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#1 samanthademeste
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If anyone here remember's 2004, could you please tell me if this is true or not? thank you!

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#2 kitty  Moderator
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Gamespot was better back then, had alot of good users then, they either got banned or moved on now.
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#3 Jinroh_basic
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GS had Kasavin back then, and he alone made this place better.

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#4 LJS9502_basic
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I think it was better. It's been going down hill for the last few years. Too many banned trolls that keep coming back with alt accounts that amuse only a minority of users here.
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#5 derekjeter2005
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I wasn't on the forums in 2004, but I've been coming to this site since around 2000/2001 and I think '04 was a boring year for games so it was nothing special.
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#6 Lonelynight
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I wasn't on the forums in 2004, but I've been coming to this site since around 2000/2001 and I think '04 was a boring year for games so it was nothing special. derekjeter2005
Half Life2? Far Cry? Doom 3?
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#7 comp_atkins
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people who have been around will say it was better back then. 5 years from now people will say 2010 was when gs was cool and now it sucks.
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[QUOTE="derekjeter2005"]I wasn't on the forums in 2004, but I've been coming to this site since around 2000/2001 and I think '04 was a boring year for games so it was nothing special. Lonelynight
Half Life2? Far Cry? Doom 3?

They suck. I'm an RPG, Sports Game, Action/Adventure, Platformer kinda dude.
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#9 Orlando_Magic
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The forums aren't too bad now (I think they've been improving as of late) but they were more lenient back then. Dave Toole was the community manager in those days.

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#10 campzor
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trolls put far more effort and thought into their schemes...now they are predictable and/or bail on their threads when they fail instead of continuing to troll us all.... those were the days...
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#11 Lonelynight
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The forums aren't too bad now (I think they've been improving as of late) but they were more lenient back then. Dave Toole was the community manager in those days.

Orlando_Magic
Why are all the old members all lurkers now?
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#12 MattDistillery
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[QUOTE="Orlando_Magic"]

The forums aren't too bad now (I think they've been improving as of late) but they were more lenient back then. Dave Toole was the community manager in those days.

Lonelynight

Why are all the old members all lurkers now?

Most of the sensible posters now are lurkers too because of the massive amount of troll topics and fact anything sensible gets ignored and lost in threads with trolls posts being quoted and commented on far more by agrieved fanboys/fangirls for page upon page.

I had toget a new account at the begining of the year because I got hacked and all my info changed but I've been here sinceJune 21st 07as muff07 and the boards had alot ore intresting topics and posters than they do now.

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#13 Omni-Slash
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If by worse you mean far superior....yes...it was much worse.....
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people who have been around will say it was better back then. 5 years from now people will say 2010 was when gs was cool and now it sucks. comp_atkins
If I'm still here 5 years from now.....I can guarantee I won't say that. And if it keeps up this way....I know I won't be here 5 years from now.
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#15 JML897
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ITT: People looking at the past through rose-colored glasses
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people who have been around will say it was better back then. 5 years from now people will say 2010 was when gs was cool and now it sucks. comp_atkins
This. Hindsight isn't 20/20, it's rather rose-tinted.
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Probably the same as now in a general quality sense /opinion minus the nostalgia goggles
And if it keeps up this way....I know I won't be here 5 years from now.LJS9502_basic
If there was literally only one thing in the entire English vocabulary you could say that was entirely contradictory to what you (in specific to this situation) wanted, that was it.
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#18 ssj4_2004
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It was a lot worse. Too many trolls.
I think we got rid of 'em all, though.

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#19 deactivated-5cacc9e03b460
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I really only posted in unions back when I started my account in 05. they seem about the same.

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#20 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="SeraphimGoddess"]Probably the same as now in a general quality sense /opinion minus the nostalgia goggles
And if it keeps up this way....I know I won't be here 5 years from now.LJS9502_basic
If there was literally only one thing in the entire English vocabulary you could say that was entirely contradictory to what you (in specific to this situation) wanted, that was it.

