fantastic film, gripping from start to finish. I actually love it more than Scorsese's other so-called classics.
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fantastic film, gripping from start to finish. I actually love it more than Scorsese's other so-called classics.
I just finished watching the film.
[spoiler] There is enough evidence to support that he is insane and sane. However, I preffer to think that he was Insane all along because it adds much more meaning to the last line. He realises what he did and he can't cope so he wants to die as Teddy rather than Andrew, also that way the movie isn't a conspiracy movie where the bad guys win. [/spoiler]
Overall the movie is a 7/10. Very Intresting movie, reminds me of the machinist.
I thought it was a fantastic movie. I didn't fully appreciate it though until after I saw it and contemplated some of the scenes.
saw it opening day in Baltimore when my flight to Florida was delayed...anyway i'd give it a 7/10. it's worth watching once, but it's not worth owning. plot was predictable, and the movie itself wasn't what i wanted it to be or expected. like i said it deserves a 7 / 10.
I know! The movie is very much open for interpretation all the way to the end.By the way...I like how a whole bunch of people talka bout the "twist" as if it had any true bearing on the film. There's no true and definite answer to what really happened during the story and the people that think toherwise did not examine it well.
Vennligsinnet
By the way...I like how a whole bunch of people talka bout the "twist" as if it had any true bearing on the film. There's no true and definite answer to what really happened during the story and the people that think toherwise did not examine it well.
Vennligsinnet
How exactly is it open for interpretation. Lets examine:
The bullets fired at baldie, hit, drew blood and disappeared, this alone should invalidate any point of mental stability, for if he was stable in any way there would be no visual of impact. Lets look at the conversations that the characters held, with the warden, the lady in the cliff and the inmate. These conversations clearly have incredibly heavy handed subtext which makes sense once the twist comes along.
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But theres more. Leo, as you claim, a potentially stable man, sees his friend at the bottom of a cliff. He climbs down, risks his life, and the friend is gone. He doesnt think to much of this and goes to a cave where he sees a light. There is a lady, happenstance and all, and instead of talking about, well a potentially dead friend, noo, they start babbling about conspiracies and politics.
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Theres still more. Leo clearly has nightmares about his dead wife in the beginning of a movie which are then explained by him coming him to his dead kids. This is cut and dry, cause and effect. Assuming otherwise is the equivalent of looking for literary symbols in books that clearly were not intended by the author. Leo is crazy, the bullets, the wife, the conversations, the setting all underline this again and again and again. Its not a question of examining something, rather a question of accepting the simplicity of a movie...
Wait so you guys that saw the movie and not read the book are telling me that you knew [spoiler] that Leo WAS, not going to be, the 67th patient and that this entire thing was a set up? [/spoiler]
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By the way...I like how a whole bunch of people talka bout the "twist" as if it had any true bearing on the film. There's no true and definite answer to what really happened during the story and the people that think toherwise did not examine it well.
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How exactly is it open for interpretation. Lets examine:
The bullets fired at baldie, hit, drew blood and disappeared, this alone should invalidate any point of mental stability, for if he was stable in any way there would be no visual of impact. Lets look at the conversations that the characters held, with the warden, the lady in the cliff and the inmate. These conversations clearly have incredibly heavy handed subtext which makes sense once the twist comes along.
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But theres more. Leo, as you claim, a potentially stable man, sees his friend at the bottom of a cliff. He climbs down, risks his life, and the friend is gone. He doesnt think to much of this and goes to a cave where he sees a light. There is a lady, happenstance and all, and instead of talking about, well a potentially dead friend, noo, they start babbling about conspiracies and politics.
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Theres still more. Leo clearly has nightmares about his dead wife in the beginning of a movie which are then explained by him coming him to his dead kids. This is cut and dry, cause and effect. Assuming otherwise is the equivalent of looking for literary symbols in books that clearly were not intended by the author. Leo is crazy, the bullets, the wife, the conversations, the setting all underline this again and again and again. Its not a question of examining something, rather a question of accepting the simplicity of a movie...
That would be all well and good except that you're disregarding that they kept feeding him pills, pills that could have easily been some sort of hallucinogenic that makes or convinces the person they're crazy. The woman in the cave talked about it, the "rat in a maze" guy vaguely referenced it, and more inmates still hinted at the fact that something was going on. He could have be sane or completely insane, either way is completely plausible and to say otherwise is ignorant.Please Log In to post.
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