LAS VEGAS - President Barack Obama has a Sin City problem that won't go away. Nevada state officials and residents alike are still fuming nearly two years after Obama discouraged corporations that received bailout money from holding lavish meetings in Las Vegas. Then last year, Obama said Americans saving for college shouldn't blow the cash in Sin City. State officials and residents in this economically ravaged state perceived the comments as a rant against the tourism industry. The friction has resurfaced as Obama counts on Nevada's support for re-election next year. He's to visit a Las Vegas neighborhood Monday as part of a nationwide tour to sell his jobs plan. Former Nevada Gov. Bob List says Republicans plan to remind voters at every opportunity that Obama slammed the industry that employs most Nevadans. Story here. Say bye-bye to Nevada votes, Barack.:lol:
[QUOTE="scorch-62"]Oh wow, he wagged his presidential finger. Big whoop. This is the very definition of making mountains out of molehills. When all you got is molehills...
[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Give sensible advice, lose votes. Good stuff.topsemag55
Doesn't go over very well in a city that depends upon tourism to survive. Nevada has amongst the top unemployment in the nation. Well then they should fix that, you believe in state rights, right? Guess it's the states fault. Or hey blame the Businesses for not going there. Blame the banks for trashing the economy making people less willing to go out and gamble and party. You're blaming someone for giving sensible advice. If they're having money trouble then maybe they shouldn't be out throwing money at expensive strippers and escorts while gambling their extremely high CEO pay away. Don't hate the player, hate the game works for this situation. You guys go on and on about free market but when someone gives the free market advice it's the advice givers fault and not the one making the choice. The hypocrisy is amazing.
"Nevada state officials and residents alike are still fuming nearly two years after Obama discouraged corporations that received bailout money from holding lavish meetings in Las Vegas. Then last year, Obama said Americans saving for college shouldn't blow the cash in Sin City."
First people complain about how corporations waste bailout money on things like "lavish meetings in Las Vegas". Then they complain when the president advises corporations not to waste that money on lavish trips. Geez people are stupid :lol:
[QUOTE="scorch-62"]Oh wow, he wagged his presidential finger. Big whoop. This is the very definition of making mountains out of molehills.KC_Hokie
Tourism is Nevada's biggest industry. They also now have the highest unemployment rate in the entire country. Okay and? He didn't enforce anyone to do anything. He just made a sensible suggestion for a nation going through economic turmoil.
[QUOTE="topsemag55"] Doesn't go over very well in a city that depends upon tourism to survive. Nevada has amongst the top unemployment in the nation.KC_Hokie
You seem to be implying he should have given bad advice simply to bring in votes.
The president of the United States shouldn't attack any industry. It was stupid move on Obama's part and it will be used against him.
[QUOTE="topsemag55"] Doesn't go over very well in a city that depends upon tourism to survive. Nevada has amongst the top unemployment in the nation.KC_Hokie
You seem to be implying he should have given bad advice simply to bring in votes.
The president of the United States shouldn't attack any industry. It was stupid move on Obama's part and it will be used against him.
Reasonable advise is attacking an industry? :shock:
[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Give sensible advice, lose votes. Good stuff.topsemag55
Doesn't go over very well in a city that depends upon tourism to survive. Nevada has amongst the top unemployment in the nation. Maybe they need to retool their economy
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="scorch-62"]Oh wow, he wagged his presidential finger. Big whoop. This is the very definition of making mountains out of molehills.scorch-62
Tourism is Nevada's biggest industry. They also now have the highest unemployment rate in the entire country. Okay and? He didn't enforce anyone to do anything. He just made a sensible suggestion for a nation going through economic turmoil.It was bad publicity for Nevada at the worst time. They now have the highest unemployment rate in the country.
I don't live there but I think Obama is toast because of his comments.
[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]Give sensible advice, lose votes. Good stuff.xaos
Doesn't go over very well in a city that depends upon tourism to survive. Nevada has amongst the top unemployment in the nation. Maybe they need to retool their economy The market can never be found at fault. Only the government. Business makes a choice that affects the American people negatively? Blame the President.