Would you like a different vocabulary?:P I don't see the contradiction. I have been posting here less and less. I still stop in....but if OT continues the way it has...that will eventually stop. Anyway...it's not nostalgia. All we have here lately is banned trolls coming back to troll while a select group encourages them. Most debate threads turn into flaming....there really isn't anyone that can debate like those in the past. Now it's either accidental or intentional misrepresentation of posts. I haven't decided which yet. Or it's people finding someone posting their opinion to be a good debater. Which isn't what debate is either. That's what I miss most. The debate threads where people debated ideas with substance and not what we get today. Perhaps we look for different things here.:(
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#21 MichaeltheCM
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i wasnt here till 2006, but even then it was a lot better
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#22 comp_atkins
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[QUOTE="comp_atkins"]people who have been around will say it was better back then. 5 years from now people will say 2010 was when gs was cool and now it sucks. LJS9502_basic
If I'm still here 5 years from now.....I can guarantee I won't say that. And if it keeps up this way....I know I won't be here 5 years from now.

those that don't leave will be saying it.
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#23 cd_rom
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Was that the days of Lithium? I enjoyed it more, albeit I didn't post nearly as much, but that was because lurking was suitable.
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#24 lightleggy
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If anyone here remember's 2004, could you please tell me if this is true or not? thank you!

samanthademeste
you should have been here in 2006, gamespot was the war of the internet trolls
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#25 samanthademeste
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[QUOTE="samanthademeste"]

If anyone here remember's 2004, could you please tell me if this is true or not? thank you!

lightleggy

you should have been here in 2006, gamespot was the war of the internet trolls

Similar to Gametrailers fourm? I would not want to see that.

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#26 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="samanthademeste"]

If anyone here remember's 2004, could you please tell me if this is true or not? thank you!

lightleggy
you should have been here in 2006, gamespot was the war of the internet trolls

Eh I think there have more trolls the last two years than any prior.
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#27 FragStains
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I was just warming up back then, so yes. Yes it was.
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Would you like a different vocabulary?:P I don't see the contradiction.

There are people here you don't like. Some of those people really don't like you. So essentially saying "If they keep doing what they are doing, I'm going to ragequit" is only going to further entice them and solidify their cause (to some extent, I imagine), which I would hope is the opposite of what you would want them to do.
Perhaps we look for different things here.:(LJS9502_basic
Subjective and all that.
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#29 ssj4_2004
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Subjective and all that.SeraphimGoddess

Looks like you really want him to stay... firing up a debate 'n all that.

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#30 Omni-Slash
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Eh I think there have more trolls the last two years than any prior.LJS9502_basic
I agree with this statement...there are definitely more trolls in here recently.....
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#31 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"][QUOTE="samanthademeste"]

If anyone here remember's 2004, could you please tell me if this is true or not? thank you!

samanthademeste

you should have been here in 2006, gamespot was the war of the internet trolls

Similar to Gametrailers fourm? I would not want to see that.

you couldnt enter system wars without being escorted by 20 mods back then
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#32 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Would you like a different vocabulary?:P I don't see the contradiction.SeraphimGoddess
There are people here you don't like. Some of those people really don't like you. So essentially saying "If they keep doing what they are doing, I'm going to ragequit" is only going to further entice them and solidify their cause (to some extent, I imagine), which I would hope is the opposite of what you would want them to do.

There are people here that I don't like having discussions with because they don't do it respectfully. Nor do they stay on topic. Nonetheless, I'm more apathetic to those individuals. They just aren't fun. I have no personal feelings toward them. I do like some people here. But that is because they are good users and one can have conversations with them. And no....I don't always agree with them either. That someone on a forum doesn't like me is not of import to me. Though TBH....it means I've made an impression on them.:lol:

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#33 lightleggy
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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Eh I think there have more trolls the last two years than any prior.Omni-Slash
I agree with this statement...there are definitely more trolls in here recently.....

maybe, but system wars...man...satan dwelled there in 2006... and there were a bunch more of trolls average in OT...we just get loads of trolls when there is an event or something like that
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#34 Omni-Slash
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maybe, but system wars...man...satan dwelled there in 2006... and there were a bunch more of trolls average in OT...we just get loads of trolls when there is an event or something like thatlightleggy
SW has always been the home of satan....how can you have a discussion with people that believe that a one machine is inhearently better then the other...especially when it all comes down to the games built for said machines.....
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#35 deactivated-6016e81e8e30f
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Looks like you really want him to stay... firing up a debate 'n all that.

