Silly Athiests

about 45% of Americans believe that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so."james28893

Well, you're entitled to think what you want. That's why America is great.

Rhythmic_

i dont know whats worse - in the US athiests trying to spoil xmas (here i dont know a single athiest who doesnt still celebrate, its as much a part of culture as it is religion)

or in Britain the stupid pc brigade who try to spoil xmas cos it might offend someone elses religion (but yet whenever asked person "x" of religion "x" always says couldnt give a toss)

[QUOTE="Rhythmic_"]

Well, you're entitled to think what you want. That's why America is great.

KiIIyou

Yes.

I have no time for Athiests so I will say no more on the matter. They don't like me and I don't like them.

ND_

I don't care about religion or non-religion. If someone gets the joy of his life by believing in god, then I'm happy for them that they find that joy. If someone doesn't want to believe in god, fine too. What bothers me is that some relgious people think they can tell me what to do and what is right or wrong while I don't share their opinion. I'm not going to tell a religious person he should do or think as I think is good for him, because I know I would hurt him that way. And I don't want to hurt people. So I think everybody should do and think as he/she pleases, within the boundaries of law. My opinion is also that laws of a country shouldn't be based on a religion (because there are too many religions and also people who don't believe at all). When they make general rules for everybody I'm sure they will overlap with all religious and non-religious people. In the end, everyone wants the same, only the path is a little different.TheFlush

[QUOTE="KiIIyou"][QUOTE="Rhythmic_"]

Well, you're entitled to think what you want. That's why America is great.

Rhythmic_

Yes.

[QUOTE="Rhythmic_"][QUOTE="KiIIyou"][QUOTE="Rhythmic_"]

Well, you're entitled to think what you want. That's why America is great.

KiIIyou

Yes.

And not only that...I get to decide which part of it is great, because I am the law.

And not only that...I get to decide which part of it is great, because I am the law.

Rhythmic_

i dont know whats worse - in the US athiests trying to spoil xmas (here i dont know a single athiest who doesnt still celebrate, its as much a part of culture as it is religion)villa4europe

It's not bad, it's just some radical atheists giving us a bad name. Anyways, I celebrate Christmas because my family does (even though they're religious), but we don't go around saying it's about the birth of Jesus and whatnot. And, anyways, Christmas was a pagan holiday that the Christians decided to base Christmas around it, because it was a well-celebrated day AFAIK.

[QUOTE="villa4europe"]i dont know whats worse - in the US athiests trying to spoil xmas (here i dont know a single athiest who doesnt still celebrate, its as much a part of culture as it is religion)gasmaskman

It's not bad, it's just some radical atheists giving us a bad name. Anyways, I celebrate Christmas because my family does (even though they're religious), but we don't go around saying it's about the birth of Jesus and whatnot. And, anyways, Christmas was a pagan holiday that the Christians decided to base Christmas around it, because it was a well-celebrated day AFAIK.

Oh, and if I remember right, Christmas isn't actually the celebration of Christ's birthday, just a celebration of Christ that is characterized by a mass, AFAIK. it's only on December 25th because of the incorporation of .... 3 calendars. The Roman, Pagan and another calendar.

That actually sounds...kind of cool. I want a tree made out of books.

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[QUOTE="wemhim"]I find it funny that so many people insult my belief(Atheism), yet when they do, I still protect their religion and respect it 100%, I'm such a bad guy right? Oh wait, who's the one protecting the others belief? Me. That's not to say I wasn't an arse in the past, I was. But now, I totally respect it, and still everyone has to insult my belief, oh well, I'll continue to respect and protect there's from bigots. If you don't like Atheists who insult religion, why stoop down to their INDIVIDUAL levels and insult an entire belief? You don't see me insulting all Christians because some are arses, instead, I realize that there are also much better ones...wemhim

I didn't say all atheists, did I?:|

[QUOTE="wemhim"][QUOTE="Dracargen"]

[QUOTE="wemhim"]I find it funny that so many people insult my belief(Atheism), yet when they do, I still protect their religion and respect it 100%, I'm such a bad guy right? Oh wait, who's the one protecting the others belief? Me. That's not to say I wasn't an arse in the past, I was. But now, I totally respect it, and still everyone has to insult my belief, oh well, I'll continue to respect and protect there's from bigots. If you don't like Atheists who insult religion, why stoop down to their INDIVIDUAL levels and insult an entire belief? You don't see me insulting all Christians because some are arses, instead, I realize that there are also much better ones...CptJSparrow

I didn't say all atheists, did I?:|

Sucks to be atheist I guess....no presents at christmassflowdee79

[QUOTE="flowdee79"]Sucks to be atheist I guess....no presents at christmassBourbons3

I get ALL the presents.

i don't know why some atheists bash religious people (unless the religious bash them)

If someone wants to lead a moral, dedicated life, regardless of why, let him.

Makes a better world

i don't know why some atheists bash religious people (unless the religious bash them)

If someone wants to lead a moral, dedicated life, regardless of why, let him.