[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]Give sensible advice, lose votes. Good stuff.xaos
Doesn't go over very well in a city that depends upon tourism to survive. Nevada has amongst the top unemployment in the nation. Maybe they need to retool their economy That might be hard to do - even their 7-11s have video poker machines, from what I've heard.:P
[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"] Tourism is Nevada's biggest industry. They also now have the highest unemployment rate in the entire country.KC_Hokie
Okay and? He didn't enforce anyone to do anything. He just made a sensible suggestion for a nation going through economic turmoil.It was bad publicity for Nevada at the worst time. They now have the highest unemployment rate in the country.
I don't live there but I think Obama is toast because of his comments.
Yes, that certainly seems like the most likely outcome. :|
[QUOTE="topsemag55"][QUOTE="Ace6301"]Give sensible advice, lose votes. Good stuff.xaos
Doesn't go over very well in a city that depends upon tourism to survive. Nevada has amongst the top unemployment in the nation. Maybe they need to retool their economyWhat are they going to make in Nevada that will be competitive with products from China or Mexico? There is no market for a new industry.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="topsemag55"] Doesn't go over very well in a city that depends upon tourism to survive. Nevada has amongst the top unemployment in the nation.KC_Hokie
Maybe they need to retool their economyWhat are they going to make in Nevada that will be competitive with products from China or Mexico? There is no market for a new industry. Well then they are not competitive; oh well, that's the market at work.
[QUOTE="scorch-62"] Okay and? He didn't enforce anyone to do anything. He just made a sensible suggestion for a nation going through economic turmoil.xaos
It was bad publicity for Nevada at the worst time. They now have the highest unemployment rate in the country.
I don't live there but I think Obama is toast because of his comments.
Yes, that certainly seems like the most likely outcome. :|Look at the 2008 Nevada map. Every county except two was red but Las Vegas made the state go blue. If 50%+1 in Las Vegas go for the GOP candidate Obama loses.
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]It was bad publicity for Nevada at the worst time. They now have the highest unemployment rate in the country.
I don't live there but I think Obama is toast because of his comments.
KC_Hokie
Yes, that certainly seems like the most likely outcome. :|Look at the 2008 Nevada map. Every county except two was red but Las Vegas made the state go blue. If 50%+1 in Las Vegas go for the GOP candidate Obama loses. Oh you mean losing Nevada; hardly what I'd call being toast
[QUOTE="xaos"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]It was bad publicity for Nevada at the worst time. They now have the highest unemployment rate in the country.
I don't live there but I think Obama is toast because of his comments.
KC_Hokie
Yes, that certainly seems like the most likely outcome. :|Look at the 2008 Nevada map. Every county except two was red but Las Vegas made the state go blue. If 50%+1 in Las Vegas go for the GOP candidate Obama loses. Maybe the dems will lose Nevada but you saying that would happen because of a tiny comment is hilarious.
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="xaos"] Yes, that certainly seems like the most likely outcome. :|xaos
Look at the 2008 Nevada map. Every county except two was red but Las Vegas made the state go blue. If 50%+1 in Las Vegas go for the GOP candidate Obama loses. Oh you mean losing Nevada; hardly what I'd call being toastHe's toast in Nevada. His comments will be used against him in Vegas.
I would even argue Obama is in major trouble nationally. Biden recently stated the GOP could win because of lack of results in one of his honest gaffs.
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="xaos"] Yes, that certainly seems like the most likely outcome. :|Ace6301
Look at the 2008 Nevada map. Every county except two was red but Las Vegas made the state go blue. If 50%+1 in Las Vegas go for the GOP candidate Obama loses. Maybe the dems will lose Nevada but you saying that would happen because of a tiny comment is hilarious. The president of united states publicly attacked their biggest industry several times. Nevada has the highest unemployment rate and foreclosure rates. It's enough to help Vegas from going blue to red.
Six states last election were decided by 3% or less. It won't take much for some of the blue states to switch.
So yes his colossally stupid remarks on anti-Vegas will probably cost him Nevada.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Look at the 2008 Nevada map. Every county except two was red but Las Vegas made the state go blue. If 50%+1 in Las Vegas go for the GOP candidate Obama loses. KC_Hokie
Maybe the dems will lose Nevada but you saying that would happen because of a tiny comment is hilarious. The president of united states publicly attacked their biggest industry several times. Nevada has the highest unemployment rate and foreclosure rates. It's enough to help Vegas from going blue to red.