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I'm tired; I don't know what the f*** I'm doing. Casual, hopefully neutral conversation for now.
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#36 ThePerro
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I've been going on this site for a long time, but never touched the forums until maybe three years ago

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#37 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="ssj4_2004"]

Looks like you really want him to stay... firing up a debate 'n all that.

SeraphimGoddess
I'm tired; I don't know what the *** I'm doing. Casual, hopefully neutral conversation for now.

So does that mean you want me to leave?:(
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I'm tired; I don't know what the f*** I'm doing. Casual, hopefully neutral conversation for now.SeraphimGoddess
meh...just kick him in the E-Junk and get the fight going already....it's 11:19am and I have yet to see an interwebs throwdown today.....:twisted: :
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#39 weezyfb
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i lurked back then with another account i have since forgotten. I used to come here for reviews and cheats mostly.
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#40 Colin1192
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was not here in 04, so I have no idea

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[QUOTE="Lonelynight"][QUOTE="derekjeter2005"]I wasn't on the forums in 2004, but I've been coming to this site since around 2000/2001 and I think '04 was a boring year for games so it was nothing special. derekjeter2005
Half Life2? Far Cry? Doom 3?

They suck. I'm an RPG, Sports Game, Action/Adventure, Platformer kinda dude.

:o A boring year for games? Nothing special?

Burnout 3: Takedown. 9.5/10 at Gamespot. 10/10 Official Ps2 Magazine.

Fable. 8.6/10 at Gamespot.

Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater. 8.7/10 at Gamespot.

Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow.

Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas.

Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door.

Onimusha 3.

Baldur's Gate II: Dark Alliance. 8/10 at Gamespot.

Gran Turismo 4. 8.9/10 at Gamespot.

Killzone.

Metroid Prime 2: Echoes.

Halo 2.

Mortal Kombat: Deception. 8.5/10 at Gamespot.

Need For Speed Underground 2.

Full Spectrum Warrior. 7.7/10 at Gamespot.

Star Wars: Battlefront.

Alien Hominid. 8.4/10 at Gamespot.

Ninja Gaiden.

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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]maybe, but system wars...man...satan dwelled there in 2006... and there were a bunch more of trolls average in OT...we just get loads of trolls when there is an event or something like thatOmni-Slash
SW has always been the home of satan....how can you have a discussion with people that believe that a one machine is inhearently better then the other...especially when it all comes down to the games built for said machines.....

how can you even compare the SW we had 5+ years ago with the one with have now? the one we have now is kittens playground compared to what that place used to be, you made a thread, about anything, you refreshed and you had like 3 pages of pure insults, flaming, trolling, everything, then someone trolled back, then someone did the same...about 90% of the threads were locked and there was like 5 daily bans in that place, it was nothing compared to what it is now

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#43 LJS9502_basic
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how can you even compare the SW we had 5+ years ago with the one with have now? the one we have now is kittens playground compared to what that place used to be, you made a thread, about anything, you refreshed and you had like 3 pages of pure insults, flaming, trolling, everything, then someone trolled back, then someone did the same...about 90% of the threads were locked and there was like 5 daily bans in that place, it was nothing compared to what it is now

lightleggy

I used to post in SW. Wasn't that bad back then.