Makes a better world

Sniper_Wolf25

While I don't agree with that reasoning, I too simply can not understand why some people feel it necessary to talk down to others for their beliefs, especially in regards to something that is not yet explainable in the first place.

Atheists add holiday tree to courthouse lawn. "The Tree of Knowledge" is decorated with book covers, including the Holy Bible and the Quran. WTF? Check it.
RiSkyBiZ-13

you're smarts!

Sucks to be atheist I guess....no presents at christmassflowdee79

Alas you are right, whatever will i do without overpriced gifts that go down in price the day after, and then i go out and get all the gifts for everyone and they getmore gifts for me and we save bundles... oh the sorrow.

[QUOTE="Sniper_Wolf25"]

i don't know why some atheists bash religious people (unless the religious bash them)

If someone wants to lead a moral, dedicated life, regardless of why, let him.

Makes a better world

Fortier

While I don't agree with that reasoning, I too simply can not understand why some people feel it necessary to talk down to others for their beliefs, especially in regards to something that is not yet explainable in the first place.

If they weren't so stubborn and willing to leave atheists alone, then there wouldn't be bashing. You tend to get some pissed-off Atheists.

Anyways, Christmas was picked around the year 350AD because it was around the time people usually celebrated, which was like how it was before, so it was an easy transition. Almost everything surrounding Christmas, from the tree to the gifts, is all taken from other religions and belief systems.

[QUOTE="Fortier"][QUOTE="Sniper_Wolf25"]

i don't know why some atheists bash religious people (unless the religious bash them)

If someone wants to lead a moral, dedicated life, regardless of why, let him.

Makes a better world

gasmaskman

While I don't agree with that reasoning, I too simply can not understand why some people feel it necessary to talk down to others for their beliefs, especially in regards to something that is not yet explainable in the first place.

If they weren't so stubborn and willing to leave atheists alone, then there wouldn't be bashing. You tend to get some pissed-off Atheists.

That works for both sides. I've seen ignorant atheists and ignorant theists. It's just that usually, I notice that the first disrespectful comment usually comes from an atheist.

[QUOTE="villa4europe"]i dont know whats worse - in the US athiests trying to spoil xmas (here i dont know a single athiest who doesnt still celebrate, its as much a part of culture as it is religion)gasmaskman

It's not bad, it's just some radical atheists giving us a bad name. Anyways, I celebrate Christmas because my family does (even though they're religious), but we don't go around saying it's about the birth of Jesus and whatnot. And, anyways, Christmas was a pagan holiday that the Christians decided to base Christmas around it, because it was a well-celebrated day AFAIK.

Some of the celebrations appear to be Pagan-related, but the Bible never talks about Christmas as we commonly celebrate it today, so the Bible itself does not borrow from Paganism. However, the concept of giving presents on Christmas derive from the 3 wise men giving gifts to Jesus. So yes, Atheists who recieve Christmas presents are benefitting from it. I have no problems with Atheists giving and recieving presents, but I dislike the concept of Santa Clause, because Christmas should emphasise Jesus, not some man in a red suit from the North Pole.

[QUOTE="gasmaskman"][QUOTE="Fortier"][QUOTE="Sniper_Wolf25"]

i don't know why some atheists bash religious people (unless the religious bash them)

If someone wants to lead a moral, dedicated life, regardless of why, let him.

Makes a better world

Fortier

While I don't agree with that reasoning, I too simply can not understand why some people feel it necessary to talk down to others for their beliefs, especially in regards to something that is not yet explainable in the first place.

If they weren't so stubborn and willing to leave atheists alone, then there wouldn't be bashing. You tend to get some pissed-off Atheists.

That works for both sides. I've seen ignorant atheists and ignorant theists. It's just that usually, I notice that the first disrespectful comment usually comes from an atheist.

[QUOTE="gasmaskman"]

[QUOTE="villa4europe"]i dont know whats worse - in the US athiests trying to spoil xmas (here i dont know a single athiest who doesnt still celebrate, its as much a part of culture as it is religion)PandaBear86

It's not bad, it's just some radical atheists giving us a bad name. Anyways, I celebrate Christmas because my family does (even though they're religious), but we don't go around saying it's about the birth of Jesus and whatnot. And, anyways, Christmas was a pagan holiday that the Christians decided to base Christmas around it, because it was a well-celebrated day AFAIK.

Some of the celebrations appear to be Pagan-related, but the Bible never talks about Christmas as we commonly celebrate it today, so the Bible itself does not borrow from Paganism. However, the concept of giving presents on Christmas derive from the 3 wise men giving gifts to Jesus. So yes, Atheists who recieve Christmas presents are benefitting from it. I have no problems with Atheists giving and recieving presents, but I dislike the concept of Santa Clause, because Christmas should emphasise Jesus, not some man in a red suit from the North Pole.

QFT

appeal to ridicule

tsk tsk tsk, how typical

Atheists add holiday tree to courthouse lawn. "The Tree of Knowledge" is decorated with book covers, including the Holy Bible and the Quran. WTF? Check it.
RiSkyBiZ-13

i think what everyone is misjudging here is the fact that just because you are religious doesn't mean you are a good person, and similarily just because you are atheist doesn't mean you are a bad person.


