.

frannkzappa

And you say you want less politics?

Under an efficient technocratic system there should be no "politics" involved.

Add an incorrupt meritocracy and things should be simple and smooth.

If only the world were so simple...

I don't see how you can privatize water when it falls right out of the freaking sky once or twice a week.

People would buy their own collectors and filters and just store and conserve it on their own.

Netherscourge

Privatizing basic needs of humans will end up as it always does under capitalism. People will be taken for everything they have because they know you cant go without it. If they don't get what they want they will hold water ransom. Its the same with health care in the US "So you need a open heart surgery that will be 250,000$" sure they saved your life but they also destroyed it.

[QUOTE="RushKing"]

Why do so many people ignore the fact that the private sector depends on state violence to stay afloat?

airshocker

I'm calling the waaahmbulance for you right now. Just relax.

Privatizing basic needs of humans will end up as it always does under capitalism. People will be taken for everything they have because they know you cant go without it. If they don't get what they want they will hold water ransom. Its the same with health care in the US "So you need a open heart surgery that will be 250,000$" sure they saved your life but they also destroyed it.

osirisx3

The worst kind of troll.

Privatizing basic needs of humans will end up as it always does under capitalism. People will be taken for everything they have because they know you cant go without it. If they don't get what they want they will hold water ransom. Its the same with health care in the US "So you need a open heart surgery that will be 250,000$" sure they saved your life but they also destroyed it.

osirisx3

Water is basically infinite.  There is no reason to privatize it.

Water is basically infinite.  There is no reason to privatize it.

GOGOGOGURT

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

Privatizing basic needs of humans will end up as it always does under capitalism. People will be taken for everything they have because they know you cant go without it. If they don't get what they want they will hold water ransom. Its the same with health care in the US "So you need a open heart surgery that will be 250,000$" sure they saved your life but they also destroyed it.

whipassmt

there has never been a nation that has reached communism

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

Privatizing basic needs of humans will end up as it always does under capitalism. People will be taken for everything they have because they know you cant go without it. If they don't get what they want they will hold water ransom. Its the same with health care in the US "So you need a open heart surgery that will be 250,000$" sure they saved your life but they also destroyed it.

frannkzappa

The worst kind of troll.

the worst kind of rebuttal just personal attacks.

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

Privatizing basic needs of humans will end up as it always does under capitalism. People will be taken for everything they have because they know you cant go without it. If they don't get what they want they will hold water ransom. Its the same with health care in the US "So you need a open heart surgery that will be 250,000$" sure they saved your life but they also destroyed it.

osirisx3

there has never been a nation that has reached communism

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

[QUOTE="whipassmt"] And what happens under communism?

whipassmt

there has never been a nation that has reached communism

funny thing is you are playing a fantasy right now. All that money in your pocket is all imaginary, It has no value at all but you pretend it does like everyone else.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

Water is basically infinite.  There is no reason to privatize it.

DroidPhysX

For or purposes it might as well be infinite.

You know the water from your faucet is dinosaur pee?  Water is not wasted on earth, it is recycled.  Short of boiling away all the water on earth, we will never run out.

Water is basically infinite.  There is no reason to privatize it.

GOGOGOGURT

Just about all living things require water to survive. Therefore, it should be a basic human right (seriously, you know we're pretty f*cked if humans can't get water, yet other animals can with relative ease).

Celldrax

Nothing is stopping you from getting water like other animals do. Go drink from a river or a puddle. You're not paying for the water, you're paying for the services required to collect it, purify it, store it and distribute it right to your tap.

[QUOTE="Celldrax"]

Just about all living things require water to survive. Therefore, it should be a basic human right (seriously, you know we're pretty f*cked if humans can't get water, yet other animals can with relative ease).

nunovlopes

Nothing is stopping you from getting water like other animals do. Go drink from a river or a puddle. You're not paying for the water, you're paying for the services required to collect it, purify it, store it and distribute it right to your tap.

whats stopping people is all the toxic waste cooperations dump into most rivers and lakes in the world and laws saying we cant take a bath in them.

[QUOTE="nunovlopes"]

[QUOTE="Celldrax"]

Just about all living things require water to survive. Therefore, it should be a basic human right (seriously, you know we're pretty f*cked if humans can't get water, yet other animals can with relative ease).

osirisx3

Nothing is stopping you from getting water like other animals do. Go drink from a river or a puddle. You're not paying for the water, you're paying for the services required to collect it, purify it, store it and distribute it right to your tap.

whats stopping people is all the toxic waste cooperations dump into most rivers and lakes in the world and laws saying we cant take a bath in them.

[QUOTE="whipassmt"]

[QUOTE="osirisx3"]

there has never been a nation that has reached communism

osirisx3

funny thing is you are playing a fantasy right now. All that money in your pocket is all imaginary, It has no value at all but you pretend it does like everyone else.