should we use death row/lifer prisoners as test subjects or gladiators.

I honestly think some of them would agree just to have something to do. We could also use them as test subjects, but we might mess up and give them chemicals that give them superpowers. But if we could control them they would become superpowered gladiators. Imagine that sitting down and turning on VS network to see Dutch"the butcher"Mason a former butcher who murdered his wife and ate her, fighting Father Jake"the snake" a former priest who molested a young boy and strangled him. Weapons would be scattered around the arena. Dutch grabs his signature butcher knife, while Jake tries to execute his famous pulpit strangle.

The butcher slices his hand off, and the priest bolts for a pistol. Its hard to aim with one hand, and the guns would have limited low caliber ammo. He gets one shot between Jacks eyes. But thanks to lab experiments by his sponsors Microsoft his skull is bullet proof. He chuckes his knife at Father Jakes chest but its stopped by the Bible under his shirt. They scrap for a few minutes until Jake bites the butcher on neck(becaus of dental testing that coldgate did on his teeth they are harder then diamonds). The Butchers head comes flying off, and the paster gets his prize.... a bag of M&Ms and a dull rusty hook for his hand.

That would be a great way to

I honestly think some of them would agree just to have something to do. We could also use them as test subjects, but we might mess up and give them chemicals that give them superpowers. Mercenary848

No. But all prisoners should be used as cheap, hard labour. We have the technology these days to keep them in control and use them for things like 24-hour road construction or other harsh forms of labour that normal citizens wouldn't want to do. They are in prison to pay back their victims and society... they should be working for society.

make it like the film battle royale then i will talk that would be awesome especially with some nutters you get now.

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]I honestly think some of them would agree just to have something to do. We could also use them as test subjects, but we might mess up and give them chemicals that give them superpowers. super_mario_128

You never know what could happen.

I'm sorry, I've seemed to have accidently taken the wrong time portal to Nazi Germany.......

No we shouldn't use Death Row people as test subjects, hell there should be no Death Row, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

Yeah, no. We've kinda progressed beyond such cruel and unusual punishment.

superpowers? i dont think so lol. but this is not rome and we wont see anything like gladiators anytime soon

Yeah, no. We've kinda progressed beyond such cruel and unusual punishment.

Theokhoth

I honestly think some of them would agree just to have something to do. We could also use them as test subjects, but we might mess up and give them chemicals that give them superpowers. But if we could control them they would become superpowered gladiators. Imagine that sitting down and turning on VS network to see Dutch"the butcher"Mason a former butcher who murdered his wife and ate her, fighting Father Jake"the snake" a former priest who molested a young boy and strangled him. Weapons would be sattered around the arena. Dutch grabs his signature butcher knife, while Jake tries to execute his famous pulpit strangle.

The butcher slices his hand off, and the priest bolts for a pistol. Its hard to aim with one hand, and the guns would have limited low caliber ammo. He gets one shot between Jacks eyes. But thinks to lab experiments by his sponsors Microsoft his skull is bullet proof. He chuckes his knife at Father Jakes chest but its stopped by the Bible under his shirt. They scrap for a few minutes until Jake bites the butcher on neck(becaus of dental testing that coldgate did on his teeth they are harder then diamonds). The Butchers head comes flying off, and the paster gets his prize.... a bag of M&Ms and a dull rusty hook for his hand.

That would be a great way to

Mercenary848

No. But all prisoners should be used as cheap, hard labour. We have the technology these days to keep them in control and use them for things like 24-hour road construction or other harsh forms of labour that normal citizens wouldn't want to do. They are in prison to pay back their victims and society... they should be working for society.

foxhound_fox

Most of those jobs need skilled workers, not anyone can build a house. I would be better to give that money to hard working citizens who know what they are doing.

no, we're not barbaric..and test subjects? that's why we have mice, these people did something, they got their punishment, and have to wait out their lives on deathrow...that' s enough, their still humans too..

Hmm, superpowered gladiators...I do like the sound of that.

[QUOTE="Theokhoth"]

Yeah, no. We've kinda progressed beyond such cruel and unusual punishment.

Vandalvideo

Shh. We'll get there eventually.

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

I honestly think some of them would agree just to have something to do. We could also use them as test subjects, but we might mess up and give them chemicals that give them superpowers. But if we could control them they would become superpowered gladiators. Imagine that sitting down and turning on VS network to see Dutch"the butcher"Mason a former butcher who murdered his wife and ate her, fighting Father Jake"the snake" a former priest who molested a young boy and strangled him. Weapons would be sattered around the arena. Dutch grabs his signature butcher knife, while Jake tries to execute his famous pulpit strangle.