Six states last election were decided by 3% or less. It won't take much for some of the blue states to switch.
So yes his colossally stupid remarks on anti-Vegas will probably cost him Nevada.
Lol you over blow the comment so much, I bet you no one voting even remembers it. You act as if he came out and said "Vegas is a place of great sin and evil, no one should go there". All he did was give a "stop living outside your means" statement as advice. If they took it then it's their fault.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"] Maybe the dems will lose Nevada but you saying that would happen because of a tiny comment is hilarious. Ace6301
The president of united states publicly attacked their biggest industry several times. Nevada has the highest unemployment rate and foreclosure rates. It's enough to help Vegas from going blue to red.
Six states last election were decided by 3% or less. It won't take much for some of the blue states to switch.
So yes his colossally stupid remarks on anti-Vegas will probably cost him Nevada.
Lol you over blow the comment so much, I bet you no one voting even remembers it. You act as if he came out and said "Vegas is a place of great sin and evil, no one should go there". All he did was give a "stop living outside your means" statement as advice. If they took it then it's their fault. He singled out a single city and their largest industry which is also the state's biggest industry. You can try to justify it all you want. I'm also not the unemployed guy from Las Vegas.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The president of united states publicly attacked their biggest industry several times. Nevada has the highest unemployment rate and foreclosure rates. It's enough to help Vegas from going blue to red.Six states last election were decided by 3% or less. It won't take much for some of the blue states to switch.So yes his colossally stupid remarks on anti-Vegas will probably cost him Nevada.KC_Hokie
Lol you over blow the comment so much, I bet you no one voting even remembers it. You act as if he came out and said "Vegas is a place of great sin and evil, no one should go there". All he did was give a "stop living outside your means" statement as advice. If they took it then it's their fault. He singled out a single city and their largest industry which is also the state's biggest industry. You can try to justify it all you want. I'm also not the unemployed guy from Las Vegas. As a libertarian you should be blaming Nevada for building a house of cards. Just a heads up.
[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Lol you over blow the comment so much, I bet you no one voting even remembers it. You act as if he came out and said "Vegas is a place of great sin and evil, no one should go there". All he did was give a "stop living outside your means" statement as advice. If they took it then it's their fault. Ace6301
He singled out a single city and their largest industry which is also the state's biggest industry. You can try to justify it all you want. I'm also not the unemployed guy from Las Vegas. As a libertarian you should be blaming Nevada for building a house of cards. Just a heads up.What does this have to do with me? Even Harry Reid was against Obama on this:
"The President needs to lay off Las Vegas and stop making it the poster child for where people shouldn't be spending their money," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat. "
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]He singled out a single city and their largest industry which is also the state's biggest industry. You can try to justify it all you want. I'm also not the unemployed guy from Las Vegas.KC_Hokie
As a libertarian you should be blaming Nevada for building a house of cards. Just a heads up.What does this have to do with me? Even Harry Reid was against Obama on this:
"The President needs to lay off Las Vegas and stop making it the poster child for where people shouldn't be spending their money," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, a Democrat. "
Better blame the companies that pulled their vacations from Vegas then. All I see is you trying to say this is Obama's fault when it's clearly not. If Nevada wants to blame Obama for this then maybe they should take a good hard look at who's actually to blame here. If they refuse to reelect Obama because of a harmless statement then that's hilariously petty.
So, Obama doesn't even want people enjoying themselves on vacation now......Mafiree
I thought he was saying more along the lines of "if you're saving for college and are having trouble paying for it, maybe you shouldn't spend a lot of money on partying and gambling"
Mind-blowing that's been spun into a negative thing.
So, Obama doesn't even want people enjoying themselves on vacation now......Mafiree
So should I assume, using your own logic, that you're for CEOs going on lavish extremely expensive meetings while giving their employees the shaft? Above posts analogy is more eloquent I think though. Spinning things into what people don't mean is fun.