As a outspoken atheist, I spread my knowledge to everyone I can, this is no different than your Priests or your Travelling Sisters whom preach their message to other. You can't have a double standard, if you can spread your message of god, than i can spread my message of understanding and truth.

Now, to further explain to those of the religious crowd to as to why some atheists feel it is their duty to bring people to the light, it is not because we want you to join us. Neither is it because we want to make everyone believe the same as us. It is because we want you to understand the truth of the matter.

Now before you take this message wrongly, you must understand that I do not force my beliefs upon anyone, and I do not try to 'convert' every religious person I meet. Those of you that are confused and are being taken advantage of by the religious institutions are those that the we would concern ourselves with enlightening.

Now some of you would think I am facist against Theists and the Religious alike, but you would be wrong. I respect those with a MATURE faith, but I cannot bring myself to respect those who do not respect themselves, aka IMMATURE faith.

What is immature faith? Immature faith are those people who believe because of ignorant reasons, or fail-safes. Example, a child goes to church and says he believes in god because if he doesn't he will go to hell... This is just fear of something that has been pressed upon societies for millienias, it is still in use today *cough* Terrorism *cough*

I hope this helps you religious people to better understand the Atheist motive, we do not want to rule the world, neither do we want assimilation, we just want understanding and less ignorance.

i think what everyone is misjudging here is the fact that just because you are religious doesn't mean you are a good person, and similarily just because you are atheist doesn't mean you are a bad person.


As a outspoken atheist, I spread my knowledge to everyone I can, this is no different than your Priests or your Travelling Sisters whom preach their message to other. You can't have a double standard, if you can spread your message of god, than i can spread my message of understanding and truth.

Now, to further explain to those of the religious crowd to as to why some atheists feel it is their duty to bring people to the light, it is not because we want you to join us. Neither is it because we want to make everyone believe the same as us. It is because we want you to understand the truth of the matter.

Now before you take this message wrongly, you must understand that I do not force my beliefs upon anyone, and I do not try to 'convert' every religious person I meet. Those of you that are confused and are being taken advantage of by the religious institutions are those that the we would concern ourselves with enlightening.

Now some of you would think I am facist against Theists and the Religious alike, but you would be wrong. I respect those with a MATURE faith, but I cannot bring myself to respect those who do not respect themselves, aka IMMATURE faith.

What is immature faith? Immature faith are those people who believe because of ignorant reasons, or fail-safes. Example, a child goes to church and says he believes in god because if he doesn't he will go to hell... This is just fear of something that has been pressed upon societies for millienias, it is still in use today *cough* Terrorism *cough*

I hope this helps you religious people to better understand the Atheist motive, we do not want to rule the world, neither do we want assimilation, we just want understanding and less ignorance.

Rifkin-

But its your truth. So you're saying I can spread my truth to you with no fear of being ridiculed? Because every Atheist I try to witness to is usually a jerk to me. (There are exceptions)

its your truth. So you're saying I can spread my truth to you with no fear of being ridiculed? Because every Atheist I try to witness to is usually a jerk to me. (There are exceptions)battlefront23

Sure, I have no problem with the good message, the Golden Rule still stands to be the most important in my life as well. I try never to be a 'jerk' to anyone, religious beliefs have nothing to do with the fact that we are all humans, and should be treated equally and justly. I just don't appreciate those fanatics that feel it is their duty to save me from 'eternal damnation'

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]its your truth. So you're saying I can spread my truth to you with no fear of being ridiculed? Because every Atheist I try to witness to is usually a jerk to me. (There are exceptions)Rifkin-

Sure, I have no problem with the good message, the Golden Rule still stands to be the most important in my life as well. I try never to be a 'jerk' to anyone, religious beliefs have nothing to do with the fact that we are all humans, and should be treated equally and justly. I just don't appreciate those fanatics that feel it is their duty to save me from 'eternal damnation'

But you do realize were different from JW's or Mormons or even Muslims because we do that, not because we have to, but because we want to? (your last statement)

[QUOTE="Rifkin-"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]its your truth. So you're saying I can spread my truth to you with no fear of being ridiculed? Because every Atheist I try to witness to is usually a jerk to me. (There are exceptions)battlefront23

Sure, I have no problem with the good message, the Golden Rule still stands to be the most important in my life as well. I try never to be a 'jerk' to anyone, religious beliefs have nothing to do with the fact that we are all humans, and should be treated equally and justly. I just don't appreciate those fanatics that feel it is their duty to save me from 'eternal damnation'

But you do realize were different from JW's or Mormons or even Muslims because we do that, not because we have to, but because we want to? (your last statement)

But you do realize were different from JW's or Mormons or even Muslims because we do that, not because we have to, but because we want to? (your last statement)battlefront23

No offense, but it seems like you don't know very much about the faith of Islam or Mormons or Johhavas Witnesses.. None of them require your mandatory servitude, this is all just fanatical precepts which is evident in all faiths, even Christianity.

Silly atheist, trees are for Christians!

:?

ParasiteDemon

Lmfao

If trees are for christians, all trees must burn...