The butcher slices his hand off, and the priest bolts for a pistol. Its hard to aim with one hand, and the guns would have limited low caliber ammo. He gets one shot between Jacks eyes. But thinks to lab experiments by his sponsors Microsoft his skull is bullet proof. He chuckes his knife at Father Jakes chest but its stopped by the Bible under his shirt. They scrap for a few minutes until Jake bites the butcher on neck(becaus of dental testing that coldgate did on his teeth they are harder then diamonds). The Butchers head comes flying off, and the paster gets his prize.... a bag of M&Ms and a dull rusty hook for his hand.

That would be a great way to

MetallicaKings

If it will help me redem myself I was only 65% serious.

[QUOTE="MetallicaKings"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

I honestly think some of them would agree just to have something to do. We could also use them as test subjects, but we might mess up and give them chemicals that give them superpowers. But if we could control them they would become superpowered gladiators. Imagine that sitting down and turning on VS network to see Dutch"the butcher"Mason a former butcher who murdered his wife and ate her, fighting Father Jake"the snake" a former priest who molested a young boy and strangled him. Weapons would be sattered around the arena. Dutch grabs his signature butcher knife, while Jake tries to execute his famous pulpit strangle.

The butcher slices his hand off, and the priest bolts for a pistol. Its hard to aim with one hand, and the guns would have limited low caliber ammo. He gets one shot between Jacks eyes. But thinks to lab experiments by his sponsors Microsoft his skull is bullet proof. He chuckes his knife at Father Jakes chest but its stopped by the Bible under his shirt. They scrap for a few minutes until Jake bites the butcher on neck(becaus of dental testing that coldgate did on his teeth they are harder then diamonds). The Butchers head comes flying off, and the paster gets his prize.... a bag of M&Ms and a dull rusty hook for his hand.

That would be a great way to

Mercenary848

If it will help me redem myself I was only 65% serious.

Serious, or Serious-Not there is no 65% Serious. So nope, too late. :P

Hmm, superpowered gladiators...I do like the sound of that.

-Sun_Tzu-

Someone sees it my way.

Depends on the tests... if they are allready concluded to be harmless, then I would not care.

They should have the option of vulanterring for medical tests tho, in exchange of upping thier livingconditions in jail, but I think they should have the choice. (these tests would not be in the "harmless" category tho.

I would NOT have them fight for others amuzement... that thought is cruel by default, and sort of disturbing.

The less dangerous prisoners should also be used as laber where it is needed in society (ditchdigging, trashcollectiong and so on). the dangerous ones I wouldnever let out of maximum security. So lifers are out.

[QUOTE="MetallicaKings"][QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

I honestly think some of them would agree just to have something to do. We could also use them as test subjects, but we might mess up and give them chemicals that give them superpowers. But if we could control them they would become superpowered gladiators. Imagine that sitting down and turning on VS network to see Dutch"the butcher"Mason a former butcher who murdered his wife and ate her, fighting Father Jake"the snake" a former priest who molested a young boy and strangled him. Weapons would be sattered around the arena. Dutch grabs his signature butcher knife, while Jake tries to execute his famous pulpit strangle.

The butcher slices his hand off, and the priest bolts for a pistol. Its hard to aim with one hand, and the guns would have limited low caliber ammo. He gets one shot between Jacks eyes. But thinks to lab experiments by his sponsors Microsoft his skull is bullet proof. He chuckes his knife at Father Jakes chest but its stopped by the Bible under his shirt. They scrap for a few minutes until Jake bites the butcher on neck(becaus of dental testing that coldgate did on his teeth they are harder then diamonds). The Butchers head comes flying off, and the paster gets his prize.... a bag of M&Ms and a dull rusty hook for his hand.

That would be a great way to

Mercenary848

If it will help me redem myself I was only 65% serious.

Hmm, superpowered gladiators...I do like the sound of that.

-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]

[QUOTE="MetallicaKings"] mercenary848, you have 4020 posts. I wouldn't have thought you would stoop to this level. I thought more of youMetallicaKings

If it will help me redem myself I was only 65% serious.

You also like the show Oz.

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"]

Hmm, superpowered gladiators...I do like the sound of that.

nocoolnamejim

I doubt they would pose that much of a threat.

Personally I think we should just shoot them instead of wasting money using lethal injection. Saves tax payers money and I don't think they deserve to die a painless death.

We are well past the bloodthirsty Romans. Using them for gladiators is uncivilized.

Nah, I'd rather we keep them locked up instead of turning them into guinea pigs. Kinda devalues human life if we start doing that, and as a society that values it, I hate to think what we'd become if we begin to lower our morals just a tad.

Most of those jobs need skilled workers, not anyone can build a house. I would be better to give that money to hard working citizens who know what they are doing.Mercenary848

No. But all prisoners should be used as cheap, hard labour. We have the technology these days to keep them in control and use them for things like 24-hour road construction or other harsh forms of labour that normal citizens wouldn't want to do. They are in prison to pay back their victims and society... they should be working for society.

foxhound_fox

With the recession anyone is willing to do anything for money including hard labor. Allowing criminals to work for cheap wages will deter normal people from getting jobs as companys will obviously hire the cheapest labor.