So...Topsemeg55, let me get this straight. You support business executives, and bank owners using bail out money to hold parties in Las Vegas?UniverseIX
1 - it's not topsemeg.:P 2 - You should read the entire thread before posting assumptions or generalizations, as if you had read the thread you would have seen my post to DarkKnight where I said I only posted the article, basically because it popped-up on my ISP as a headline.:)
[QUOTE="Mafiree"]So, Obama doesn't even want people enjoying themselves on vacation now......JML897
I thought he was saying more along the lines of "if you're saving for college and are having trouble paying for it, maybe you shouldn't spend a lot of money on partying and gambling"
Mind-blowing that's been spun into a negative thing.
Vegas is a very cheap vacation if you want it to be......
[QUOTE="Mafiree"]So, Obama doesn't even want people enjoying themselves on vacation now......Ace6301
So should I assume, using your own logic, that you're for CEOs going on lavish extremely expensive meetings while giving their employees the shaft? Above posts analogy is more eloquent I think though. Spinning things into what people don't mean is fun. So, companies are evil profit maximizes except in this case? If the conventions were useless and unnecessary (meaning they were losing the company money) I am sure the CEOs and upper management would rather have that in their pocket then have to waste money on a convention hall.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Mafiree"]So, Obama doesn't even want people enjoying themselves on vacation now......Mafiree
So should I assume, using your own logic, that you're for CEOs going on lavish extremely expensive meetings while giving their employees the shaft? Above posts analogy is more eloquent I think though. Spinning things into what people don't mean is fun. So, companies are evil profit maximizes except in this case? If the conventions were useless and unnecessary (meaning they were losing the company money) I am sure the CEOs and upper management would rather have that in their pocket then have to waste money on a convention hall. Ahahaha, that's funny. Yeah I'm sure those CEOs and managers won't going on wasteful "meetings" and partying in Vegas. Oh hey wait why would Vegas be mad about losing their business then? Man that damn reality getting in the way of rhetoric.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] So should I assume, using your own logic, that you're for CEOs going on lavish extremely expensive meetings while giving their employees the shaft? Above posts analogy is more eloquent I think though. Spinning things into what people don't mean is fun. So, companies are evil profit maximizes except in this case? If the conventions were useless and unnecessary (meaning they were losing the company money) I am sure the CEOs and upper management would rather have that in their pocket then have to waste money on a convention hall. Ahahaha, that's funny. Yeah I'm sure those CEOs and managers won't going on wasteful "meetings" and partying in Vegas. Oh hey wait why would Vegas be mad about losing their business then? Man that damn reality getting in the way of rhetoric. I don't completely understand what you are attempting to say here..... But, Vegas profits whether the meeting generates the company $10 million or $0.
[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Mafiree"] So, companies are evil profit maximizes except in this case? If the conventions were useless and unnecessary (meaning they were losing the company money) I am sure the CEOs and upper management would rather have that in their pocket then have to waste money on a convention hall. Ahahaha, that's funny. Yeah I'm sure those CEOs and managers won't going on wasteful "meetings" and partying in Vegas. Oh hey wait why would Vegas be mad about losing their business then? Man that damn reality getting in the way of rhetoric. I don't completely understand what you are attempting to say here..... But, Vegas profits whether the meeting generates the company $10 million or $0. What do you think of businesses spending tax payer money on expensive escorts and gambling? What do you think of people living outside their means?
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] Ahahaha, that's funny. Yeah I'm sure those CEOs and managers won't going on wasteful "meetings" and partying in Vegas. Oh hey wait why would Vegas be mad about losing their business then? Man that damn reality getting in the way of rhetoric. I don't completely understand what you are attempting to say here..... But, Vegas profits whether the meeting generates the company $10 million or $0. What do you think of businesses spending tax payer money on expensive escorts and gambling? What do you think of people living outside their means? The first question was answered in my original post....... The second question I don't see how it is relevant.
[QUOTE="Mafiree"][QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Mafiree"] I don't completely understand what you are attempting to say here..... But, Vegas profits whether the meeting generates the company $10 million or $0. What do you think of businesses spending tax payer money on expensive escorts and gambling? What do you think of people living outside their means? The first question was answered in my original post....... The second question I don't see how it is relevant. So answer to the first question is yes then? That's really the only answer I could get out of your first post which was just spin about Obama hating vacations or some such. Not going to answer? It's a "gotcha" question, isn't it?
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