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#44 Omni-Slash
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how can you even compare the SW we had 5+ years ago with the one with have now? the one we have now is kittens playground compared to what that place used to be, you made a thread, about anything, you refreshed and you had like 3 pages of pure insults, flaming, trolling, everything, then someone trolled back, then someone did the same...about 90% of the threads were locked and there was like 5 daily bans in that place, it was nothing compared to what it is now

lightleggy
but what I'm saying is that you're compairing apples to oranges.....the trolls here are older for the msot part...they don't trust throw out insults and swear..but that doesn't make them any less of a troll....SWs has always been a sespool...is it better now?..of course....but SW used to be that bad and worse 10 years ago... during that time OT had it's characters sure....but it wasn't the trolling mess it's becoming now....
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#45 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="lightleggy"]

how can you even compare the SW we had 5+ years ago with the one with have now? the one we have now is kittens playground compared to what that place used to be, you made a thread, about anything, you refreshed and you had like 3 pages of pure insults, flaming, trolling, everything, then someone trolled back, then someone did the same...about 90% of the threads were locked and there was like 5 daily bans in that place, it was nothing compared to what it is now

Omni-Slash
but what I'm saying is that you're compairing apples to oranges.....the trolls here are older for the msot part...they don't trust throw out insults and swear..but that doesn't make them any less of a troll....SWs has always been a sespool...is it better now?..of course....but SW used to be that bad and worse 10 years ago... during that time OT had it's characters sure....but it wasn't the trolling mess it's becoming now....

Exactly right. One of the problems is the encouragement trolls get. No encouragment....trolls go down in numbers.
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Well, I wasnt here in 2004 but if I compared how I felt when I started posting here and how I feel now, I would say I enjoy it less because obviously my prespective has changed.

I now realise who are the actual trolls, notice the trends going on among several users and so on.

But other than that it hasnt changed much, since at the very least too few bad users have left (either on their own, or have been banned).

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There are people here that I don't like having discussions with because they don't do it respectfully. Nor do they stay on topic. Nonetheless, I'm more apathetic to those individuals. They just aren't fun. I have no personal feelings toward them. I do like some people here. But that is because they are good users and one can have conversations with them. And no....I don't always agree with them either.LJS9502_basic
Fair enough, I suppose.
That someone on a forum doesn't like me is not of import to me.You
I honestly don't get that impression from the times I've seen you talk to and oblige those who (openly or near-openly) don't like you in discussions about the topic.
Though TBH....it means I've made an impression on them.:lol:You
Also, wanted to say that someone who enjoys the reactions they get from a posting style those who are reacting would call troll-ish in nature is, well, further propagating the idea that you are a troll (in their eyes)
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#48 LJS9502_basic
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Fair enough, I suppose. [QUOTE="You"]That someone on a forum doesn't like me is not of import to me.SeraphimGoddess
I honestly don't get that impression from the times I've seen you talk to and oblige those who (openly or near-openly) don't like you in discussions about the topic.
Though TBH....it means I've made an impression on them.:lol:You
Also, wanted to say that someone who enjoys the reactions they get from a posting style those who are reacting would call troll-ish in nature is, well, further propagating the idea that you are a troll (in their eyes)

But I do stick to the topic. If it makes them angry...then so be it. If one can't deal with differing personalities/opinions....I'd suggest the internet is not the place for them. At the end of the day....you will still have your opinion. I will still have mine and we should be able to go on with life. If I've gotten under skin so much that your life's quest is trolling me....then that says more of you than of me. You is generic. Not directed at you specific.

Eh...I don't tell them to react. I just find it funny is all. It's like any comedy show. It makes us laugh. I'd find myself pathetic if I let it bother me TBH. Not being bothered =/= troll. They are responsible for their own actions/feelings. Not me.

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Exactly right. One of the problems is the encouragement trolls get. No encouragment....trolls go down in numbers.LJS9502_basic

I don't recall seeing any encouragement on gamespot...

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] Exactly right. One of the problems is the encouragement trolls get. No encouragment....trolls go down in numbers.ssj4_2004


I don't recall seeing any encouragement on gamespot...

It's there....