[QUOTE="Mercenary848"]Most of those jobs need skilled workers, not anyone can build a house. I would be better to give that money to hard working citizens who know what they are doing.foxhound_fox

I see what you saying, that work could toughen them up for the arena also. Good idea

ermmm...no. For one it's just wrong for two there are innocent people that will get off death row and we can't use them as test subjects or gladiators

With the recession anyone is willing to do anything for money including hard labor. Allowing criminals to work for cheap wages will deter normal people from getting jobs as companys will obviously hire the cheapest labor.Gamerz1569

With the recession anyone is willing to do anything for money including hard labor. Allowing criminals to work for cheap wages will deter normal people from getting jobs as companys will obviously hire the cheapest labor.

Gamerz1569

[QUOTE="Gamerz1569"]With the recession anyone is willing to do anything for money including hard labor. Allowing criminals to work for cheap wages will deter normal people from getting jobs as companys will obviously hire the cheapest labor.Vandalvideo

Which they most likely will. Like I said MILLIONS are jobless because of the recession, human being will do ANYTHING to get money and that includes hard labor or anything which normal people wouldn't normally do under normal conditions (non-recession). Again as I've said criminals will most likely be paid very little/or not at all and companys will most likely hire the cheapest labor to save on management costs.

:o did I just go back in time to ancient rome!?!cousin_eddy

I wish...

I wouldn't mind seeing criminal scum for gladiator battles in an arena.

Throw in some animals as well, like a some dude riding an ass with a lance in his hand or something.

Which they most likely will. Like I said MILLIONS are jobless because of the recession, human being will do ANYTHING to get money and that includes hard labor or anything which normal people wouldn't normally do under normal conditions (non-recession). Again as I've said criminals will most likely be paid very little/or not at all and companys will most likely hire the cheapest labor to save on management costs.Gamerz1569

Turning prisoners into gladiators to fight for our amusement...hm..sounds pretty barbaric and inhumane to me.

I'm sorry, I've seemed to have accidently taken the wrong time portal to Nazi Germany.......

No we shouldn't use Death Row people as test subjects, hell there should be no Death Row, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

DarkGamer007

Most overused, overrated quote ever.

:o did I just go back in time to ancient rome!?!cousin_eddy

Think of it as modern Rome. Two guys fighting to the death with Iron Maiden playing in the background. Then thr beautiful women come out and and carry off the body with miles davis Freddie Freeloader playing.

No, you don't pay them anything. They are in prison to repay a debt to society.

Another possibility could be that you don't hire staff for a prison and make the prisoners do all the work for themselves. Do prisoners even do laundry and cook meals anymore?

foxhound_fox

Not hire staff for the thousands of prisons around the world? Great thousands more jobless. Its not like prisoners are well fed and they get a change of clothes everyday. Besides they are locked up in a cage like animals for life and no chance of parole (for serious crimes) isn't that enough? I mean if I were the victim I would much rather see them locked up in a cage than "working".

No. But all prisoners should be used as cheap, hard labour. We have the technology these days to keep them in control and use them for things like 24-hour road construction or other harsh forms of labour that normal citizens wouldn't want to do. They are in prison to pay back their victims and society... they should be working for society.

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="cousin_eddy"]:o did I just go back in time to ancient rome!?!tzar3

I wish...

I wouldn't mind seeing criminal scum for gladiator battles in an arena.

Throw in some animals as well, like a some dude riding an ass with a lance in his hand or something.

Yes one guy against 3 Pitbulls, but then the animals would have to be treated cruely to make them fight. animal cruelty ain't right.

[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

I'm sorry, I've seemed to have accidently taken the wrong time portal to Nazi Germany.......

No we shouldn't use Death Row people as test subjects, hell there should be no Death Row, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

phillo99

Most overused, overrated quote ever.

Not really, it is hypocritical to say "Killing is wrong, so we are going to kill you."

I just really want you to show how you're establishing that jailees will be competing for the same jobs. I mean, what evidence have you that normal employers would even be willing to hire ex-cons?Vandalvideo

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[QUOTE="DarkGamer007"]

I'm sorry, I've seemed to have accidently taken the wrong time portal to Nazi Germany.......

No we shouldn't use Death Row people as test subjects, hell there should be no Death Row, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

DarkGamer007

Most overused, overrated quote ever.

Not really, it is hypocritical to say "Killing is wrong, so we are going to kill you."

More like: You have infringed on the right to life of others, so yours is revoked.

But were not in normal conditions right now are we? Its recession far from normal, companys are laying-off employees and are still struggling to pay off the remaining employees and still turn up a profit. So if a new cheap source of labor appears (prisoners) wouldn't it be logical to hire them to save on management costs? and to answer your question,no I don't have any evidence, this is all speculation on my part since it was suggested that prisoners be used as cheap labor it would be logical to assume that they would be competing with normal people.Gamerz1569

gladiators for the entertainment:)