neither, hes a douche. If he wanted to anonymously leak info, he could have and achieved the same result. He wanted the spotlight and infamy. Hes not a patriot, because he clearly wasnt doing it selflessly, but hes not a traitor because the american people had a right to know.
The nsa should monitor people, too many terrorists
People should know the nsa is monitoring people
let him go, and keep on monitoring and this from a european
The NSA can monitor a person if they have reason to believe that said person will/is going to perform terrorist attacks or help others to do so. However monitoring just for the sake of monitoring is wrong in my opinion.
The nsa should monitor people, too many terrorists
People should know the nsa is monitoring people
let him go, and keep on monitoring and this from a european
The NSA can monitor a person if they have reason to believe that said person will/is going to perform terrorist attacks or help others to do so. However monitoring just for the sake of monitoring is wrong in my opinion.
you don't always know beforehand who's a terrorist and who's not, i say, let them do their jobs
Yes, I'm aware some of you will say that the American people had a right to know and claim the programs violated the Fourth Amendment. In all honesty, people blew what the NSA was doing way out of proportion and there is no way they could have monitored the billions of phone calls and emails that are transmitted daily with the staff they had.
But let's pretend for a minute that Snowden was 100% justified for leaking the NSA programs that covered domestic surveillance. Even if he was, that doesn't justify him leaking our ability to monitor foreign nations and terrorists abroad.
If he only leaked info about the domestic programs Snowden could have argued that he had a duty to leak them because they violated the Fourth Amendment in his trial in hopes of a sympathetic jury agreeing with him. However, foreigners outside of the US aren't covered by our Constitution, so he doesn't have a leg to stand on for leaking info about the foreign programs.
If you work in intell and find that something isn't right...you use the chain of command. You do NOT broadcast for the media or foreign nations....which by the way do the same thing. Second....you really have no expectation of privacy with the internet nor with air waves....ie cell phones. Back in the day cordless phones also allowed anyone tuned in to hear your conversations. Well cordless phones still exist....but cell phones are more common.
And NSA really doesn't have the man power to monitor everything everyone does. They have key words that send an alert.
What I like is that it was pretty much all in The Bourne Ultimatum before the leaks.
I think the work the intelligence serves do is necessary though and they're not actually listening to any random persons conversations or anything else like that. I doubt there is even a human element in it until someone gets flagged for being involved in multiple suspect acts.
If there was another major terrorist attack the public would be the first to ask what more could have been done to prevent it and they have after previous attacks.
EDIT: I guess I have to say traitor then even if he was doing it with good intentions.
He did some extraordinarily good and then he crapped the bed. Come home Mr. Snowden, face the music.
See I don't get the duality of saying "You done good, now take your punishment like a man." We shouldn't strive for a society where we discourage people from doing the right thing.
He did some extraordinarily good and then he crapped the bed. Come home Mr. Snowden, face the music.
See I don't get the duality of saying "You done good, now take your punishment like a man." We shouldn't strive for a society where we discourage people from doing the right thing.
He shouldn't had revealed the spying program on other countries/heads of state, he got too cute by half.
The nsa should monitor people, too many terrorists
There actually aren't. Terrorists are less of a threat to you and I than car crashes and bug bites. The whole thing is manipulation, psychological manipulation utilizing neurolinguistic programming. If you think terrorists are a threat to your personal safety you have been scientifically programmed.
You can only be both or neither. You cannot be a genuine American patriot without being an absolute traitor to the American ruling class. No sane or educated person can say that the murderous Orwellian U.S. government is anything close to what the founding fathers had in mind. The U.S. government is the number one enemy of the world, including the American people. Snowden is not only a patriot, but an international hero.
I trust him over Obama, or any of these politicians really. So Im going with Patriot.
The only people who label him a traitor are these Americans **** yeah Bro Dudes who have the mentality that the US has to be the ultimate power and authority and that the US has the right to rape and bomb anything and anywhere they see fit cuz Jesus is American, everyone else in the world are backwards haters, and American is the garden of Eden.
neither, hes a douche. If he wanted to anonymously leak info, he could have and achieved the same result. He wanted the spotlight and infamy. Hes not a patriot, because he clearly wasnt doing it selflessly, but hes not a traitor because the american people had a right to know.
Bazzinga. Nailed it. He's just a self important little turd.
If you work in intell and find that something isn't right...you use the chain of command. You do NOT broadcast for the media or foreign nations....which by the way do the same thing. Second....you really have no expectation of privacy with the internet nor with air waves....ie cell phones. Back in the day cordless phones also allowed anyone tuned in to hear your conversations. Well cordless phones still exist....but cell phones are more common.
And NSA really doesn't have the man power to monitor everything everyone does. They have key words that send an alert.
What about phones with cords, are they more secure?
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