So Christians, What's Your Rationale In Your Belief Of God?

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#51 battlefront23
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I'll break it down for you. ;)

1. There are only two logical ways the universe came to be; either it has always existed or some higher power created it. I find that since the universe is bound by scientific laws, it seems illogical that it would have to break its own laws to exist. Simply put, the idea that the universe has always existed doesn't make sense to me because that would mean that energy has always existed in our universe.

2. Miracles. Science can't and never will be able to explain them. I would give examples, but an Atheist who's smarter than I am would probably refute them. :P I just think that the fact that things happen that aren't logical or explainable means that something above the comprehension or power of man has to be at work making them happen. How else would a miracle work anyway?

3. I've experienced Him. Though not as often as I would like, I have felt Him working in my life and in those around me. Kind of correlation to miracles, some people I've come to know have changed their lives dramatically through God intervening in their life. I have no real way to prove this, and it is one of things you have to experience to believe.

Those are my two cents. These points will probably be refuted, but hopefully this will help some.

:)

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#52 Nagru
Member since 2006 • 1956 Posts

Another user posted a good list quite a while ago, so I'll just quite him:

Lets see.
Miracles and unexplained phenomena (Including Jesus' resurrection)
The fact that the universe exists rather than not
The aparrent design found in biology and the world around us
Fulfilled prophecies
The afterlife
Authority
Fear
Upbringing
Religious texts
Changed lives
Morality

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#53 Darthmatt
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The tittle of this topic is at odds with itself. I'll put this bluntly, belief is not a rational concept.

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#54 gubrushadow
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I'll break it down for you. ;)

1. There are only two logical ways the universe came to be; either it has always existed or some higher power created it. I find that since the universe is bound by scientific laws, it seems illogical that it would have to break its own laws to exist. Simply put, the idea that the universe has always existed doesn't make sense to me because that would mean that energy has always existed in our universe.

2. Miracles. Science can't and never will be able to explain them. I would give examples, but an Atheist who's smarter than I am woul probably refute them. :P I just think that the fact that things happening that aren't logical are explainable means that something has to be at work making them happen. How else would a miracle work anyway?

3. I've experienced Him. Though not as often as I would like, I have felt Him working in my life and in those around me. Kind of correlation to miracles, some people I've come to know have changed their lives dramatically through God intervening in their life. I have no real way to prove this, and it is one of things you have to experience to believe.

Those are my two cents. These points will probably be refuted, but hopefully this will help some.

:)

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dude you forgot to mention who do you pray in your un-solved problems :P like drawning :P
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#55 JediXMan
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[QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

[QUOTE="Democratik"] man has split them.BumFluff122

Man. I never said they didn't exist. :roll:

No. You said atoms are a hypothesis. We've seen atoms. Therefor they are not a hypothesis.

Actually, we haven't. I repeat my earlier post:

"They are the result of hypotheses. Electron microscopes don't produce an optical image. Instead they send charged probes across a surface and measure slight changes electronically that flow through the probe. It sends the information into a computer which uses a complex set of mathematics called "quantum mechanics" to calulate what the surface should look like. The computer graphs the results of that calulation, and you get an electronic image. Again, it is the result of mathematics that, while correct, are still not physical."

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#56 ghoklebutter
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I believe in God because...I just do. Its hard to provide a real rationale for it. I am aware how intangible and unverifiable my beliefs are, but I believe. Now, I am not a fundie. I grew up in a church, went through some things, and at one point I honestly hated God and doubted his existence. However, at some point I just came back on my own due to some type of weird compelling force. Its hard to explain on my end, and I will not give any of that BS most people say. I honestly have no idea if I have ever witnessed God work a miracle or if some awesome **** just randomly happened. My beliefs just make me feel good.clayron

I'm with Clayron here. I can't explain my rationale either.

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#57 Birdy09
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[QUOTE="Democratik"][QUOTE="comp_atkins"] atoms exist. man has seen them.JediXMan7

man has split them.

Man. I never said they didn't exist. :roll:

Correct, you said we hadnt seen them though when there are imaging techniques that make it possible. Ive never seen a superman in the clouds making miracles though.
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#58 Gambler_3
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Christianity and rationality are mutally exclusive just like any other religion.

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#59 JediXMan
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[QUOTE="JediXMan7"]

[QUOTE="Democratik"] man has split them.Birdy09

Man. I never said they didn't exist. :roll:

Correct, you said we hadnt seen them though when there are imaging techniques that make it possible. Ive never seen a superman in the clouds making miracles though.

Please read my above post. We cannot see atoms, and I gave my reasoning above. Electron microscopes cannot take an optical image of an atom.

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#60 JodyR
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First off, let me get this straight: I am not trying to prove anyone wrong by going into some big debate with you guys. I do this only for research purposes. I'm merely wondering what you guys believe backs up your theory of god. That is all.

gamesock

Please consider creating a topic that does not have a generalization of the term Christian belief. Not every Christian believes the same because there are too many types of beliefs to discuss for your research purposes.

Since majority of the peeps posted in here saying that there was already a thread like this one, see if that thread is currently open and post in it. You may also re-word your post to create another thread and determine what kind of Christian beliefs are trying to research. Orthodox? Babtist? Catholic? Lutheran, Non-denominational, etc.

Thanks for your understanding.